Iv inherited an Enfield Musketoon, what can you tell me?
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So, my mum recently had a housefire and in the process of emptying the house for the contractors to move in we came across an old Musketoon that i beleive came frome my grandad. He was an avid gun collector and must have passed it on to my dad who inturn stashed it under some insulation at the back of our loft!
Hes sadly not around anymore and never told anybody about it. Its a mint, boxed 1861 Enfield Musketoon, recreated by Parker Hale. and thats all that i know about it!
Id be very greatfull if somebody could advise me the best way to move it on, im no expert but i cant see any reason why it wouldnt work. Which makes me a little uneasy about haveing it around.
Anybody got an idea if its worth anything? How to get rid of it? What the law would say?
Thanks, mitch
Hes sadly not around anymore and never told anybody about it. Its a mint, boxed 1861 Enfield Musketoon, recreated by Parker Hale. and thats all that i know about it!
Id be very greatfull if somebody could advise me the best way to move it on, im no expert but i cant see any reason why it wouldnt work. Which makes me a little uneasy about haveing it around.
Anybody got an idea if its worth anything? How to get rid of it? What the law would say?
Thanks, mitch
casting my mind back a bit but will give it a go iirc
if it is less than 100 years old and ammuntion is available it would need to be on a firearms cerificate (FAC).
however
if it was found/given to you from a relative and is of sentimental value you would be able to retain it.
Either by having it placed on your FAC which you would need to apply for or alternatively submitting it for deactivation which renders it incapable of being fired therefore not needing to be secured or placed on the FAC.
ETA...just lifted this off the met police site
Unexpected possession of a firearm – what should I do?
YOU ARE ADVISED TO CONTACT EITHER
YOUR LOCAL POLICE OR FIREARMS LICENSING AUTHORITY AS SOON AS POSSIBLE
TO AVOID PLACING YOURSELF IN DANGER OR IN JEOPARDY .
If you find unlicensed weapons, for instance discovering them in your loft having just moved into a new address, do not handle them - they could be loaded and in a dangerous condition. Immediately call your local police who will remove them safely and dispose of them for you.
If you are left with firearms that you know had been legally held (this could be due to the death of a Certificate holder, who was a close relative) you have several options.
Temporary Permit - You could request a permit to allow lawful access to the weapons in order to give you time to decide the best means of disposal. The Police are empowered in such circumstances to issue a Temporary Permit, which would normally be restricted to possession only (not use) and be valid for a limited period of time, usually a month, but in certain circumstances can be longer.
To request this, you need to contact the Firearms Licensing authority.
Registered Firearms Dealer - You could arrange for them to be placed with a Registered Firearms Dealer for storage and/or sale.
Certificate Holder - You may know of other Certificate Holders to whom they may be transferred (this would depend on them having sufficient storage and, in the case of guns that had been held on a Firearms Certificate, the authority to acquire that particular type of weapon).
Deactivation - Another alternative is to have the weapons ‘deactivated’, which would render them safe and remove them from all legislation relating to firearms. They would still retain the original appearance but would be incapable of discharging a missile.
if it is less than 100 years old and ammuntion is available it would need to be on a firearms cerificate (FAC).
however
if it was found/given to you from a relative and is of sentimental value you would be able to retain it.
Either by having it placed on your FAC which you would need to apply for or alternatively submitting it for deactivation which renders it incapable of being fired therefore not needing to be secured or placed on the FAC.
ETA...just lifted this off the met police site
Unexpected possession of a firearm – what should I do?
YOU ARE ADVISED TO CONTACT EITHER
YOUR LOCAL POLICE OR FIREARMS LICENSING AUTHORITY AS SOON AS POSSIBLE
TO AVOID PLACING YOURSELF IN DANGER OR IN JEOPARDY .
If you find unlicensed weapons, for instance discovering them in your loft having just moved into a new address, do not handle them - they could be loaded and in a dangerous condition. Immediately call your local police who will remove them safely and dispose of them for you.
If you are left with firearms that you know had been legally held (this could be due to the death of a Certificate holder, who was a close relative) you have several options.
Temporary Permit - You could request a permit to allow lawful access to the weapons in order to give you time to decide the best means of disposal. The Police are empowered in such circumstances to issue a Temporary Permit, which would normally be restricted to possession only (not use) and be valid for a limited period of time, usually a month, but in certain circumstances can be longer.
To request this, you need to contact the Firearms Licensing authority.
Registered Firearms Dealer - You could arrange for them to be placed with a Registered Firearms Dealer for storage and/or sale.
