Local council not thick but ignorant
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In London, we live, basically, on a hill. For anyone living there every exit is a downhill side road to one of the main roads.
In the past there used to be salt boxes at the bottom of these roads. When I was a child they also used to be manually gritted by a chap with a shovel.
Now. Cut back to today and I deeply suspect that there is noone in the council who is either old enough to have seen frozen streets in London or originally from a country where snow or ice have any form of impact at any point.
The net result is that most of the salt bins have been removed. Those that remain have been empty for years and I've just spent 30 minutes of my life trying to explain that cars sliding out onto main roads is unhelthy and that all that is needed is for a chap to shovel some grit off a truck onto the bottom parts of these roads before they meet the main road.
Now, you would have thought that this was a simple concept to comprehend but sadly this is not the case. For 30 minutes I was told that the gritting trucks can't go up the side roads, so nothing can be done.
Luckily, I pay one of the highest council taxes in the country so at least I have that to fall back on in times such as this.
In the past there used to be salt boxes at the bottom of these roads. When I was a child they also used to be manually gritted by a chap with a shovel.
Now. Cut back to today and I deeply suspect that there is noone in the council who is either old enough to have seen frozen streets in London or originally from a country where snow or ice have any form of impact at any point.
The net result is that most of the salt bins have been removed. Those that remain have been empty for years and I've just spent 30 minutes of my life trying to explain that cars sliding out onto main roads is unhelthy and that all that is needed is for a chap to shovel some grit off a truck onto the bottom parts of these roads before they meet the main road.
Now, you would have thought that this was a simple concept to comprehend but sadly this is not the case. For 30 minutes I was told that the gritting trucks can't go up the side roads, so nothing can be done.
Luckily, I pay one of the highest council taxes in the country so at least I have that to fall back on in times such as this.

I feel your angst! I phoned my council (Haringey) to complain about the new residents only parking bay scheme. Trying to explain that; being the road was narrow, when two vehicles are parked opposite each other, the gap between the parked vehicles was insufficient to allow a fire-engine through.
The over-paid-unable-to-survive-in-the-real-world response; "but I left passing places"
The over-paid-unable-to-survive-in-the-real-world response; "but I left passing places"

When I was groing up there was a crossroads where traffic turning right would regularly be involved in massive and lethal collissions with oncoming traffic due to the layout and restricted visibility of the specific junction.
The solution was to ban traffic from turning right and all the deaths and accidents stop.
However, you can always tell when someone new has been put in charge of traffic as they remove the ban on right turns and people start dying again before they learn the reason for it having been there in the first instance.
You would have thought that the predessesor might have left some notes as to why it should remain.
The solution was to ban traffic from turning right and all the deaths and accidents stop.
However, you can always tell when someone new has been put in charge of traffic as they remove the ban on right turns and people start dying again before they learn the reason for it having been there in the first instance.
You would have thought that the predessesor might have left some notes as to why it should remain.
rude-boy said:
It's okay. The lives will now all be saved by the instillation of a speed camera and road humps. HTH.
Funny you should say that. The feeder street is now covered in speed bumps but the deaths are caused by the fast moving traffic coming out of town the other way.There are also 2 speed cameras placed 400 yds after the junction to slow that speeding traffic down after they have sped over it.
NDA said:
I was told this morning that our local gritters have gone on strike.
But as a council worker posted on here recently, paying council tax has nothing to do with the provision of services, it's just simply a tax to keep them paid.
Council tax is a small percentage of a council's income, it could well be that it equals the payroll.But as a council worker posted on here recently, paying council tax has nothing to do with the provision of services, it's just simply a tax to keep them paid.
Puff Puff said:
NDA said:
I was told this morning that our local gritters have gone on strike.
But as a council worker posted on here recently, paying council tax has nothing to do with the provision of services, it's just simply a tax to keep them paid.
Council tax is a small percentage of a council's income, it could well be that it equals the payroll.But as a council worker posted on here recently, paying council tax has nothing to do with the provision of services, it's just simply a tax to keep them paid.
robinhood21 said:
I feel your angst! I phoned my council (Haringey) to complain about the new residents only parking bay scheme. Trying to explain that; being the road was narrow, when two vehicles are parked opposite each other, the gap between the parked vehicles was insufficient to allow a fire-engine through.
The over-paid-unable-to-survive-in-the-real-world response; "but I left passing places"
If it's really a problem I'd phone the fire brigade.The over-paid-unable-to-survive-in-the-real-world response; "but I left passing places"

mouseymousey said:
robinhood21 said:
I feel your angst! I phoned my council (Haringey) to complain about the new residents only parking bay scheme. Trying to explain that; being the road was narrow, when two vehicles are parked opposite each other, the gap between the parked vehicles was insufficient to allow a fire-engine through.
The over-paid-unable-to-survive-in-the-real-world response; "but I left passing places"
If it's really a problem I'd phone the fire brigade.The over-paid-unable-to-survive-in-the-real-world response; "but I left passing places"

NDA said:
Puff Puff said:
NDA said:
I was told this morning that our local gritters have gone on strike.
But as a council worker posted on here recently, paying council tax has nothing to do with the provision of services, it's just simply a tax to keep them paid.
Council tax is a small percentage of a council's income, it could well be that it equals the payroll.But as a council worker posted on here recently, paying council tax has nothing to do with the provision of services, it's just simply a tax to keep them paid.
Horse_Apple said:
Now, you would have thought that this was a simple concept to comprehend but sadly this is not the case. For 30 minutes I was told that the gritting trucks can't go up the side roads, so nothing can be done.
At the risk of making a heinous, indeed possibly heretical suggestion, would it not be possible for the gritting truck to stop just past the junction, reverse into it, spread and then continue on its way, repeating the same process at the foot of each side-road?Sorry...

robinhood21 said:
...Can't fit a Fire Engine...
You do realise that simple minded council f
kers will just allow parking down one side of the raod only if you persist. Then if you don't your house could burn down? Rock & hard place spring to mind.
ETA: Councils have A & B priority roads to grit as they can't do all of them. So only main road get done.
Edited by MK4 Slowride on Tuesday 3rd February 15:19
tlracing said:
Horse_Apple said:
Now, you would have thought that this was a simple concept to comprehend but sadly this is not the case. For 30 minutes I was told that the gritting trucks can't go up the side roads, so nothing can be done.
At the risk of making a heinous, indeed possibly heretical suggestion, would it not be possible for the gritting truck to stop just past the junction, reverse into it, spread and then continue on its way, repeating the same process at the foot of each side-road?Sorry...

MK4 Slowride said:
robinhood21 said:
...Can't fit a Fire Engine...
You do realise that simple minded council f
kers will just allow parking down one side of the raod only if you persist. Then if you don't your house could burn down? Rock & hard place spring to mind.

They have already proposed double yellow lines along one half of the Road, which is OK by me as there are no houses on that section. But, have made no changes to the problem section.
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