All this money comes along suddenly...
All this money comes along suddenly...
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randomman

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2,215 posts

205 months

Friday 6th March 2009
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I have just been thinking (very dangerous on a Friday) if we have summoned up the ability to give banks and business 80 billion and print another billion and can afford to pay fred-the-shred's pension then why couldn't we do some little things before?

Like:

Fix the shambles that is the NHS

Sort out public transport

Reduce taxs

Build new prisons (and used them!)

Help under funded schools

It seems to me that the 100 odd billion that we have wasted on the banks could have fixed all the above with change to spare. Surely if they had have done all the above then wky mcfknut the alocoholic sheep shagger would have secured re-election?

Fittster

20,120 posts

229 months

Friday 6th March 2009
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We have more money, not more wealth.

Tony*T3

20,911 posts

263 months

Friday 6th March 2009
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randomman said:
I have just been thinking (very dangerous on a Friday) if we have summoned up the ability to give banks and business 80 billion and print another billion and can afford to pay fred-the-shred's pension then why couldn't we do some little things before?

Like:

Fix the shambles that is the NHS

Sort out public transport

Reduce taxs

Build new prisons (and used them!)

Help under funded schools

It seems to me that the 100 odd billion that we have wasted on the banks could have fixed all the above with change to spare. Surely if they had have done all the above then wky mcfknut the alocoholic sheep shagger would have secured re-election?
Because it will all need funding, and the only funding a government has is the tax payer.

JRM

2,063 posts

248 months

Friday 6th March 2009
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randomman said:
I have just been thinking (very dangerous on a Friday) if we have summoned up the ability to give banks and business 80 billion and print another billion and can afford to pay fred-the-shred's pension then why couldn't we do some little things before?

Like:

Fix the shambles that is the NHS

Sort out public transport

Reduce taxs

Build new prisons (and used them!)

Help under funded schools

It seems to me that the 100 odd billion that we have wasted on the banks could have fixed all the above with change to spare. Surely if they had have done all the above then wky mcfknut the alocoholic sheep shagger would have secured re-election?
He's already wasted spent millions on new hospitals and schools and already blown the budget substatially, that's why it's so hard to dig ourselves out of the banking mess. No gold reserve, high debt levels etc tec, if he had been more prudent, then the bank bail out wouldn't have required quant easing

vxr8mate

1,687 posts

205 months

Friday 6th March 2009
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All this money the banks have received is borowed against future tax reciepts, so the more he throws at them means the longer we will be paying it off!

elster

17,517 posts

226 months

Friday 6th March 2009
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randomman said:
I have just been thinking (very dangerous on a Friday) if we have summoned up the ability to give banks and business 80 billion and print another billion and can afford to pay fred-the-shred's pension then why couldn't we do some little things before?

Like:

Fix the shambles that is the NHS

Sort out public transport

Reduce taxs

Build new prisons (and used them!)

Help under funded schools

It seems to me that the 100 odd billion that we have wasted on the banks could have fixed all the above with change to spare. Surely if they had have done all the above then wky mcfknut the alocoholic sheep shagger would have secured re-election?
Well to fix the NHS, they have to be able to sack half the people. They are government employees on a good deal, who can vote.

Public transport, well once again mainly bad decisions. I mean they got rid of the best provider (GNER) and replaced it with quite possibly one of the worst providers. Network Rail is still old BR staff, so therefore the standards are just as low, and everything is slow going. Why make a contract finish on time? When they will keep paying you no matter how long you make it last. Can't comment on buses as don't know anything about them.

They still need to raise funds.

Well that would mean locking guilty people up.

Good point on schools, however it isn't the money that is needed. It is the quality staff really. A lot of the poor performing schools are quite well funded now. But until teachers are used to actually teach not help people pass an exam, the system will be flawed.

But I have to agree, I think they would have been better off letting the banks go to the wall and getting the administrators in.

jeff m

4,066 posts

274 months

Friday 6th March 2009
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Unfortunately when you give money to sections of society that that don't have to earn it they don't spend it the same as someone that has.

Government department, you have six weeks until end of fiscal and you still have funds. If you don't spend it, even go a little over then your allocation for next year may get reduced.

Private company, you are expected to produce and run your deptment inline with the projected cost.

When a small company borrows money it does so with great care, the banks usually want personal guarantees from Directors co signed by spouse even.
You put a lot on the line.

Might be nice if some of these politicians were made to guarantee the loans they make. Dreaming aren't Ibiggrin

I'd just love to be able to run a business using income from somebody else and then if that isn't enough to get by on, I could use their credit card which has no credit limit.
I'd be able to expand into giving services that nobody wants, pay myself and other directors whatever I think I can get away with, with the rest as allowances. If I could manage in some way to get control of the police force I could also prevent them from complaining or demonstrating against what I do.

Crap.....too late.....somebody has already done it.

Brown and Boris

11,838 posts

251 months

Friday 6th March 2009
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jeff m said:
Government department, you have six weeks until end of fiscal and you still have funds. If you don't spend it, even go a little over then your allocation for next year may get reduced.


So right.

I have put in three govt. and quango tenders this last 2 weeks, all wanting work that should take 3-6 month delivered by April 5th. The ones that are not are tendering projects top be done by 5/4 ae trying to get them contracted by 5/4, I presume to keep that budget.

All these jobs cannot be done properly in a month, so they will get a rushed, expensive (because everyone knows they have the money and little time to scrutinise the tenders), half-arsed job done.