Has the Government ever acted on any 'e-petition?
Discussion
After reading the threads about the Government 'missing the point' of the VED based e-petition it started me wondering if Number 10 have ever taken any notice of any petition on the government website.
I have signed a few in the past but gave-up when the response to ALL of them was a general fobbing off not really related to the petition. The most infamous of which was the total disregard for the anti-road charging petition.
My question then to the knowledgable PH masses is:
Does anyone know of any e-petition where government actions have been taken as a result?
I think I may actually start a petition along the lines of "we the undersigned request the government to actually take notice of these e-petitions"
I have signed a few in the past but gave-up when the response to ALL of them was a general fobbing off not really related to the petition. The most infamous of which was the total disregard for the anti-road charging petition.
My question then to the knowledgable PH masses is:
Does anyone know of any e-petition where government actions have been taken as a result?
I think I may actually start a petition along the lines of "we the undersigned request the government to actually take notice of these e-petitions"
I think you'd be better off starting a petition demanding that they answer to the problem that is being put to them instead of side-stepping them with some pre written nonsense intended for the uneducated masses.
ETA: I didn't even read the reply to the last one they responded to as after reading the first line I was already dis-heartened.
ETA: I didn't even read the reply to the last one they responded to as after reading the first line I was already dis-heartened.
Edited by madrob6 on Sunday 1st February 03:07
I have stopped signing them - soon after I stopped reading the responses.
As the other posters have said, the responses are side-stepping fob-offs and prove the government has no intention of understanding or acting upon the wishes of the masses.
In fact, it proves the government is not even interested in debating the subject - democracy is dead.
As the other posters have said, the responses are side-stepping fob-offs and prove the government has no intention of understanding or acting upon the wishes of the masses.
In fact, it proves the government is not even interested in debating the subject - democracy is dead.
I think the e-petition idea was complete and utter genius
It gives us somewhere to air our opinions and allows us to feel like we have had our say in democracy and the running of the country
And they have no legal basis what so ever so the government can completely ignore them
And seeing we feel that we have excersised our democratic right and voice we aren't going to do anything that might make a difference
And who sayes the government are stupid, they are geniuses
It gives us somewhere to air our opinions and allows us to feel like we have had our say in democracy and the running of the country
And they have no legal basis what so ever so the government can completely ignore them
And seeing we feel that we have excersised our democratic right and voice we aren't going to do anything that might make a difference
And who sayes the government are stupid, they are geniuses
The epetitions get very little response because they get no publicity. I've thought about this one before and I think the solution is available.
If there a good enough online support then it needs a regular print dump of signatories to actually take along and hand in to number 10 after tipping off the press. Those "handed in" petitions often get some air time and if it's a contentious enough issue I'm sure the press would be interested.
The potential for a very large online petition is there if it's used properly and every signatory sets out to get their friends to support it. By handing it in as a pile of documents, televised, it could turn around to number 10 and give it the nasty bite on the hand that it deserves
Of course no one says it has to be X number of signatories per page so it's possible to hand in an apparently enormous pile of documents, carried on a trolley or driven in a van.
The response to the press questions could be "there are simply too many to count" when asked how many there are and by then the damage would be done to number 10. It's the old Campbell spin plus a picture paints a thousand words turned on it's head
and of course, all perfectly legal.
If there a good enough online support then it needs a regular print dump of signatories to actually take along and hand in to number 10 after tipping off the press. Those "handed in" petitions often get some air time and if it's a contentious enough issue I'm sure the press would be interested.
The potential for a very large online petition is there if it's used properly and every signatory sets out to get their friends to support it. By handing it in as a pile of documents, televised, it could turn around to number 10 and give it the nasty bite on the hand that it deserves
Of course no one says it has to be X number of signatories per page so it's possible to hand in an apparently enormous pile of documents, carried on a trolley or driven in a van.The response to the press questions could be "there are simply too many to count" when asked how many there are and by then the damage would be done to number 10. It's the old Campbell spin plus a picture paints a thousand words turned on it's head
and of course, all perfectly legal.
