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odyssey2200

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18,650 posts

238 months

Friday 30th January 2009
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scotal

8,751 posts

308 months

Friday 30th January 2009
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My house was built in 1906, it has 9inch brickwork, not cavity walls. By definition it is inefficient. What am I meant to do? Stone clad it?

wkers.

off_again

13,917 posts

263 months

Friday 30th January 2009
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Or of course, there is another way to look at this.

Could it be your local council providing you with some information and evidence that will allow you to save money, target insulation and heat loss. Ultimately it helps to save energy and reduces overall use - so it even keeps the greenies happy.

So the problem is?

[devils advocate mode=off]

hehe

cj_eds

1,567 posts

250 months

Friday 30th January 2009
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And I assume that these thermal cameras will be driven around in vehicles powered by anything other than an oil-based globally warming fuel...
Crawling through the neighbourhoods of Britain taking a photo of every house. I can't think of a better way of saving energy. rolleyes

odyssey2200

Original Poster:

18,650 posts

238 months

Friday 30th January 2009
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I predict that your thermal efficiency will, in some way be linked to your council tax banding.

If you have an in efficient home and are forcing Polar bears to sell the Big Issue you can expect a bigger bill.

Dracoro

9,023 posts

274 months

Friday 30th January 2009
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Forget environmental issues for the moment, this would be useful as it could tell you where you are losing energy and thus MONEY. Your house would keep warmer more easily and cheaply. Weigh up the cost of insulation against energy savings and decide whether or not to go for it.

Some people are just anti-"environment" just for the sake of it rolleyes If they were *forcing* homeowners to get insulation (or punishing them for it) then fair enough, you have a complaint but as I see it, that's not what this is about.....

odyssey2200

Original Poster:

18,650 posts

238 months

Friday 30th January 2009
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Dracoro said:
Forget environmental issues for the moment, this would be useful as it could tell you where you are losing energy and thus MONEY. Your house would keep warmer more easily and cheaply. Weigh up the cost of insulation against energy savings and decide whether or not to go for it.

Some people are just anti-"environment" just for the sake of it rolleyes If they were *forcing* homeowners to get insulation (or punishing them for it) then fair enough, you have a complaint but as I see it, that's not what this is about.....
ahh!

The Naivety of it!







Edited by odyssey2200 on Friday 30th January 09:32

NDA

25,557 posts

254 months

Friday 30th January 2009
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off_again said:
Or of course, there is another way to look at this.

Could it be your local council providing you with some information and evidence that will allow you to save money, target insulation and heat loss. Ultimately it helps to save energy and reduces overall use - so it even keeps the greenies happy.

So the problem is?
Oh you sweet, thoughtful, kind and gentle creature....

But, alas, tis another way to extract cash out of us. 'Your house shows up orange - pay more - it's the rules'.

Scuffers

20,887 posts

303 months

Friday 30th January 2009
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odyssey2200 said:
I predict that your thermal efficiency will, in some way be linked to your council tax banding.

If you have an in efficient home and are forcing Polar bears to sell the Big Issue you can expect a bigger bill.
No st...

Anybody that can't see this comming is really living in la-la land...

I can just imagine how this will hit people like me who live in 400+ year old stone houses (that are listed), ie. no cavity's to fill, and no, your not alowed to change the look of the place....

odyssey2200

Original Poster:

18,650 posts

238 months

Friday 30th January 2009
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Scuffers said:
odyssey2200 said:
I predict that your thermal efficiency will, in some way be linked to your council tax banding.

If you have an in efficient home and are forcing Polar bears to sell the Big Issue you can expect a bigger bill.
No st...

Anybody that can't see this comming is really living in la-la land...

I can just imagine how this will hit people like me who live in 400+ year old stone houses (that are listed), ie. no cavity's to fill, and no, your not alowed to change the look of the place....
they will love you

££££££££ Jackpot!

Kaelic

2,720 posts

230 months

Friday 30th January 2009
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Ahh another way to skank money off us in the long term....

Makes you wonder really where all this money we pay in taxes and "charges" actually goes

So wish I could buy my own island and feck the lot of them..

odyssey2200

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18,650 posts

238 months

Friday 30th January 2009
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news story said:
the scheme, which is operated by the company Heatseekers.
KERCHING!!

Queations

(a)how much is he charging to do this
and
(b)who is paying for it?

Answers

(a)Loads
(b)You

here is their website

http://www.homeheatseekers.co.uk/


ETA

Fron their FAQ

Who will carry out the installation?
Heatseekers have teamed up with contractors who only offer the highest customer care and quality of service. Our approved installers will be in touch with you directly when an installation date has been agreed.





Edited by odyssey2200 on Friday 30th January 09:54

Maxf

8,443 posts

270 months

Friday 30th January 2009
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The energy rating of property WILL be linked into the council tax and business rates payable.

As with road tax, more people will see an increase than a decrease - if they don't then the goalposts will move.

Property taxes are to pay for services. If I don't insulate my roof then how am I using more services?

aclivity

4,072 posts

217 months

Friday 30th January 2009
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Not being naive in the slightest here, but if this was offered as a service to me at a reasonable cost, I would probably have taken it up. Lets say they charge £20 for a thermal picture of my house, and it shows that I'm losing most heat from the extension roof - as opposed to my gut feel that the front door is poorly manufactured. I would then be able to make the most difference to my heating bills by using accurate information.

It's JUST because the councils are paying someone to do it, the chorus is up in arms.

I'm not really much of a global warming believer, however I do see saving fuel (and hence, money) as not necessarily a bad thing.

911motorsport

7,251 posts

262 months

Friday 30th January 2009
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That's it, I'm erecting a false house front for them to photgraph! It'll be so 'non heat emitting' I'll probably get a big discount and an award.

Simpo Two

92,670 posts

294 months

Friday 30th January 2009
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Google is photographing everyone's house anyway; they could stick a thermal camera on that van and save millions.

kambites

71,429 posts

250 months

Friday 30th January 2009
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On the face of it, it sounds good to me. Means someone else tells me how I can most effectively cut my heating bills without me having to work out where I'm losing the heat myself.

Having said that, my house is set back so that it's not visible from the road anyway.

jmorgan

36,010 posts

313 months

Friday 30th January 2009
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They should snap shot the politicos dwellings first. Post the results up.

andy43

13,122 posts

283 months

Friday 30th January 2009
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Maxf said:
The energy rating of property WILL be linked into the council tax and business rates payable.
yes


ashes

628 posts

283 months

Friday 30th January 2009
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Any van creeping down my farm track trying to get photos will get the hounds set on them!

Yes and my 1826 cottage has no wall insulation - just 2 foot thick walls!


No there is no end to this nonsense...