Train vs snow...
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_Batty_

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12,268 posts

279 months

Monday 2nd February 2009
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...why are they effected?

Puggit

49,789 posts

277 months

Monday 2nd February 2009
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First train goes along and compacts the snow on to the rails.

2nd train can't speed up or slow down...

briSk

14,291 posts

255 months

Monday 2nd February 2009
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more to the point why are buses cocked up... i managed to get from MK to the west end this morning but people can't get here from other bits of london!

Fittster

20,120 posts

242 months

Monday 2nd February 2009
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Pretty poor that there website was dead this morning so I couldn't check there service

Jasandjules

72,562 posts

258 months

Monday 2nd February 2009
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Surely you mean why are they affected IN THE UK............

I used to live in Canada, things don't stop for a little snow, or else the country would grind to a halt for a few months a year.

Randy Winkman

22,302 posts

218 months

Monday 2nd February 2009
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Jasandjules said:
Surely you mean why are they affected IN THE UK............

I used to live in Canada, things don't stop for a little snow, or else the country would grind to a halt for a few months a year.
So there is no choice but to deal with it in Canada. In the UK there is a fine balance in how much money to spend preparing for things that might only happen once every few years.

M@T.R

2,187 posts

259 months

Monday 2nd February 2009
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briSk said:
more to the point why are buses cocked up... i managed to get from MK to the west end this morning but people can't get here from other bits of london!
I imagine the reason buses are not running is becuse bus drivers don't live onboard the bus and as such have to get to work in the morning. If they can't make it through the snow then they cant drive the bus...

Puff Puff

23,205 posts

255 months

Monday 2nd February 2009
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_Batty_ said:
...why are they effected?
Perhaps because the drivers had difficulty getting work because there were no trains... or buses.... or the roads were a bit slippy.

pmanson

13,388 posts

282 months

Monday 2nd February 2009
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briSk said:
more to the point why are buses cocked up... i managed to get from MK to the west end this morning but people can't get here from other bits of london!
Leighton Buzzard into Euston was no problem for me either.

Walking from Euston to Russell Square was a different kettle of fish - I slipped over a couple of times! (Trainers tomorrow me thinks!).

Just keeping an eye on the train timetable - a lot seem to be cancelled going back the other way.

Gun

13,432 posts

247 months

Monday 2nd February 2009
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Guam said:
Randy Winkman said:
Jasandjules said:
Surely you mean why are they affected IN THE UK............

I used to live in Canada, things don't stop for a little snow, or else the country would grind to a halt for a few months a year.
So there is no choice but to deal with it in Canada. In the UK there is a fine balance in how much money to spend preparing for things that might only happen once every few years.
Yeah but how much would a bolt on Snowplough, on the front of the first train out really cost though?

Or am I missing something?
You probably wouldn't even need a plough, just a high pressure air system on the front of the train to blow all the lying snow off the tracks. It is ridiculous how everything grinds to a halt.

V8mate

45,899 posts

218 months

Monday 2nd February 2009
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Picking up electricity is the main issue; stopping the damn things on slippery rails the second (and lesser) issue.

South Eastern, Southern and South West Trains are hit hardest due to their ground level third rail power supply.

elster

17,517 posts

239 months

Monday 2nd February 2009
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Guam said:
Randy Winkman said:
Jasandjules said:
Surely you mean why are they affected IN THE UK............

I used to live in Canada, things don't stop for a little snow, or else the country would grind to a halt for a few months a year.
So there is no choice but to deal with it in Canada. In the UK there is a fine balance in how much money to spend preparing for things that might only happen once every few years.
Yeah but how much would a bolt on Snowplough, on the front of the first train out really cost though?

Or am I missing something?
There are enough snow ploughs for about half of the trains on the rail. So pretty much everything that is running on a daily basis.

It is just an excuse, much like the leaves on the track. A good excuse for the rail operators to get money out of NR.

Silent1

19,762 posts

264 months

Monday 2nd February 2009
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They don't stop for snow in austria, or much else for that matter.

GreenDog

2,261 posts

221 months

Monday 2nd February 2009
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My bugbear is why do so many schools close just because of a bit of snow - it happens every time a few flakes appear in the sky. Most other people manage to get to work FFS !

riwiho

3,802 posts

244 months

Monday 2nd February 2009
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AlexB

317 posts

265 months

Monday 2nd February 2009
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I'm guessing that many train drivers and other train support staff didn't turn up this morning so they can't run the service.
Alex

Simpo Two

92,670 posts

294 months

Monday 2nd February 2009
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_Batty_ said:
...why are they effected?
You mean they walk in a gay manner, or are affected?

MacBaren

1,155 posts

213 months

Monday 2nd February 2009
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GreenDog said:
My bugbear is why do so many schools close just because of a bit of snow - it happens every time a few flakes appear in the sky. Most other people manage to get to work FFS !
At a guess because schools fear the wide range of snow related accidents and the inevitable compensation claims that would follow.

ipitythefool

13,700 posts

277 months

Monday 2nd February 2009
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elster said:
Guam said:
Randy Winkman said:
Jasandjules said:
Surely you mean why are they affected IN THE UK............

I used to live in Canada, things don't stop for a little snow, or else the country would grind to a halt for a few months a year.
So there is no choice but to deal with it in Canada. In the UK there is a fine balance in how much money to spend preparing for things that might only happen once every few years.
Yeah but how much would a bolt on Snowplough, on the front of the first train out really cost though?

Or am I missing something?
There are enough snow ploughs for about half of the trains on the rail. So pretty much everything that is running on a daily basis.

It is just an excuse, much like the leaves on the track. A good excuse for the rail operators to get money out of NR.
You know that for a fact? Or have you done research?

wink

elster

17,517 posts

239 months

Monday 2nd February 2009
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V8mate said:
Picking up electricity is the main issue; stopping the damn things on slippery rails the second (and lesser) issue.

South Eastern, Southern and South West Trains are hit hardest due to their ground level third rail power supply.
The MPV De-icers work fantastically!!!!

They manage throughout Europe perfectly fine, believe me I worked with Socofer developing them.

It is an excuse.