Ceiling ideas for new showroom...Please help!
Ceiling ideas for new showroom...Please help!
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E31Shrew

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Thursday 19th February 2009
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I've decided to go against all advice, and extend my current store to take on the first floor area above. Sell a wide range of Audio Visual kit and basically want to convert the first floor to represent an open plan appartment, with a bathroom, kitchen , lounge etc etc. Each area will have audio and visual kit installed, incuding bathroom and mirror tellies, to show clients what can be achieved in this field. Trouble is the cost of putting a new plasterboard ceiling in is way above my budget . The total area of the ceiling will be 100 sq metres. Quotes so far for plasterboard seem to be around £5000.00!!!! Only cost me £20000 to build a 2 storey garage with a flat above!

Have looked at the stretch ceiling solutions, which although superb and easy to install cost around £65.00 a sq metre. My other thought is to spray the blockwork in the roof black, and run all electrical cabling and speaker wire in galvanised trays [also black] and then hang industrial type lighting on flex. The walls are all going to be painted bright white with all electrical stuff hidden in steel conduit. The overall effect , I hope, will be similar to the type of industrial warehouse conversions.

Help!

Autonotiv

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Thursday 19th February 2009
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Well how much do you have to spend?

E31Shrew

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Thursday 19th February 2009
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£3000 max on this part of the job. Also building partitions, cabling and flooring! Want to keep total budget to £10000 maximum.

Pvapour

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Thursday 19th February 2009
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not sure if its going to be keeping if your looking for a modern ceiling, but I created pitched ceiling in a showroom in Oxford which was very cost effective and created a warm olde worlde style (as walnut colouring was used) normal rafters going to a ridge off wall plates to the sides with ivory fibreboard in between the rafters, quite easy to DIY but you do need height, at least 10ft ceiling I'd think.

Probably a terrible idea for a modern sound gallery, but this was for a door showroom so worked well, guess you could do a modern take on it scratchchin

£1500 Materials I'd reckon
£600 2 x chippys for 2 days
£300 3 days Painting dec.

HTH



E31Shrew

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Thursday 19th February 2009
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Thanks for that. Only have max 8ft ceiling at present which will need to come down, to hide cabling and speakers behind.


Famous Graham

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Thursday 19th February 2009
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How about suspended ceiling, a la offices?

E31Shrew

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Thursday 19th February 2009
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Famous Graham said:
How about suspended ceiling, a la offices?
Wanted to try and keep away from the whole 'office' feel. Plasterboard would be the ideal as trying to replicate a home environment but might well be too expensive.

When you think of how many hundreds of stores you've been in over the years and never looked up! Even considered buying a couple of old parachutes or is that too 80's disco????

sone

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Thursday 19th February 2009
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Depending on access (scaffolding) Ceilings circa £16m2 std layin grid ceiling(officey), or MF ~(plasterboard) about £25m2 with a tape and joint finish and emulsion.

Remeber access above ceilings could be importrant to you if you wiring in the voids so the LIG ceiling could be an advantage.

Autonotiv

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Thursday 19th February 2009
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How many quotes you get for the plaster boarding?

You could get all the materials, then get a crew of tackers in to put it all up?

AlexKP

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Thursday 19th February 2009
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Get some sheets, put eyelets in them, then stretch them taught with a small gap in between to make it a design feature, use white cord in a zig-zag arrangement to secure them - maybe to a simple wooden square frame. Fast, cheap and funky. Kind of like lightweight tarpaulins.

sone

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Thursday 19th February 2009
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Think fire regs need to be considered when looking at fabrics, they will be rated for spread of flame (not fire rated) and a commercial enviroment this should be a consideration.

B17NNS

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Thursday 19th February 2009
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I'd try getting a few other quotes on the board and skim option. Quote sounds pricey.

To tack the boards should be about £170 (fiver each)
Boards £165 (fiver each)
To tape and skim would be 2 spreads and a labourer for the day £300
Multifinish £20 (fiver a bag - 2 coats)

£655

I've assumed you have ceiling joists. If not a suitable false ceiling would need to be constructed but a chippy could fire something up out of 3" x 2" quickly and cheaply.

E31Shrew

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Thats the one! Off to the chandlers in the morning! Shame we're not on the coast as finding one in Shrewsbury could be a bit daunting. Great idea...

AlexKP

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Thursday 19th February 2009
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E31Shrew said:
anonymous said:
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Thats the one! Off to the chandlers in the morning! Shame we're not on the coast as finding one in Shrewsbury could be a bit daunting. Great idea...
Happy to help!

I've still got those lateral thinking grooves going on.

One condition - post up some pics when you are done and let me know. I'd like to see how it comes out.

Cheers,
Alex

E31Shrew

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sone said:
Think fire regs need to be considered when looking at fabrics, they will be rated for spread of flame (not fire rated) and a commercial enviroment this should be a consideration.
Thanks for that. Contacted local council re building regs and they were pretty laid back about it as it was the top floor of a two storey building. Above the ceiling its just blocks so fire cant travel upwards ...Might be the fact that they own the building and they are desperate to let it out!

E31Shrew

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anonymous said:
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Would also look good if I can find a heavy enough material, that was slightly translucent to put lighting behind. That's it....Will send pint in post! Thanks a bunch.

steve.c

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Thursday 19th February 2009
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How the heck do they come to around £5k for plasterboard? the most I can get it to with a tape/joint finish is around £1k

sone

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Thursday 19th February 2009
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steve.c said:
How the heck do they come to around £5k for plasterboard? the most I can get it to with a tape/joint finish is around £1k
£10 a m2 , will come and do some work with us!.

steve.c

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Thursday 19th February 2009
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sone said:
steve.c said:
How the heck do they come to around £5k for plasterboard? the most I can get it to with a tape/joint finish is around £1k
£10 a m2 , will come and do some work with us!.
Well if you have some work going we do travel!

sone

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Thursday 19th February 2009
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steve.c said:
sone said:
steve.c said:
How the heck do they come to around £5k for plasterboard? the most I can get it to with a tape/joint finish is around £1k
£10 a m2 , will come and do some work with us!.
Well if you have some work going we do travel!
We pay around 1.65m2 for board
about £4m2 tape and joint
fixings about 40p m2
Support grid and trims approx £4m2
Labour £7.50m2
Emulsion £4m2

So cost of £21.55 excluding any waste or profits