Approached by CSA about employee - dilema.

[Landlord]

We've recently received a letter from the CSA (who I thought were defunct, by the way ) stating;

"Please do not pass this letter onto the employee named below."

Now - aside from my own opinions of the CSA - I know this employee well, and have a great deal of respect for the employee as an individual. I feel morally duty bound, for the reasons just given, to tell said employee about the letter - for no other reason than to enable them to prepare themselves for what may be to come. However, will I be breaking any laws in doing so? I am conscious that the sentence above starts with "Please do not" rather than "You must not" or some legal directive - from which I'd deduce that there is no legal imperative to do so.

There are legal responsibilities set out elsewhere in the letter (no lies please and no witholding information) which I have no intention of breaching.

I'm just struggling with not telling, what is a very decent human being, that they are about to be pursued for money. Now, I temper this, of course, with only knowing their side of the story but I have no reason to doubt the story given to me.

What would you do? What have you done? Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Phil.

[deevlash]

I'd tell him, for all you know the CSA might just be some annoying spam mail agency

[jessica]

Landlord said:

We've recently received a letter from the CSA (who I thought were defunct, by the way ) stating;

"Please do not pass this letter onto the employee named below."

Now - aside from my own opinions of the CSA - I know this employee well, and have a great deal of respect for the employee as an individual. I feel morally duty bound, for the reasons just given, to tell said employee about the letter - for no other reason than to enable them to prepare themselves for what may be to come. However, will I be breaking any laws in doing so? I am conscious that the sentence above starts with "Please do not" rather than "You must not" or some legal directive - from which I'd deduce that there is no legal imperative to do so.

There are legal responsibilities set out elsewhere in the letter (no lies please and no witholding information) which I have no intention of breaching.

I'm just struggling with not telling, what is a very decent human being, that they are about to be pursued for money. Now, I temper this, of course, with only knowing their side of the story but I have no reason to doubt the story given to me.

What would you do? What have you done? Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Phil.

If they have contacted you then the probability is that he is not paying maintenance for HIS children. in which case i dont feel he deserves one second of worry regarding forwarning. Most honest women would only get CSA involved when they are in desperate circumstances regarding looking after the children of a relationship/marriage.

[2 sMoKiN bArReLs]

I tell mine every time.

[Brown and Boris]

Landlord said:

We've recently received a letter from the CSA (who I thought were defunct, by the way ) stating;

"Please do not pass this letter onto the employee named below."

Now - aside from my own opinions of the CSA - I know this employee well, and have a great deal of respect for the employee as an individual. I feel morally duty bound, for the reasons just given, to tell said employee about the letter - for no other reason than to enable them to prepare themselves for what may be to come. However, will I be breaking any laws in doing so? I am conscious that the sentence above starts with "Please do not" rather than "You must not" or some legal directive - from which I'd deduce that there is no legal imperative to do so.

There are legal responsibilities set out elsewhere in the letter (no lies please and no witholding information) which I have no intention of breaching.

I'm just struggling with not telling, what is a very decent human being, that they are about to be pursued for money. Now, I temper this, of course, with only knowing their side of the story but I have no reason to doubt the story given to me.

What would you do? What have you done? Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Phil.

I would tell him. I think that unless there is a legal reason or power the CSA have to stop you, if it is part of his personal payroll record he can see it anyway. Sure it's not his ex?

[Kaelic]

Leave it on your desk and ontop of some documents you want him to collect for you!

Prewarn him there is something he must not look at etc....

[King Herald]

Landlord said:

We've recently received a letter from the CSA (who I thought were defunct, by the way ) stating;

"Please do not pass this letter onto the employee named below."

Now - aside from my own opinions of the CSA - I know this employee well, and have a great deal of respect for the employee as an individual. I feel morally duty bound, for the reasons just given, to tell said employee about the letter - for no other reason than to enable them to prepare themselves for what may be to come. However, will I be breaking any laws in doing so? I am conscious that the sentence above starts with "Please do not" rather than "You must not" or some legal directive - from which I'd deduce that there is no legal imperative to do so.

There are legal responsibilities set out elsewhere in the letter (no lies please and no witholding information) which I have no intention of breaching.

I'm just struggling with not telling, what is a very decent human being, that they are about to be pursued for money. Now, I temper this, of course, with only knowing their side of the story but I have no reason to doubt the story given to me.

What would you do? What have you done? Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Phil.

Bearing in mind the CSA is historically monumentally incompetent and probably won't remember even sending you the letter, I'd have a quiet word in the employees ear.

[bigandclever]

I suspect you're being a little naive assuming he doesn't already know the CSA are after him. Going to an employer is miles down the road of retrieving money.

