Cyclists on Pavements
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Rags

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3,667 posts

252 months

Wednesday 4th March 2009
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Has Cycling on Pavements suddenly become acceptable?

Just had one c0ckend of a cyclist tell me to be more aware and get out of the way otherwise he might hit me next time...but then I called him a brainless fool and to grow some balls and cycle on the road...This was after he brushed past me at speed whilst I was walking ON THE PAVENEMT....

How was I at fault?


What are you expected to do, grow a pair of eyes on the back of your head or constantly look round as if you are expecting a stalker or Jabba the Hut behind you?

I am a cyclist and use the road, so why can't everyone else?

jkennyd

3,141 posts

215 months

Wednesday 4th March 2009
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Carry a stick and as they pass shove it through a wheel then laugh your face off as they tumble along the pavement.

Justin_Tvr

574 posts

201 months

Wednesday 4th March 2009
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My favourite is trying to walk into cyclists that seem to think they have the right by going through red lights, I seem to think I might come off worse though enjoy proving a point.

ShadownINja

78,730 posts

298 months

Wednesday 4th March 2009
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Rags said:
grow some balls and cycle on the road...
hehe

natcot

133 posts

210 months

Wednesday 4th March 2009
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Jabba the Hut, on a bike, on the pavement! Now that i'd like to see!

You were in the wrong because you missed the opportunity of allowing your elbow to connect with his face as he brushed past! Time to work on your spidey senses me thinks!

Dugiet

279 posts

200 months

Wednesday 4th March 2009
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natcot said:
Jabba the Hut, on a bike, on the pavement! Now that i'd like to see!
Cant picture it myself

EdJ

1,370 posts

211 months

Wednesday 4th March 2009
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Rags said:
Has Cycling on Pavements suddenly become acceptable?

Just had one c0ckend of a cyclist tell me to be more aware and get out of the way otherwise he might hit me next time...but then I called him a brainless fool and to grow some balls and cycle on the road...This was after he brushed past me at speed whilst I was walking ON THE PAVENEMT....

How was I at fault?


What are you expected to do, grow a pair of eyes on the back of your head or constantly look round as if you are expecting a stalker or Jabba the Hut behind you?

I am a cyclist and use the road, so why can't everyone else?
Why is it with cycling that if people see one example of bad behaviour, they immediately apply it to all cyclists?

Clearly this particular cyclist was a cock. So unless you have seen a number of similar cocks on the pavement, I suggest that it hasn't become acceptable and you were just unlucky. Either that or perhaps you were not on the pavement after all?

Here in London, in my experience, cycling on the pavement is very rare and frowned upon.

Dugiet

279 posts

200 months

Wednesday 4th March 2009
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EdJ said:
Why is it with cycling that if people see one example of bad behaviour, they immediately apply it to all cyclists?
If that where the case he would be calling himself a c0ck too, he clearly states he cycles too..

Hypermonkey

273 posts

203 months

Wednesday 4th March 2009
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It is actually illegal to ride on the pavement........

"Cycling on footways (a pavement at the side of a carriageway) is prohibited by Section 72 of the Highway Act 1835, amended by Section 85(1) of the Local Government Act 1888. This is punishable by a fixed penalty notice of £30 under Section 51 and Schedule 3 of the Road Traffic Offenders Act 1988.

Cyclists have no right to cycle on a footpath away from the road but only commit an offence where local by-laws or traffic regulation orders create such an offence."

I'm a bus driver...settle!..and the amount of stupidity I see regarding cyclists is escalating. Red lights mean nothing to them and the frequency that they go through them into traffic with the right of way scares me. At night the amount that have no lights, wear dark clothing, and don't check to see what's behind them when moving to overtake parked cars/change lanes has also risen in my experience.
If you are going to use the road use it correctly as you are extremely vulnerable!

Edited by Hypermonkey on Wednesday 4th March 09:32

Soft Top

1,473 posts

234 months

Wednesday 4th March 2009
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Justin_Tvr said:
My favourite is trying to walk into cyclists that seem to think they have the right by going through red lights, I seem to think I might come off worse though enjoy proving a point.
This is so annoying. Some even just breeze through as if there were no lights there at all. They obviously don't think the rules of the road apply to them.

Dugiet

279 posts

200 months

Wednesday 4th March 2009
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Hypermonkey said:
It is actually illegal to ride on the pavement........

"Cycling on footways (a pavement at the side of a carriageway) is prohibited by Section 72 of the Highway Act 1835, amended by Section 85(1) of the Local Government Act 1888. This is punishable by a fixed penalty notice of £30 under Section 51 and Schedule 3 of the Road Traffic Offenders Act 1988.

