Savers and the interest rate cuts
Savers and the interest rate cuts
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ipitythefool

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13,193 posts

264 months

Thursday 5th March 2009
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So lots of savers are up in arms about interest rate cuts, and throwing stats around about the ratio of savers to borrowers (conveniently ignoring the ratio of saving to borrowing in monetary terms).

There's complaints from people who use the interest from savings to fund their lifestyles. And complaints thyat because of low rates they are eating into the principle.

So what? What on earth is wrong with eating into the principle? What are you going to do with it anyway? It'll either get taken by the council to pay for old age care, or a large chunk will go in inheritance tax.

If you have £100K in savings and you are used to having £5k in income from it, then to maintain that income for the next 2 years (assuming rates stay low that long) then you'll be down to £90K on the principle. Is that such a big deal??

spikeyhead

18,929 posts

213 months

Thursday 5th March 2009
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If it's such a small deal to you, give me £5k a year.

jesusbuiltmycar

4,883 posts

270 months

Thursday 5th March 2009
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What about pensioners who rely on evry bit of extra income? 5K may be nothing to you but not everyone is that well off.

anonymous-user

70 months

Thursday 5th March 2009
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Who says they are all old?

Of course savers are going to be unhappy in exactly the same way someone with a large mortgage would be unhappy at 16% interest rates.

Pointless post!

Catz

4,819 posts

227 months

Thursday 5th March 2009
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Yes it is a big deal!

Be sensible, save money, only buy what you can afford, etc. I sometimes wonder if I'd have been better just squandering it all and living off credit cards.

richyb

4,615 posts

226 months

Thursday 5th March 2009
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Not exactly what your talking about but I find it frustrating as a regular guy with an average income who saves for a house, holidays, cars etc that interest rates are set incredibly low to counteract problems partially caused by people who have massively over extended themselves. There is always going to be a winners and losers with interest rates and people are entitled to be happy or annoyed at their financial situations.

NoelWatson

11,710 posts

258 months

Thursday 5th March 2009
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ipitythefool said:
eating into the principle.
What principle?

birdcage

2,873 posts

221 months

Thursday 5th March 2009
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I cant see why anyone with savings does not buy a buy to let with a decent yield on a offset mortgage at 6%...

anonymous-user

70 months

Thursday 5th March 2009
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NoelWatson said:
ipitythefool said:
eating into the principle.
What principle?
I think the deluded fool means Capital wink

hugoagogo

23,416 posts

249 months

Thursday 5th March 2009
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ipitythefool said:
There's complaints from people who use the interest from savings to fund their lifestyles. And complaints thyat because of low rates they are eating into the principle.
silly fkers, low rates mean the principle isn't shrinking in real value, high interest rates would be eating into it even more

UncappedTag

2,102 posts

201 months

Thursday 5th March 2009
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I'm yet to see who these latest drops benefit.

I'm on a tracker mortgage I took out in Dec 2007 8bps above base.

Unfortunately I did not read every piece of small print but it has a 2.5% floor. Nationwide suck!

So not only is my online savings suffering, but I'm not benefiting on my mortgage either.

FrankDrebbin

202 posts

199 months

Thursday 5th March 2009
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ipotythefool - it's easy to understand why savers are really pissed off right now. All you have to do is save a large sum of money, and watch it earn less that 1% interest while inflation runs at about 5. Trust me, every time the news comes out that us savers are being punished to try and bail out those wkers that ran out of cheap credit it's another reason to hope they all suffer huge depreciation on their motors, and that their homes are reposessed, having failed to make payments on loans secured on them. That way, I can use my non intrest generating bank balance to get a decent gaff, and / or an upgrade to a mk2 996.

NoelWatson

11,710 posts

258 months

Thursday 5th March 2009
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birdcage said:
I cant see why anyone with savings does not buy a buy to let with a decent yield on a offset mortgage at 6%...
Really?

NoelWatson

11,710 posts

258 months

Thursday 5th March 2009
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hugoagogo said:
ipitythefool said:
There's complaints from people who use the interest from savings to fund their lifestyles. And complaints thyat because of low rates they are eating into the principle.
silly fkers, low rates mean the principle isn't shrinking in real value, high interest rates would be eating into it even more
Don't understand. Do you mean inflation?

J-Skid

1,099 posts

274 months

Thursday 5th March 2009
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spikeyhead said:
If it's such a small deal to you, give me £5k a year.
Okay, so long as you pay me the £2k per month my mortgage has gone down by :-)

Catz

4,819 posts

227 months

Thursday 5th March 2009
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birdcage said:
I cant see why anyone with savings does not buy a buy to let with a decent yield on a offset mortgage at 6%...
We are thinking about buying a property to let out but aren't sure whether to buy outright or mortgage. Have read a bit about offset mortgages but don't really understand them. confused

Also need to look into capital gains tax issues if we sell in say 5 years.

youngsyr

14,742 posts

208 months

Thursday 5th March 2009
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FrankDrebbin said:
ipotythefool - it's easy to understand why savers are really pissed off right now. All you have to do is save a large sum of money, and watch it earn less that 1% interest while inflation runs at about 5...
CPI was 3% in January, RPI was 0.1%.

http://www.mortgagestrategy.co.uk/cgi-bin/item.cgi...

NoelWatson

11,710 posts

258 months

Thursday 5th March 2009
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Catz said:
Also need to look into capital gains tax issues if we sell in say 5 years.
I don't think you will need to worry about that

anonymous-user

70 months

Thursday 5th March 2009
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NoelWatson said:
Catz said:
Also need to look into capital gains tax issues if we sell in say 5 years.
I don't think you will need to worry about that
rofl

Catz

4,819 posts

227 months

Thursday 5th March 2009
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NoelWatson said:
Catz said:
Also need to look into capital gains tax issues if we sell in say 5 years.
I don't think you will need to worry about that
Haha!

Ok if we sell in 15 years then.