skip hire query

[shirt]

anyone here in the trade?

whats the largest skip i can hire to put rubble into?

also what is a reasonable hire price these days? just been quoted £175/day for an 8 cu.yd skip which i think is pretty steep. a 12cu.yd was £207 but i'm told i can't use one of those.


cheers. if you are in the trade and in east yorks drop me a pm.

[chris.mapey]

Depends on where the skip is going...

20yd RORO can be used for rubble. Bugger to get on the road / kerb side though

Size restrictions are usually down to a smaller truck being used to service the truck that can't cope (lift weigh or plated vehicle weight) with a large heavy bin.

Check the length of hire - usually it includes a weeks hire, and extra days can be negotiated for about £1 each.

The prices don't sound *too* bad but will be cheaper if you book the skip for inert waste (brick rubble) only and don't put anything else in it (but don't leave it overnight on the street then!!)

Hope that's OK - I can't get close to the prices as we charge a transport & tonnage rate!!

HTH (if indeed I have!)

[mrmaggit]

Generally 8 yard will be the maximium for hardcore, without going to 12 or 16 yard roll-on, roll-offs.

The problem is that the bigger the skip, the more weight could be put in it (obviously) and the lift rams are designed for a certain weight, plus a small allowance. I know the skip people we use their rams will lift 8-9 tons on their 4-wheel lorries.

[R4PID]

I hate skip firms. I rang one once and said "I want a skip outside my house" and the guy said "Well I'm not stopping you". Complete arses IMHO.

[shirt]

cheers chris re: pricing. i gathered the weight limit would be for the vehicle and don't want to think about the cost of the roro.

dilemma now is whether to pay £175 for a skip for the day or £65 for a lwb transit tipper for the weekend and reward myself for the hard work with a £100 night out

[john_p]

R4PID said:

I hate skip firms. I rang one once and said "I want a skip outside my house" and the guy said "Well I'm not stopping you". Complete arses IMHO.

[chris.mapey]

shirt said:

cheers chris re: pricing. i gathered the weight limit would be for the vehicle and don't want to think about the cost of the roro.

dilemma now is whether to pay £175 for a skip for the day or £65 for a lwb transit tipper for the weekend and reward myself for the hard work with a £100 night out

Likelihood is the RORO won't be much different in cost for transport, just more to dispose of hence a higher cost, but a lower cost per tonne for the job overall (if you see what I mean!)

[eddie1980]

I had a 25 Yard Domestic Mixed waste, RORO delivered Friday and removed Monday for £300

Managed to fill it on Saturday but was a little tired come that night.

[Digga]

If the project has a use for crushed rubble - i.e. hardcore/aggregate - then it is likely to be cheaper to recycle it on site with one of these:



You can hire them here : Mini Crusher Hire (there are a few in Yorkshire)

You can crush around 200 tonnes in a few days using 80 litres of diesel, whereas shifting with skips (you'd need quite a few) burns at least 180 litres.

Edited by Digga on Friday 27th February 15:11

[EDLT]

john_p said:

R4PID said:

I hate skip firms. I rang one once and said "I want a skip outside my house" and the guy said "Well I'm not stopping you". Complete arses IMHO.

And another

[shirt]

Digga said:

If the project has a use for crushed rubble - i.e. hardcore/aggregate - then it is likely to be cheaper to recycle it on site with one of these:



You can hire them here : Mini Crusher Hire (there are a few in Yorkshire)

You can crush around 200 tonnes in a few days using 80 litres of diesel, whereas shifting with skips (you'd need quite a few) burns at least 180 litres.

Edited by Digga on Friday 27th February 15:11

whilst a play with one of those would be fun, it'd be overkill! i've got about 10-12t of rubble and assorted crap acumulated from the project so far and i fear i'm going to be meeting mr & mrs rat and their kids over the course of the weekend.

too late for a permit now anyway, so its either a trip or 6 with a tail-lift drop-sider or a weekend doing naff all

[Digga]

shirt said:

Digga said:

If the project has a use for crushed rubble - i.e. hardcore/aggregate - then it is likely to be cheaper to recycle it on site with one of these:



You can hire them here : Mini Crusher Hire (there are a few in Yorkshire)

You can crush around 200 tonnes in a few days using 80 litres of diesel, whereas shifting with skips (you'd need quite a few) burns at least 180 litres.