Puggit said:
davido140 said:
The only one that ever had a huge response was the road charging one wasnt it?
Hundreds of thousands (if not millions?) of signatures..
All that managed to do was delay thier plans by a year or two.
2.2m signatures IIRC - thrown straight in the bin by Bliar.Hundreds of thousands (if not millions?) of signatures..
All that managed to do was delay thier plans by a year or two.
ks. Completly pointlessNobody You Know said:
Does anyone know of any e-petition where government actions have been taken as a result?
Yes. I signed an e-petition against a proposed change in the highway code that said something like where there is a cycle lane cyclists must use it. The e-petition was set up as many cycle lanes in London are ill thought out and I (and others) would prefer to ride on the road when commuting. I think it was feared that if a cyclist was knocked off by a car when on the road and there was a cycle lane to use then the cyclist could be held at fault.To be honest I was gobsmacked when I got an email saying they had considered the peition and amended the bill (or whatever it was).
Some of you may remember a post about proposed new laws for Bailiffs. I said I'd put up an epetition. When the eventually got back to me they denied it with the following:
Hi,
I'm sorry to inform you that your petition has been rejected.
Your petition was classed as being in the following categories:
* The names of individuals, or information where they may be
identified, in relation to criminal accusations
Further information: Individual legal cases are a matter for
direct communication with the Home Office.
I posted the following:
We the undersigned petition the Prime Minister to: 'Abolish
powers of entry and restraint for Bailiffs before they're
passed.'
Imagine you move into your new home, as owner or tenant. Some
time later, you get home after a day at work to find that your
house has been burgled. No, hang-on, the burglars left you a
note. The burglars are a firm of bailiffs who have removed
your items to pay a loan, or a fine, or anything else, that
anyone could have run up using your address.
Or maybe your family were at home and the bailiffs forced there
way in, restrained your obviously angry and upset family, in
order for them to make a list of your belongings or remove
them.
The government is proposing change that make these situations
possible.
How can these situations ever be redressed? The bailiffs won’t
care, their job is done. Will the government? Or the supposed
watchdog?
What use would a watchdog really be in this sector?
Those who make debts should pay them off, but forced entry to a
house should ONLY be carried out by Police Officers.
Somthing tells me that the government won't be advertising said situations....whilst the petition may sound a little emotional, it serves the purpose of illustrating the probable downside to these changes.
Coanda
Hi,
I'm sorry to inform you that your petition has been rejected.
Your petition was classed as being in the following categories:
* The names of individuals, or information where they may be
identified, in relation to criminal accusations
Further information: Individual legal cases are a matter for
direct communication with the Home Office.
I posted the following:
We the undersigned petition the Prime Minister to: 'Abolish
powers of entry and restraint for Bailiffs before they're
passed.'
Imagine you move into your new home, as owner or tenant. Some
time later, you get home after a day at work to find that your
house has been burgled. No, hang-on, the burglars left you a
note. The burglars are a firm of bailiffs who have removed
your items to pay a loan, or a fine, or anything else, that
anyone could have run up using your address.
Or maybe your family were at home and the bailiffs forced there
way in, restrained your obviously angry and upset family, in
order for them to make a list of your belongings or remove
them.
The government is proposing change that make these situations
possible.
How can these situations ever be redressed? The bailiffs won’t
care, their job is done. Will the government? Or the supposed
watchdog?
What use would a watchdog really be in this sector?
Those who make debts should pay them off, but forced entry to a
house should ONLY be carried out by Police Officers.
Somthing tells me that the government won't be advertising said situations....whilst the petition may sound a little emotional, it serves the purpose of illustrating the probable downside to these changes.
Coanda
Edited by anonymous-user on Sunday 1st February 11:04
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