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MK4 Slowride

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10,028 posts

231 months

Monday 2nd March 2009
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The wheel or a boat? Considering that a boat will use pulley wheels for the rigging etc then surely the wheel but then how big does a round thing have to be before it's a wheel?

mechsympathy

57,326 posts

278 months

Monday 2nd March 2009
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No rigging here:


rhinochopig

17,932 posts

221 months

Monday 2nd March 2009
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mechsympathy said:
No rigging here:

That's a floating wheel.

mechsympathy

57,326 posts

278 months

Monday 2nd March 2009
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rhinochopig said:
That's a floating wheel.
Yeah but, no but... Did they roll it first, or float it? tongue out

Simpo Two

91,364 posts

288 months

Monday 2nd March 2009
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MK4 Slowride said:
The wheel or a boat? Considering that a boat will use pulley wheels for the rigging etc then surely the wheel but then how big does a round thing have to be before it's a wheel?
You're over-defining 'boat'. The simplest boat is a dug-out canoe; after that the coracle and canoe. None need pulleys.

Uncle Fester

3,114 posts

231 months

Monday 2nd March 2009
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Early rigging didn't use pulleys, it used blocks.

A block is a piece of wood with a shaped hole in it.
The friction is much greater than a pulley and the pulley evolved from the blocks.

The wheel is predated by the roller. Sticking a log under something was probably the beginning and the wheel evolved from there.

The answer to your original question is likely to depend on how you define boat and wheel's.

Silverbullet767

11,035 posts

229 months

Monday 2nd March 2009
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The chicken.........

CaptainSlow

13,179 posts

235 months

Monday 2nd March 2009
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did the mx5 come before the boat?

pugwash4x4

7,651 posts

244 months

Monday 2nd March 2009
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what do you mean by wheel? or boat?

by wheel do you mean a purpose made disc running on an axle, or do you mean just something round like rollers?

by boat do you mean any contraption that can be used to cross water?

thinking about it, either wy it is likely to be a watercraft- polynesians and micronesians have crossed vast continents of water of many thousands of years- look at the kon tiki for example. The necessity for wheels only really came about with a nomadic lifestyle or a developed civilisation.

john2443

6,500 posts

234 months

Monday 2nd March 2009
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Simpo Two said:
MK4 Slowride said:
The wheel or a boat? Considering that a boat will use pulley wheels for the rigging etc then surely the wheel but then how big does a round thing have to be before it's a wheel?
You're over-defining 'boat'. The simplest boat is a dug-out canoe; after that the coracle and canoe. None need pulleys.
I guess the simplist boat was a log, which when the paddler fell off a few times he realised that (if he invented a hollowing out tool!) he could make into a dug-out canoe.

Unless one of his mates nicked his log to use it as a roller...

GreenDog

2,261 posts

215 months

Monday 2nd March 2009
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But if you were to put a 747 on a roller .........

HappyGoLucky

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235 months

Monday 2nd March 2009
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GreenDog said:
But if you were to put a 747 on a roller ......... powered by a mapped 330d