Edited by Digga on Friday 27th February 15:11

whilst a play with one of those would be fun, it'd be overkill! i've got about 10-12t of rubble and assorted crap acumulated from the project so far and i fear i'm going to be meeting mr & mrs rat and their kids over the course of the weekend.

too late for a permit now anyway, so its either a trip or 6 with a tail-lift drop-sider or a weekend doing naff all

Yes, depending on the material, these things run at anything from about 5 to 15 tonnes per hour - so if it's good clean (i.e. not too much soil mixed in), dry rubble, you might not even be an hour crushing, but you'd have paid about £300 + VAT plus transport for the priveledge. You could also crush a few rats in there and , since it's got a 630 x 300mm jaw feed, the odd debtor too!

ETA a few words of wisdom on the broader subject:

1. Be very careful about moving any quantity of rubble in a commercial vehicle - technically you need a waste carrier's licence and the Enviro Officers are eagle eyed when it comes to enforcing this one.
2. Never be tempted to do a 'deal' with a mate/farmer/builder to 'tip' rubble on a site. It is treated as fly tipping and you can be fined up to £50k for any amount of waste illegally tipped.

Edited by Digga on Friday 27th February 15:25

Edited by Digga on Friday 27th February 15:27

[lawrence567]

& anything else uw anted crushing....
Hire it out to the local mobster - you could make the money back.

[Incorrigible]

We had to get rid of a bit (120 tonne) of soil and hardcore before Christmas

The most ecconomical method was get a grab lorry in periodically

[sleep envy]

shirt said:

cheers chris re: pricing. i gathered the weight limit would be for the vehicle and don't want to think about the cost of the roro.

dilemma now is whether to pay £175 for a skip for the day or £65 for a lwb transit tipper for the weekend and reward myself for the hard work with a £100 night out

where would you tip?

bear in mind that the local 'recycling centes' won't let you tip your load there and part of the cost of skip hire is land fill tax

[Digga]

Incorrigible said:

We had to get rid of a bit (120 tonne) of soil and hardcore before Christmas

The most ecconomical method was get a grab lorry in periodically

Yes, IIRC you get about 18 tonnes in an eight wheel grab lorry and there are people doing them (but only in some areas) for as little as £180 + VAT per load/trip. If it's good rubble then, once crushed, they'll be charging anything from £5 to £15 per tonne for that stuff too.

[shirt]

Digga said:

1. Be very careful about moving any quantity of rubble in a commercial vehicle - technically you need a waste carrier's licence and the Enviro Officers are eagle eyed when it comes to enforcing this one.
2. Never be tempted to do a 'deal' with a mate/farmer/builder to 'tip' rubble on a site. It is treated as fly tipping and you can be fined up to £50k for any amount of waste illegally tipped.

i always dump at the council waste depot, they've never given me any bother so far so long as its a hired van.

have got a verbal agreement for £75 for a 7.5t tail-lift for the weekend so will be dead come sunday.

yes i'm tight but i'd rather spend £100 on strippers next weekend than on a skip

[Incorrigible]

Digga said:

Incorrigible said:

We had to get rid of a bit (120 tonne) of soil and hardcore before Christmas

The most ecconomical method was get a grab lorry in periodically

Yes, IIRC you get about 18 tonnes in an eight wheel grab lorry and there are people doing them (but only in some areas) for as little as £180 + VAT per load/trip. If it's good rubble then, once crushed, they'll be charging anything from £5 to £15 per tonne for that stuff too.

Not that I'm an advocate of anything that means Darling doesn't get his cut but £100 cash for 20 tonne has been a number bandied about....

[shirt]

sleep envy said:

where would you tip?

bear in mind that the local 'recycling centes' won't let you tip your load there and part of the cost of skip hire is land fill tax

you need a permit from the council if you are using your own commercial vehicle, just to prove its not commercial waste. they are fine with hired vans.

probably different rules for different councils.

[Digga]

shirt said:

Digga said:

1. Be very careful about moving any quantity of rubble in a commercial vehicle - technically you need a waste carrier's licence and the Enviro Officers are eagle eyed when it comes to enforcing this one.
2. Never be tempted to do a 'deal' with a mate/farmer/builder to 'tip' rubble on a site. It is treated as fly tipping and you can be fined up to £50k for any amount of waste illegally tipped.

i always dump at the council waste depot, they've never given me any bother so far so long as its a hired van.

have got a verbal agreement for £75 for a 7.5t tail-lift for the weekend so will be dead come sunday.

yes i'm tight but i'd rather spend £100 on strippers next weekend than on a skip

I'd be really surprised if that's still the case. A lot of our smaller building and landscaping guys effectively work from home and I've been told now that if they try to take over 15 litres of oil - an oil change on a van, plus a couple of items of plant easily busts this - into these council sites they're turned away as being 'trade' waste.

Mind you it's East Yorks you;re tlaking about I guess. Went to my cousin's wedding in Beverley earlier this month and was pleasantly surprised how cheap taxis (and drinks for that matter) are there - 1990's prices!!!