Another dangerous criminal behind bars
Another dangerous criminal behind bars
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colonel c

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7,950 posts

255 months

Saturday 21st February 2009
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Good to see the bad guys are being locked up.rolleyes

EDP24 said:
The son of a leading Norfolk farmer and veteran TV broadcaster was starting a five-year jail term last night after mistakenly falling foul of laws designed to prevent gangland crime and gun-running.

Andrew Richardson, 48, accidentally shipped a lethal revolver and ammunition from America, where he had been living, when he returned to live in the county 12 years ago. Instead of handing it in to police he decided to keep it, placing the weapon in storage.

But yesterday a judge at Norwich Crown Court said he had no option but to jail Richardson as the weapon could have easily fallen into the wrong hands.

Last night it emerged family and friends had been unaware of the court appearance - and only learnt the full details when contacted by the EDP. His father, leading Norfolk farmer, broadcaster and commentator, David Richardson said he could not comment until he knew the full facts of the case.

Robert Warner, prosecuting, told the court the .22 revolver which was in full working order was found placed in a green shoe box along with 10 to 15 live cartridges which could be used in the gun.

Mr Warner said that a police check revealed the gun had not been used in any known crimes: “There is no evidence this weapon has been fired in relation to any matters that police are aware of.”

When questioned by the police, Richardson said he had been given the gun and had used it to shoot rattlesnakes.

The court heard that he placed the gun in secure storage with the Big Yellow Self Storage Company, in Norwich, after it was transported amongst his other belongings.

But after a dispute over rent with the company the items were sent to a Norfolk auction house and when the gun and ammunition were found, police were called in and Richardson was arrested and interviewed about the matter.

Under tight new laws to crackdown on gun crime the minimum term for possessing an illegal gun is five years, unless there are exceptional circumstances.

When questioned by police he said Richardson told police how he had spent a significant period of time from 1980 to 1997 living in the United States.

Richardson, of Damage Street Wymondham, who is of previous good character admitted possession of a gun and ammunition without a certificate.

Jailing him, Recorder Peter Guest said that the tight laws on firearms were as a result of Parliament's concern about the potential availability of firearms to criminals.

He added: “The law is concerned here with firearms which are lethal weapons. You acquired this weapon legally in the Unites States and I am told it was brought to this country not at you behest, but accidently.

“You realised that this firearm should have been given to the authorities for destruction but you did not do that. It is impossible to fathom why you thought it appropriate to keep this lethal weapon and ammunition in storage.”

He said if a criminal gang had broken into the secure storage depot they might have got their hands on the gun.

“If it had been someone with a criminal mind then it could have taken a different course and that gun and ammunition could have fallen into the wrong hands and be used potentially for lethal purposes,” Mr Guest added.

Jude Durr, for Richardson, argued there were mitigating circumstances. He said that Mr Richardson was highly experienced businessman and had been working in Texas before his return to the UK where he was legally given the gun by his employer.

Mr Durr said the Richardson had planned to deal with it later but in the meantime had placed it with other items into secure storage and forgot about it as it had such a “non-existent role” in his life.

After the hearing his legal team said they were considering appealing against the sentence.

Oakey

27,939 posts

232 months

Saturday 21st February 2009
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Ah see, what he should have done is make sure there were no prints on the gun and then plead ignorance, like thus:

http://www.blackpoolgazette.co.uk/blackpoolnews/Cl...

philthy

4,697 posts

256 months

Saturday 21st February 2009
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Total stupidity.
He would have been better off giving the pistol to one of the "criminal gangs" to get rid of it. At least he wouldn't be going to prison.


tubbystu

3,846 posts

276 months

Saturday 21st February 2009
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philthy said:
Total stupidity.
He would have been better off giving the pistol to one of the "criminal gangs" to get rid of it. At least he wouldn't be going to prison.
He would have been better off paying his storage bills first hehe

thinfourth2

32,414 posts

220 months

Saturday 21st February 2009
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Would of probably got less if he had shot someone.

Also he put himself in jail as he did a very very stupid thing of helping the police, if you are honest with them they will only use your honesty against you, always.

Jasandjules

71,206 posts

245 months

Saturday 21st February 2009
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He would have been better off using it to kill a few people he doesn't like, then he'd only get 2-3 years.......

philthy

4,697 posts

256 months

Saturday 21st February 2009
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Jasandjules said:
He would have been better off using it to kill a few people he doesn't like, then he'd only get 2-3 years.......
It was only a .22 more likely to annoy them hehe

Cheeky Jim

1,276 posts

296 months

Saturday 21st February 2009
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What a complete and utter joke. Precisely why the CPS and Police get such a st press. If Recorders, judges et al cannot see the damage they do when they persecute or proscecute (take your pick) otherwise law abiding citizens because it's an easy win, then more fool them.

Sometimes you do wonder precisely when common sense will return to these purveyors of the law.

Poor bloke.

angryS3owner

15,855 posts

245 months

Saturday 21st February 2009
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Oh well I feel so much safer now! Where is the common sense around here?

Pesty

42,655 posts

272 months

Saturday 21st February 2009
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so what os the difference betwwen that guy and this guy

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-10308...

he got 18 months
for having one on him out and about while behaving threatiningly. He group also glorifies viloence. a few other so solid crew have been in trouble and there has been plenty of vilolence after their concerts.
He is also a role model to many kids.


"A further charge of possessing the gun with intent to cause fear of violence was ordered to lie on file."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/1892317.s...

Edited by Pesty on Saturday 21st February 12:17

collateral

7,238 posts

234 months

Saturday 21st February 2009
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Can't really see what he could have done once it was here, except maybe throw it in the sea or something.

