Plane on a conveyor belt in a wind tunnel
Plane on a conveyor belt in a wind tunnel
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AJS-

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15,366 posts

265 months

Saturday 31st January 2009
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Would it take off while stationary if the wind tunnel wasblowing from the front at the same speed as the conveyor belt was running backwards and the plane trying to go forwards at enough speed to take off?

Silent_Assassin

181 posts

213 months

Saturday 31st January 2009
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Ahem.... I'll just wait here and watch out this pans out... coffee

GTO Scott

3,816 posts

253 months

Saturday 31st January 2009
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Oh christ not another one.... hehe

Yes.

sidekickdmr

5,209 posts

235 months

Saturday 31st January 2009
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plane + conveyer belt= no

Plane + conveyer belt + wind tunnel = yes

Snake the Sniper

2,544 posts

230 months

Saturday 31st January 2009
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Here we go again......

AJS-

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15,366 posts

265 months

Saturday 31st January 2009
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Actually, what if the plane was switched off, but got sufficient lift from the wind tunnel to take off, while moving backwards on the conveyor belt?

RDE

5,037 posts

243 months

Saturday 31st January 2009
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AJS- said:
Actually, what if the plane was switched off, but got sufficient lift from the wind tunnel to take off, while moving backwards on the conveyor belt?
It would take off. And then decelerate, descend and be driven into the back of the wind tunnel by the belt. What do you mean by 'switched off'?

ShadownINja

79,992 posts

311 months

Saturday 31st January 2009
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What if the wind tunnel was mounted in reverse on the back of a large lorry driving at a speed equivalent to the wind in the tunnel?

Owain

1,632 posts

226 months

Saturday 31st January 2009
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What if the conveyor belt was run by a motorised hamster wheel?

AJS-

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265 months

Saturday 31st January 2009
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RDE said:
AJS- said:
Actually, what if the plane was switched off, but got sufficient lift from the wind tunnel to take off, while moving backwards on the conveyor belt?
It would take off. And then decelerate, descend and be driven into the back of the wind tunnel by the belt. What do you mean by 'switched off'?
If the engines weren't running. I'm not at my most eloquent this morning.

Jonny671

29,896 posts

218 months

Saturday 31st January 2009
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RDE said:
AJS- said:
Actually, what if the plane was switched off, but got sufficient lift from the wind tunnel to take off, while moving backwards on the conveyor belt?
It would take off. And then decelerate, descend and be driven into the back of the wind tunnel by the belt. What do you mean by 'switched off'?
Hes got a good question actually..

What if the plane had no engines, just flaps on the wings..

Would it take off under the same circumstances?

speedfreaky

11,345 posts

221 months

Saturday 31st January 2009
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What if we all shot ourselves the next time this question is asked?FFS!

Nic Jones

7,186 posts

249 months

Saturday 31st January 2009
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When we test aircraft models in the wind tunnel as the wind speed increases/angle of attack increases the aircraft takes off (on the test bed) and the screen can tell us how much lift it generates.

Obviously it doesn't go backwards because it's fixed to the leverage arm of the tunnel and it doesn't go forward because there is no thrust.

It really isn't a hard concept to grasp.

HRG

72,863 posts

268 months

Saturday 31st January 2009
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Jonny671 said:
RDE said:
AJS- said:
Actually, what if the plane was switched off, but got sufficient lift from the wind tunnel to take off, while moving backwards on the conveyor belt?
It would take off. And then decelerate, descend and be driven into the back of the wind tunnel by the belt. What do you mean by 'switched off'?
Hes got a good question actually..

What if the plane had no engines, just flaps on the wings..

Would it take off under the same circumstances?
Yup. I used to have a microlight and you could fly backwards if the wind was strong enough.

speedfreaky

11,345 posts

221 months

Saturday 31st January 2009
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Jonny671 said:
RDE said:
AJS- said:
Actually, what if the plane was switched off, but got sufficient lift from the wind tunnel to take off, while moving backwards on the conveyor belt?
It would take off. And then decelerate, descend and be driven into the back of the wind tunnel by the belt. What do you mean by 'switched off'?
Hes got a good question actually..

What if the plane had no engines, just flaps on the wings..

Would it take off under the same circumstances?
For what its worth ,the plane doesnt need engines to fly - gliders anyone?In this example....Oh bks ,cant be bothered ,I'm off to top myself (or i might just hang around - might be more fun!)

RDE

5,037 posts

243 months

Saturday 31st January 2009
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Well if you've got a wind tunnel, provided the aircraft is mounted somewhere, you don't need engines.

stephen300o

15,464 posts

257 months

Saturday 31st January 2009
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AJS- said:
Would it take off while stationary if the wind tunnel wasblowing from the front at the same speed as the conveyor belt was running backwards and the plane trying to go forwards at enough speed to take off?
The wind blowing from the front has just given it a nice headwind, increasing lift. Blowing takeoff speed from the rear though...

AlpineWhite

2,164 posts

224 months

Saturday 31st January 2009
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Perhaps the 'Mythbusters' TV program could do a feature on this, to settle it for once and for all.


















Oh, wait....

stephen300o

15,464 posts

257 months

Saturday 31st January 2009
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AlpineWhite said:
Perhaps the 'Mythbusters' TV program could do a feature on this, to settle it for once and for all.


















Oh, wait....
They setup a wind tunnel?