Certificate Holder - You may know of other Certificate Holders to whom they may be transferred (this would depend on them having sufficient storage and, in the case of guns that had been held on a Firearms Certificate, the authority to acquire that particular type of weapon).
Deactivation - Another alternative is to have the weapons ‘deactivated’, which would render them safe and remove them from all legislation relating to firearms. They would still retain the original appearance but would be incapable of discharging a missile.
Edited by magpie215 on Saturday 7th March 15:18
Parker-Hale, then reproduction. must be held on shotgun certificate if smooth bore or FAC if rifled.
from the dicription i would assume smooth bore, you can apply for a certificate to hold the arm as
a heirloom (IE- not to shoot) but with a repro this is probably not practicable.
Antique guns rifled/smooth bore/pistols can all be held without certificate provided you do not shoot them. Should you wish to shoot them then shootgun certificate / fac will be required.
I have antique and modern guns so hold both.
Hope this helps.
from the dicription i would assume smooth bore, you can apply for a certificate to hold the arm as
a heirloom (IE- not to shoot) but with a repro this is probably not practicable.
Antique guns rifled/smooth bore/pistols can all be held without certificate provided you do not shoot them. Should you wish to shoot them then shootgun certificate / fac will be required.
I have antique and modern guns so hold both.
Hope this helps.
mitchipoo06 said:
So, my mum recently had a housefire and in the process of emptying the house for the contractors to move in we came across an old Musketoon that i beleive came frome my grandad. He was an avid gun collector and must have passed it on to my dad who inturn stashed it under some insulation at the back of our loft!
Hes sadly not around anymore and never told anybody about it. Its a mint, boxed 1861 Enfield Musketoon, recreated by Parker Hale. and thats all that i know about it!
Id be very greatfull if somebody could advise me the best way to move it on, im no expert but i cant see any reason why it wouldnt work. Which makes me a little uneasy about haveing it around.
Anybody got an idea if its worth anything? How to get rid of it? What the law would say?
Thanks, mitch
MAke sure its not loaded before you point it at anyone.... Hes sadly not around anymore and never told anybody about it. Its a mint, boxed 1861 Enfield Musketoon, recreated by Parker Hale. and thats all that i know about it!
Id be very greatfull if somebody could advise me the best way to move it on, im no expert but i cant see any reason why it wouldnt work. Which makes me a little uneasy about haveing it around.
Anybody got an idea if its worth anything? How to get rid of it? What the law would say?
Thanks, mitch
Found this for sale Sate side
PR0520 Parker Hale 1861 Enfield Royal Artillery Carbine $900.00
PR0520 Parker Hale 1861 Enfield Royal Artillery Carbine
Click to enlarge
The Gibbs Rifle Company has reintroduced the Parker-Hale military replica firearms. Tooling for these Parker-Hales was created using the original gauges, now housed at the British MOD Pattern room in Nottingham, England. Barrels are cold forged, produced by Parker Hale Ltd. of Birmingham, England. Fullstock, 39" tapered round,.577 blued barrel. Front sight is blued steel base and blade. Rear sight is blued steel lip-up w/elevator- marked up to 800 yards. Features brass nosecap, triggerguard, buttplate, blued steel barrel bands, color casehardened lock with engraved lockplate marked "1861 Enfield" ahead of hammer & crown over "PH" on tail. Barrel is also marked on top "Parker Hale LTD Birmingham England. Manufactured by Gibbs Rifle Co. - Parker Hale/Italy.
THIS PRODUCT CANNOT BE SHIPPED TO CANADA.
PR0520 Parker Hale 1861 Enfield Royal Artillery Carbine $900.00
PR0520 Parker Hale 1861 Enfield Royal Artillery Carbine
Click to enlarge
The Gibbs Rifle Company has reintroduced the Parker-Hale military replica firearms. Tooling for these Parker-Hales was created using the original gauges, now housed at the British MOD Pattern room in Nottingham, England. Barrels are cold forged, produced by Parker Hale Ltd. of Birmingham, England. Fullstock, 39" tapered round,.577 blued barrel. Front sight is blued steel base and blade. Rear sight is blued steel lip-up w/elevator- marked up to 800 yards. Features brass nosecap, triggerguard, buttplate, blued steel barrel bands, color casehardened lock with engraved lockplate marked "1861 Enfield" ahead of hammer & crown over "PH" on tail. Barrel is also marked on top "Parker Hale LTD Birmingham England. Manufactured by Gibbs Rifle Co. - Parker Hale/Italy.
THIS PRODUCT CANNOT BE SHIPPED TO CANADA.
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