Obama supports protectionism
Discussion
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northame...
Barack Obama, beloved friend of Gordon Broon, has decided to ban the import of British steel into the USA. Hope you Obama supporters are enjoying this.
Barack Obama, beloved friend of Gordon Broon, has decided to ban the import of British steel into the USA. Hope you Obama supporters are enjoying this.
Los Angeles said:
Can guys like you not find a political website to indulge in snarking? Have none of you an interest in cars in any form?
The Pie & Piston is about 50-60% a political forum 
And these posts are just the natural reaction of people who are fed up with the constant in your face media coverage and are actually looking at his policies rather than simply worshiping him.
Bushmaster said:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northame...
Barack Obama, beloved friend of Gordon Broon, has decided to ban the import of British steel into the USA. Hope you Obama supporters are enjoying this.
Barack Obama, beloved friend of Gordon Broon, has decided to ban the import of British steel into the USA. Hope you Obama supporters are enjoying this.
Blib said:
He's a Democrat. That's what Democrats believe in doing during a recession.
Do try to keep up at the back. Bush's steel tariff
What I can never understand about imports, is how can they possibly compete with local products.
UK Steel - available just down the road from source, delivered there by truck.
Imported European Steel - loaded onto truck, sent hundreds of miles, through Chunnel, then miles more. Huge extra costs for: truck time, fuel, driver wages.
And for steel exported to America, add container transport, truck and train transport across the US, and a ridiculous additional cost to get stuff delivered to the West Coast.
Surely, on a logical basis, if you went to the local 'steel mongers', imported steel would be considerably more expensive that local steel, so purchase of local product would be a no brainer.
"Let's see, steel bars from Arkansas are $100, and ones from the UK are $135. Er, I'll take the ones at $135."
Same should apply to steak - why import/export cows here there and everywhere? Why doesn't every country just keep their own cows, and cut out loads of crap?
UK Steel - available just down the road from source, delivered there by truck.
Imported European Steel - loaded onto truck, sent hundreds of miles, through Chunnel, then miles more. Huge extra costs for: truck time, fuel, driver wages.
And for steel exported to America, add container transport, truck and train transport across the US, and a ridiculous additional cost to get stuff delivered to the West Coast.
Surely, on a logical basis, if you went to the local 'steel mongers', imported steel would be considerably more expensive that local steel, so purchase of local product would be a no brainer.
"Let's see, steel bars from Arkansas are $100, and ones from the UK are $135. Er, I'll take the ones at $135."
Same should apply to steak - why import/export cows here there and everywhere? Why doesn't every country just keep their own cows, and cut out loads of crap?
Cpn Jack Spanner said:
What I can never understand about imports, is how can they possibly compete with local products.
UK Steel - available just down the road from source, delivered there by truck.
Imported European Steel - loaded onto truck, sent hundreds of miles, through Chunnel, then miles more. Huge extra costs for: truck time, fuel, driver wages.
And for steel exported to America, add container transport, truck and train transport across the US, and a ridiculous additional cost to get stuff delivered to the West Coast.
Surely, on a logical basis, if you went to the local 'steel mongers', imported steel would be considerably more expensive that local steel, so purchase of local product would be a no brainer.
"Let's see, steel bars from Arkansas are $100, and ones from the UK are $135. Er, I'll take the ones at $135."
Same should apply to steak - why import/export cows here there and everywhere? Why doesn't every country just keep their own cows, and cut out loads of crap?
If that were the case there would be no need to ban imports. UK Steel - available just down the road from source, delivered there by truck.
Imported European Steel - loaded onto truck, sent hundreds of miles, through Chunnel, then miles more. Huge extra costs for: truck time, fuel, driver wages.
And for steel exported to America, add container transport, truck and train transport across the US, and a ridiculous additional cost to get stuff delivered to the West Coast.
Surely, on a logical basis, if you went to the local 'steel mongers', imported steel would be considerably more expensive that local steel, so purchase of local product would be a no brainer.
"Let's see, steel bars from Arkansas are $100, and ones from the UK are $135. Er, I'll take the ones at $135."
Same should apply to steak - why import/export cows here there and everywhere? Why doesn't every country just keep their own cows, and cut out loads of crap?
Cpn Jack Spanner said:
What I can never understand about imports, is how can they possibly compete with local products.
Seems odd doesn't it but I did a three year stretch in the industry and apparently it works out one of two ways.First off there's the very high quality stuff (engineering steels etc.) which we are particularly good at in the UK. You need to spend a bomb on expensive plant and highly trained operatives and if the Yanks don't then they won't be able to produce it as cheaply. They haven't so the UK is quids in, or at least we were until the Indians worked this out and bought us up.
Then there's the cheap sh
t like bulk slabs. Over in the third world where they're never heard of hard hats and chuck in anything they can find like cheap ore, old ships, stray dogs and children, they knock out the bulk discount stuff for peanuts and the EU/US can't compete. Well until an Indian invents health and safety...Gassing Station | The Pie & Piston Archive | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff