Labour is making the UK ill!!
Labour is making the UK ill!!
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Bing o

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15,184 posts

243 months

Tuesday 24th February 2009
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/7905734.stm



Article said:
There are currently over 2.5 million people with diabetes in the UK and there are more than half a million people with diabetes who have the condition and don't know it.

Type 2 diabetes usually appears in people over the age of 40, however, recently, more children are being diagnosed with the condition, some as young as seven....

According to Diabetes UK, statistics show that over 80% of people diagnosed with type 2 diabetes are overweight.

The NHS is spending £1m an hour - 10% of its yearly budget - treating diabetes and its complications, according to the charity.

scotal

8,751 posts

303 months

Tuesday 24th February 2009
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It was an exclusive club when I joined it, now it seems every fat fker in the country wants to be diabetic as well.


Iain328

14,602 posts

230 months

Tuesday 24th February 2009
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scotal said:
It was an exclusive club when I joined it, now it seems every fat fker in the country wants to be diabetic as well.
Probably cos they think they can get massive disability benefits from it rolleyes

dougc

8,240 posts

289 months

Tuesday 24th February 2009
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What a fking rubbish graph.

% per 1000 people? What sort of scale is that.

cs02rm0

13,816 posts

215 months

Tuesday 24th February 2009
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dougc said:
% per 1000 people? What sort of scale is that.
How's that any different than % per 100 people?

Andy Zarse

10,868 posts

271 months

Tuesday 24th February 2009
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cs02rm0 said:
dougc said:
% per 1000 people? What sort of scale is that.
How's that any different than % per 100 people?
It's ten times bigger?

dougc

8,240 posts

289 months

Tuesday 24th February 2009
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cs02rm0 said:
dougc said:
% per 1000 people? What sort of scale is that.
How's that any different than % per 100 people?
Because percent (per cent) is by definition the expression of a fraction of one hundred.

cs02rm0

13,816 posts

215 months

Tuesday 24th February 2009
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So, are they saying 5% of people get diabetes, or 5 in 100 * 1000 people get diabetes?

(Because at 2.5 million people that looks suspiciously like 5% to me).

Edited by cs02rm0 on Tuesday 24th February 15:42

Bing o

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15,184 posts

243 months

Tuesday 24th February 2009
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This is the BBC people - what do you expect?

However, it does show an increase that conincides with Labour's rise to power.

We're obviously giving chavs too much benefits if they are getting fat, and KFC are hiring!

sleep envy

62,260 posts

273 months

Tuesday 24th February 2009
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scotal said:
It was an exclusive club when I joined it, now it seems every fat fker in the country wants to be diabetic as well.
possibly because they think they can ga-ay out of tony's 5 penalty shots

dougc

8,240 posts

289 months

Tuesday 24th February 2009
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cs02rm0 said:
So, are they saying 5% of people get diabetes, or 5 in 100 * 1000 people get diabetes?
Who knows!

Why not just make it cases/1000 or a straightforward percentage measure?

I fear I may be making too much of this nerd

Racingdude009

5,303 posts

271 months

Tuesday 24th February 2009
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There is indeed a strong link between poverty and people suffering weight related health problems.

However prior to 1997 they were not many people using the internet or with Sky so people were more active.

Also driving costs have come down in recent years so people drive rather than walk.

scotal

8,751 posts

303 months

Tuesday 24th February 2009
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sleep envy said:
scotal said:
It was an exclusive club when I joined it, now it seems every fat fker in the country wants to be diabetic as well.
possibly because they think they can ga-ay out of tony's 5 penalty shots
Seems entirely appropriate to me. Wouldn't want to get ill now would they, these diabetics.


scotal

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303 months

Tuesday 24th February 2009
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Racingdude009 said:
Also driving costs have come down in recent years so people drive rather than walk.
Since 1997? you're fking kidding.

Gunny Sergeant D

2,248 posts

264 months

Tuesday 24th February 2009
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Racingdude009 said:
There is indeed a strong link between poverty and people suffering weight related health problems.

However prior to 1997 they were not many people using the internet or with Sky so people were more active.

Also driving costs have come down in recent years so people drive rather than walk.
This is what the RD is trying to say.

"we got elected in 97, fukk we haven't managed to do anything about poverty since we got in and it could be worse. Oh Sh¦t say anything! ..... err It was Thatcher, no um disease is Tory so there.

