High-skilled foreign migrants to halves.
High-skilled foreign migrants to halves.
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Fittster

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Sunday 22nd February 2009
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"The number of highly skilled migrants coming to Britain from outside the European Union will be cut in half from next year after a tightening of entry requirements, the Home Secretary said today.

Ministers have also ordered a review to see if entrants could be restricted to occupations where there are shortages in the UK, and are also planning to make it easier to deport EU nationals convicted of sexual, violent and drugs crimes.

Jacqui Smith announced the tightening of the new points-based system after a series of wildcat walkouts by British workers protesting at jobs going to foreign migrants.

The moves come amid deepening concern among Labour backbenchers at the potency of claims that large numbers of foreign workers are entering the country at a time when tens of thousands of British workers are losing their jobs.

Speaking on the BBC's Andrew Marr Show, she said that highly skilled migrants would from April this year have to have a Masters rather than a Bachelors degree and to earn a minimum £20,000 a year compared with the current figure of £17,000.

In a move which could also signal further cuts in non EU migration, she has asked the Migration Advisory Committee to look at whether skilled migrants should be limited to occupations where there are currently skills shortages in the country such as civil engineers, chemical engineers, maths and science teachers and senior care workers.

She has also asked the committee to examine the economic contribution made to the UK by dependents of migrants entering under the points-based system."

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/art...

I feel I ought to be against this (free trade and all that) however as someone who works in IT where there are large numbers of Indian migrants I can't I am.

Monster26

284 posts

254 months

Sunday 22nd February 2009
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Finally....

odyssey2200

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238 months

Sunday 22nd February 2009
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meanwhile the number of unskilled, useless, scrounging benefit seekers will go unchecked rolleyes

AlexKP

16,484 posts

273 months

Sunday 22nd February 2009
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Tricky one.

We have an aging population that will need supporting, and our own educated classes aren't breeding enough.

(While the scrotes are shelling them like peas, obviously).

We need to be very careful that we don't do ourselves even more damage for the future.

I am also not convinced that lots of highly educated migrants will want to come to the UK for the foreseeable now.

Edited by AlexKP on Sunday 22 February 16:13

Hell27

1,564 posts

220 months

Sunday 22nd February 2009
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What about training the indigenous population? Seems to be quite a glut of highly skilled professional entering the market now, why not retrain? Surely a more sustainable solution?

playerone

872 posts

239 months

Sunday 22nd February 2009
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So what about the New Zealand, Australian, South African, American etc etc workers who put British attitudes and work ethic to shame?

Sounds like a move to appease the Daily Mail reading masses who like to blame everybody else for their problems.

Police State

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249 months

Sunday 22nd February 2009
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Monster26 said:
Finally....
after driving the final nail in the coffin of what once a great country, the bourgeois white-guilt-middle class guilt ridden feckwits have called it a day... too late. Now what on earth will they do for nannies and mini-cab drivers?


dibblecorse

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221 months

Sunday 22nd February 2009
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playerone said:
So what about the New Zealand, Australian, South African, American etc etc workers who put British attitudes and work ethic to shame?
Thats unfair, the problem with the British is they either ARE workers. or they ARE NOT, I work for a North American company with global offices and the work ethic of our Brit employees is up there with the rest of the world.

rabw

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237 months

Sunday 22nd February 2009
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does the EU even allow this?!

Chainguy

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229 months

Sunday 22nd February 2009
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dibblecorse said:
playerone said:
So what about the New Zealand, Australian, South African, American etc etc workers who put British attitudes and work ethic to shame?
Thats unfair, the problem with the British is they either ARE workers. or they ARE NOT, I work for a North American company with global offices and the work ethic of our Brit employees is up there with the rest of the world.
Well said. I work with all nationalities from around the globe, and the Brit guys on site are regarded as serious grafters. Instead of moaning about this and that, they just get on with the job. Playerone is well off the mark.

The point raised further up though about shutting the stable dor after the horse hasn't just bolted, but is UHU glue, is a very fair one.

Bloody Government has changed the face of a nation forever, and not for the best in my opinion, and then this rolleyes

ewenm

28,506 posts

274 months

Sunday 22nd February 2009
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rabw said:
does the EU even allow this?!
They're talking about non-EU migrants...

Hedders

24,460 posts

276 months

Sunday 22nd February 2009
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anonymous said:
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The way i read it was "We expect the number of people applying to come to the UK to halve but this way we can claim we were responsible for it".


rabw

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237 months

Sunday 22nd February 2009
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ewenm said:
rabw said:
does the EU even allow this?!
They're talking about non-EU migrants...
thanks paperbag

Eric Mc

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294 months

Sunday 22nd February 2009
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"Foreign" excludes all the countries of the EU.

BigLepton

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230 months

Sunday 22nd February 2009
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Eric Mc said:
"Foreign" excludes all the countries of the EU.
Yep, just leaves 500m people chasing after the skilled jobs then. . . . . . . wink

Eric Mc

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294 months

Sunday 22nd February 2009
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I must have seen this coming. I took out British Naturalisation last year.

thinfourth2

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233 months

Sunday 22nd February 2009
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Fittster said:
Jacqui Smith announced the tightening of the new points-based system after a series of wildcat walkouts by British workers protesting at jobs going to foreign migrants.

The moves come amid deepening concern among Labour backbenchers at the potency of claims that large numbers of foreign workers are entering the country at a time when tens of thousands of British workers are losing their jobs.
Of course no mention of the fact that since the pound has tumbled it isn't worth their while coming here anyway

AlexKP

16,484 posts

273 months

Sunday 22nd February 2009
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Eric Mc said:
I must have seen this coming. I took out British Naturalisation last year.
It's not too late to reverse it Eric.

I'd go for Norwegian next time if I were you.

Fittster

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Sunday 22nd February 2009
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playerone said:
So what about the New Zealand, Australian, South African, American etc etc workers who put British attitudes and work ethic to shame?

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I've seen no difference between people from Australian, South African, New Zealand and the UK in an office environment. Not worked with enough Yanks to comment.

Fittster

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Sunday 22nd February 2009
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thinfourth2 said:
Fittster said:
Jacqui Smith announced the tightening of the new points-based system after a series of wildcat walkouts by British workers protesting at jobs going to foreign migrants.

The moves come amid deepening concern among Labour backbenchers at the potency of claims that large numbers of foreign workers are entering the country at a time when tens of thousands of British workers are losing their jobs.
Of course no mention of the fact that since the pound has tumbled it isn't worth their while coming here anyway
Exchange rates move all the time, I wouldn't be surprised to see a few more devaluation before the credit crunch is over.