Pretty stupid to accidentally import it, either way...

robinhood21

30,934 posts

248 months

Saturday 21st February 2009
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Cheeky Jim said:
Sometimes you do wonder precisely when common sense will return to these purveyors of the law.

Poor bloke.
I dare say it wont return until the powers that be stop targets and form filling and, let the BIB return to the streets to get on with the job they are paid to do.

eccles

14,024 posts

238 months

Saturday 21st February 2009
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collateral said:
Can't really see what he could have done once it was here, except maybe throw it in the sea or something.

Pretty stupid to accidentally import it, either way...
He could of course have just handed it to the police....

collateral

7,238 posts

234 months

Saturday 21st February 2009
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eccles said:
collateral said:
Can't really see what he could have done once it was here, except maybe throw it in the sea or something.

Pretty stupid to accidentally import it, either way...
He could of course have just handed it to the police....
I doubt it's that simple though. I know they have amnesties and that, but calling Bill up and saying 'I've accidentally imported a pistol and I want to hand it in' would probably get a van full of the Braziliankiller/tablelegdefenders over pretty sharpish

eccles

14,024 posts

238 months

Saturday 21st February 2009
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collateral said:
eccles said:
collateral said:
Can't really see what he could have done once it was here, except maybe throw it in the sea or something.

Pretty stupid to accidentally import it, either way...
He could of course have just handed it to the police....
I doubt it's that simple though. I know they have amnesties and that, but calling Bill up and saying 'I've accidentally imported a pistol and I want to hand it in' would probably get a van full of the Braziliankiller/tablelegdefenders over pretty sharpish
Judge said...

“You realised that this firearm should have been given to the authorities for destruction but you did not do that. It is impossible to fathom why you thought it appropriate to keep this lethal weapon and ammunition in storage.”

Oakey

27,939 posts

232 months

Saturday 21st February 2009
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eccles said:
collateral said:
eccles said:
collateral said:
Can't really see what he could have done once it was here, except maybe throw it in the sea or something.

Pretty stupid to accidentally import it, either way...
He could of course have just handed it to the police....
I doubt it's that simple though. I know they have amnesties and that, but calling Bill up and saying 'I've accidentally imported a pistol and I want to hand it in' would probably get a van full of the Braziliankiller/tablelegdefenders over pretty sharpish
Judge said...

“You realised that this firearm should have been given to the authorities for destruction but you did not do that. It is impossible to fathom why you thought it appropriate to keep this lethal weapon and ammunition in storage.”
If it's that simple then why are there amnesties?

GKP

15,099 posts

257 months

Saturday 21st February 2009
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My MIL recently had to contact the local BiB to get rid of my Brother in law's shotgun. He used to (legally) store it in their loft but has no use for it for a few years since emigrating.

MiL lives in a little Cotswold town and had no problem in getting the legalities sorted but said she had to stifle a laugh when the two local bobbies turned up to collect it. They both were, shall we say, fond of donuts and had trouble getting through the hatch into the loft, let alone balancing on the narrow ceiling joists.

hehe

eccles

14,024 posts

238 months

Saturday 21st February 2009
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Oakey said:
eccles said:
collateral said:
eccles said:
collateral said:
Can't really see what he could have done once it was here, except maybe throw it in the sea or something.

Pretty stupid to accidentally import it, either way...
He could of course have just handed it to the police....
I doubt it's that simple though. I know they have amnesties and that, but calling Bill up and saying 'I've accidentally imported a pistol and I want to hand it in' would probably get a van full of the Braziliankiller/tablelegdefenders over pretty sharpish
Judge said...

“You realised that this firearm should have been given to the authorities for destruction but you did not do that. It is impossible to fathom why you thought it appropriate to keep this lethal weapon and ammunition in storage.”
If it's that simple then why are there amnesties?
Why do amnesties have start and finish dates?

Oakey

27,939 posts

232 months

Saturday 21st February 2009
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eccles said:
Oakey said:
eccles said:
collateral said:
eccles said:
collateral said:
Can't really see what he could have done once it was here, except maybe throw it in the sea or something.

Pretty stupid to accidentally import it, either way...
He could of course have just handed it to the police....
I doubt it's that simple though. I know they have amnesties and that, but calling Bill up and saying 'I've accidentally imported a pistol and I want to hand it in' would probably get a van full of the Braziliankiller/tablelegdefenders over pretty sharpish
Judge said...

“You realised that this firearm should have been given to the authorities for destruction but you did not do that. It is impossible to fathom why you thought it appropriate to keep this lethal weapon and ammunition in storage.”
If it's that simple then why are there amnesties?
Why do amnesties have start and finish dates?
I don't know, why do they have start and finish dates?

Bushmaster

27,499 posts

295 months

Saturday 21st February 2009
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eccles said:
Oakey said:
eccles said:
collateral said:
eccles said:
collateral said:
Can't really see what he could have done once it was here, except maybe throw it in the sea or something.

Pretty stupid to accidentally import it, either way...
He could of course have just handed it to the police....
I doubt it's that simple though. I know they have amnesties and that, but calling Bill up and saying 'I've accidentally imported a pistol and I want to hand it in' would probably get a van full of the Braziliankiller/tablelegdefenders over pretty sharpish
Judge said...

“You realised that this firearm should have been given to the authorities for destruction but you did not do that. It is impossible to fathom why you thought it appropriate to keep this lethal weapon and ammunition in storage.”
If it's that simple then why are there amnesties?
Why do amnesties have start and finish dates?
Yes they do.