Cyclists have no right to cycle on a footpath away from the road but only commit an offence where local by-laws or traffic regulation orders create such an offence."

I'm a bus driver...settle!..and the amount of stupidity I see regarding cyclists is escalating. Red lights mean nothing to them and the frequency that they go through them into traffic with the right of way scares me. At night the amount that have no lights, wear dark clothing, and don't check to see what's behind them when moving to overtake parked cars/change lanes has also risen in my experience.
If you are going to use the road use it correctly as you are extremely vulnerable!

Edited by Hypermonkey on Wednesday 4th March 09:32
Well this only applies to people who have no road knowledge.

Slikk

2,135 posts

259 months

Wednesday 4th March 2009
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Rags said:
ON THE PAVENEMT....

arryb

10,911 posts

218 months

Wednesday 4th March 2009
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I'm a cyclist and really hate cyclists who decide that they are allowed to use the pavement mad I usually just don't bother moving, they're not going to hit you at speed if you don't move because they've slowed down to pass you!!

DrTre

12,957 posts

248 months

Wednesday 4th March 2009
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In vague defence of cyclists (not that this was the case here) but where cycle lanes are marked on pavements it does seem that pedestrians really haven't a clue of their presence.
ETA some peds, not all. I'm not generalising.

Edited by DrTre on Wednesday 4th March 09:52

silent k

783 posts

247 months

Wednesday 4th March 2009
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Hypermonkey said:
At night the amount that have no lights, wear dark clothing, and don't check to see what's behind them when moving to overtake parked cars/change lanes has also risen in my experience.
If you are going to use the road use it correctly as you are extremely vulnerable!

Edited by Hypermonkey on Wednesday 4th March 09:32
Your right with what you say, apart from shouldn't the person who's overtaking the cyclist assume the cyclist is going to go past the parked cars anyway and make allowances? After all they are the one overtaking the cyclist? If you were following a car wouldn't you assume is going to go round parked cars and not overtake them as they are doing it? Why is it any different for a cyclist?

Edited by silent k on Wednesday 4th March 09:55

Eddh

4,656 posts

208 months

Wednesday 4th March 2009
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jkennyd said:
Carry a stick and as they pass shove it through a wheel then laugh your face off as they tumble along the pavement.
laugh

Do this.

JagLover

44,989 posts

251 months

Wednesday 4th March 2009
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I think the rights and wrongs of cycling on the pavement depend on the location (regardless of what the highway code says).

Riding on the pavement besides a busy dual carriageway say is safer, and more considerate for road users. While riding on the pavement through a busy high street is a definite no no.


Hypermonkey

273 posts

203 months

Wednesday 4th March 2009
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silent k said:
Your right with what you say, apart from shouldn't the person who's overtaking the cyclist assume the cyclist is going to go past the parked cars anyway and make allowances? After all they are the one overtaking the cyclist? If you were following a car wouldn't you assume is going to go round parked cars and not overtake them as they are doing it? Why is it any different for a cyclist?
I personally do assume they are going to overtake parked vehicles but have seen cyclists in the left of the road just turn right to enter a side road/get to the shop etc. I do also feel that drivers should be more aware as you mentioned. Bring back the old 'cycling proficiency test' I say smile

Mr E

22,520 posts

275 months

Wednesday 4th March 2009
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DrTre said:
In vague defence of cyclists (not that this was the case here) but where cycle lanes are marked on pavements it does seem that pedestrians really haven't a clue of their presence.
ETA some peds, not all. I'm not generalising.
Indeed. Many years ago I was cruising down a cycle lane when an elderly lady stepped out in front of me. I did everything in my power to avoid hitting her, which basically meant throwing myself down the tarmac. And as I lay there, she berated me for cycling on the pavement.

She was standing on the big white "bike" symbol painted on the floor at the time...

otolith

62,133 posts

220 months

Wednesday 4th March 2009
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silent k said:
Hypermonkey said:
At night the amount that have no lights, wear dark clothing, and don't check to see what's behind them when moving to overtake parked cars/change lanes has also risen in my experience.
Your right with what you say, apart from shouldn't the person who's overtaking the cyclist assume the cyclist is going to go past the parked cars anyway and make allowances?
Amazing how many drivers lack the imagination to understand that the bike is going to go around the parked cars and not through them. Also amazing how many cyclists haven't worked that out and taken a defensive position in the road - they're the ones who are going to get hurt, whoever is at fault. Shoulder check and move out early for me.