You are laughable.

Mojocvh

16,837 posts

286 months

Tuesday 24th February 2009
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mickken said:
Poor people eat rubbish, sugary food because it is marketed and priced that way
EFA

neil240970

184 posts

219 months

Tuesday 24th February 2009
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IMHO, awareness of type II diabetes is much higher and it's being screened and diagnosed much more than previously. Symptoms are pretty vague for the most part and, in the past, the typical person would shrug it off as being "under the weather" or being "a bit off colour". I know a guy who only got diagnosed because, following years of inactivity and overeating, his feet went completely numb. Only then did he go to the Doctor and get diagnosed.

Zod

35,295 posts

282 months

Tuesday 24th February 2009
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Racingdude009 said:
There is indeed a strong link between poverty and people suffering weight related health problems.

However prior to 1997 they were not many people using the internet or with Sky so people were more active.

Also driving costs have come down in recent years so people drive rather than walk.
Laughable.

There are more gyms now than in 1997. There is greater awareness of the health problems caused by bad diet and lack of exercise, due to the internet and television. It is purely the choice of the indolent Labour-voting or non-voting lumps to eat crap and take no exercise. Just look at their reaction to attempts to improve school meals.

In this country virtually nobody now drives a journey they would have walked in 1997.

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

279 months

Wednesday 25th February 2009
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Gunny Sergeant D said:
Racingdude009 said:
There is indeed a strong link between poverty and people suffering weight related health problems.

However prior to 1997 they were not many people using the internet or with Sky so people were more active.

Also driving costs have come down in recent years so people drive rather than walk.
This is what the RD is trying to say.

"we got elected in 97, fukk we haven't managed to do anything about poverty since we got in and it could be worse. Oh Sh¦t say anything! ..... err It was Thatcher, no um disease is Tory so there.

You are laughable.
Did he say driving costs have come down in recent years? He did, didn't he...?

derin100

5,217 posts

267 months

Wednesday 25th February 2009
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Professor Alan Maryon-Davis, president of the UK Faculty of Public Health, said: "Early detection and treatment are crucial. We must do whatever we can to find the half-million people who don't know they've got it." Rates of obesity and diabetes will continue to rise unless we do something urgently

What a load of f*cking w*nk!

I'm a jobbing, proper blood and guts (well hopefully not too many guts in my specialty!) consultant surgeon in the NHS.

The above is the typical rhetoric of "More Earnest Than Thou" Public Health-ists (read: I couldn't actually f*cking cut it as a proper doctor treating real people so instead I found a niche where I could pretend that I was making a difference for the greater good..then I wrote a load of half-arsed papers which got published in some obscure half-arsed Public Health Journal and then suddenly I found myself a "Professor of Public Health"...so I better make some er...erm..."Profess-ations"!!!)

The shocking thing is that people can get away with telling you 10% of your NHS Tax Pounds are being spent of diabetes and its consequences...and then collecting a salary for it! LOL!

"Oh what a fking surprise!"

Look...I'll tell you something for nothing (and maybe even the Government if they want to make me a Professor of Public Health and pay me! In fact, may be some decent fellows here will nominate me as such as and as a clear-thinking oasis of rationality in a desert of feather ear-ring wearing, lard-arsed Public Health-ists):

We're all human...not that far removed from dogs. You put enough easy food in front of dogs/us without much to stop dogs/us/chavs eating it and we're gonna eat it. Y

ou put enough FREE food in front of a load of Chavs...and they'll eat it, get obese and become diabetic.What a surprise!

There ya go...10% of your NHS budget explained in a sentence...Now where's my Professorship salary, please?!?

FFS!...This is fking human nature.

I spend most of my time treating head and neck cancer. I know what flipping causes it. And even I only stopped smoking 6 months ago and I've had a bottle of wine tonight! What flipping chance do these More-Earnest-Than-Thou idiot Public Health-ists think they have with your average Chav? Change their behaviour? bks!

Actually...that's the whole point though isn't it? Deep down they really know they're not going to make a blind bit of difference to anyone except themselves...and that's by carving a little niche for themselves, influencing government policy and then wasting even more of your £NHS over and above the already pointless salaries that you're already under-writing.


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Edited by derin100 on Wednesday 25th February 02:45