Anyone good at mathematics?
Anyone good at mathematics?
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HOGEPH

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Friday 6th March 2009
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How would I work out the 4 areas of a circle divided into 4 slices horizontally?


Mattygooner

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Friday 6th March 2009
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HOGEPH said:
How would I work out the 4 areas of a circle divided into 4 slices horizontally?
Tell them they will get the piece of cake their bloody well given!

JJCW

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Friday 6th March 2009
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Paint picture needed :P

escargot

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Friday 6th March 2009
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Mattygooner said:
HOGEPH said:
How would I work out the 4 areas of a circle divided into 4 slices horizontally?
Tell them they will get the piece of cake their bloody well given!
hehe

elster

17,517 posts

226 months

Friday 6th March 2009
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I know how to work out the areas.

But how do you mean sliced horizontally?

Silent1

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Friday 6th March 2009
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HOGEPH

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Friday 6th March 2009
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JJCW said:
Paint picture needed :P
A description will have to suffice.

Draw a circle

Draw a line on the diameter, dividing the circle in half horizontally.

In each of the semi-circles, draw a horizontal line, crossing the point at half the radius.

The area of the piece below the diameter is larger than the bottom slice, but how do I work out the two different areas?

voyds9

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Friday 6th March 2009
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How accurate does it need to be. Would the area of the 4 approximate rhomboids be close enough.

RichBurley

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Friday 6th March 2009
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elster said:
I know how to work out the areas.

But how do you mean sliced horizontally?
The OP means 3 evenly spaced lines.

HOGEPH

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Friday 6th March 2009
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voyds9 said:
How accurate does it need to be. Would the area of the 4 approximate rhomboids be close enough.
Yes, for the purpose I need, but from a theory point, I guess there must be some sort of formula that is related to the radius and distance of the chord from the diameter.

turbobloke

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HOGEPH

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Friday 6th March 2009
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turbobloke said:
Thank you!

dougc

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Friday 6th March 2009
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Google for a formula for calculating the area of a circle segment - I can't remember it off the top of my head.

Presuming that you know that all 4 area sectors are the same you'll only need to work out one.

ETA - Dammit too slow!

Edited by dougc on Friday 6th March 14:33

bitwrx

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Friday 6th March 2009
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Basic principal is:

Work out area of segment.
Subtract the area of the triangular bit of the segment.

This gives you the area of the sector (the bit bounded by the perimeter and the chord [which is the horizontal line of which you speak]).

How you work out the area of the segment will depend on which numbers you already know. There are calculators out there to do it, but I'm having trouble finding a decent one at the mo.

I think I've understood you correctly. HTH.

ETA. Must type faster, but here's a calculator

Edited by bitwrx on Friday 6th March 14:39

cheshire_cat

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201 months

Friday 6th March 2009
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bitwrx said:
Basic principal is:

Work out area of segment.
Subtract the area of the triangular bit of the segment.

This gives you the area of the sector (the bit bounded by the perimeter and the chord [which is the horizontal line of which you speak]).

How you work out the area of the segment will depend on which numbers you already know. There are calculators out there to do it, but I'm having trouble finding a decent one at the mo.

I think I've understood you correctly. HTH.

ETA. Must type faster, but here's a calculator

Edited by bitwrx on Friday 6th March 14:39
How does one work out the length of the chord?

4hero

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Friday 6th March 2009
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Silent1 said:
hehe

elster

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Friday 6th March 2009
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Would have asked for numbers, but it seems you have the formulae now.

turbobloke

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Friday 6th March 2009
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cheshire_cat said:
How does one work out the length of the chord?
If you know the length of two sides (r) and the angle subtended at the centre by the chord, you could use the cosine rule.

cheshire_cat

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Friday 6th March 2009
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turbobloke said:
cheshire_cat said:
How does one work out the length of the chord?
If you know the length of two sides (r) and the angle subtended at the centre by the chord, you could use the cosine rule.
But the point is, surely without drawing and measuring, you wouldn't?

turbobloke

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Friday 6th March 2009
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cheshire_cat said:
turbobloke said:
cheshire_cat said:
How does one work out the length of the chord?
If you know the length of two sides (r) and the angle subtended at the centre by the chord, you could use the cosine rule.
But the point is, surely without drawing and measuring, you wouldn't?
Depends - on what the total information in the question is, or what the problem is trying to solve. That's why I said "if".