[Kaelic]

jessica said:

Landlord said:

We've recently received a letter from the CSA (who I thought were defunct, by the way ) stating;

"Please do not pass this letter onto the employee named below."

Now - aside from my own opinions of the CSA - I know this employee well, and have a great deal of respect for the employee as an individual. I feel morally duty bound, for the reasons just given, to tell said employee about the letter - for no other reason than to enable them to prepare themselves for what may be to come. However, will I be breaking any laws in doing so? I am conscious that the sentence above starts with "Please do not" rather than "You must not" or some legal directive - from which I'd deduce that there is no legal imperative to do so.

There are legal responsibilities set out elsewhere in the letter (no lies please and no witholding information) which I have no intention of breaching.

I'm just struggling with not telling, what is a very decent human being, that they are about to be pursued for money. Now, I temper this, of course, with only knowing their side of the story but I have no reason to doubt the story given to me.

What would you do? What have you done? Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Phil.

If they have contacted you then the probability is that he is not paying maintenance for HIS children. in which case i dont feel he deserves one second of worry regarding forwarning. Most honest women would only get CSA involved when they are in desperate circumstances regarding looking after the children of a relationship/marriage.

Or when their new partner wants to buy a BMW 1 series in silver with extra trims.......


Oh and they forget to inform the CSA about all the money your brother has paid her in previous years despite not being able to see or contact his own daughter....

SWT's

[Landlord]

jessica said:

If they have contacted you then the probability is that he is not paying maintenance for HIS children. in which case i dont feel he deserves one second of worry regarding forwarning. Most honest women would only get CSA involved when they are in desperate circumstances regarding looking after the children of a relationship/marriage.

Three posts in. Quicker than I expected, but still not a surprise.

As mentioned - I know him and his side of the story, plus I have witnessed how his ex. behaves. "Most honest women" doesn't categorise her. All of which leads to me to dismiss the above as biased trivia. Sorry.

[Plotloss]

Have a quiet word I say.

Be aware however you may lose an employee to another EU nation as a result.

[Landlord]

bigandclever said:

I suspect you're being a little naive assuming he doesn't already know the CSA are after him.

Entirely possible!

There's been a couple of events recently that lead me to believe that he's being played more than he realises.

[Landlord]

Kaelic said:

Leave it on your desk and ontop of some documents you want him to collect for you!

Prewarn him there is something he must not look at etc....

Sneaky.


Thanks for the replies and opinions everyone. To be honest, it's only going to be a legal impediment that will stop me telling him.

[Brown and Boris]

jessica said:

Landlord said:

If they have contacted you then the probability is that he is not paying maintenance for HIS children. in which case i dont feel he deserves one second of worry regarding forwarning. Most honest women would only get CSA involved when they are in desperate circumstances regarding looking after the children of a relationship/marriage.

Revenge is as prevalent as need IMHO. Mine almost wet herself when I suggested my son come live with me and she pay me maintenace and disregarded the £350 a month I was paying to our daughter at Uni in some sort of 'that doesn't count because it is voluntary' moment.

Rather naive view of the motivations of those going to the CSA there!

[missdiane]

Yeah I would tell him

If your employee is being stitched up by the ex,

was the letter sent recorded delivery?

what letter?

[Landlord]

missdiane said:

what letter?

I'm shocked by the sneaky behaviour of some of PH's finest!!

:offtochecktheenvelope:

[cazzer]

My best mates psycho ex took him to the CSA after he had almost bankrupted himself sending most of his salary to the cow every month.
Not enough as far as she was concerned when he got married again.
In the end, his MP recommended he got divorced from his current wife and then they live together as she'd then get equal status to his psycho ex.

So not, not only decent women go down that route.

[bigTee]

i always tell.

it's got fk all to do with the CSA if you tell them or not and they have no right in asking you to keep it from your guy.

fking CSA make me so mad.

[mechsympathy]

Landlord said:

Kaelic said:

Leave it on your desk and ontop of some documents you want him to collect for you!

Prewarn him there is something he must not look at etc....

Sneaky.

But safer for you.

Landlord said:

Thanks for the replies and opinions everyone. To be honest, it's only going to be a legal impediment that will stop me telling him.

As you say it asks you not to, rather than telling you. It's like the highway code spelling out laws with a "must". Anything else is guidance

[bigTee]

by the way,

my CSA forms still say my kid was born in 1897.

they have no idea what they send out. fk em. the fking wk st toss fk pigs of a bh tt fks.

Edited by bigTee on Tuesday 3rd March 19:59