Is it time to reach for the tin foil?
Discussion
So, various "security experts" have now gone on record as saying it's no longer an if it's a when london will be hit by a terrorist atrocity, the banking sector is already in crisis, Noel Watson is predicting the end of civilisation as we know it, and we've still got a labout government and the replacement bunch look like they'll be pretty much as weak and useless.
Looking at the first option lets guess at the worst case scenario (that I can think of anyway) and that's a dirty bomb in the square mile rendering the entire area un usable for hundreds of years, that would take out pretty much all of the countries economic power in one sweep and create a situation beyond my worst nightmares. But really what would happen to normal everyday life then? I live 40 mile from the city and as long as I was lucky with the winds would be pretty safe I guess but would we really see a complete break down of law and order? would we see civil war of christian against muslim? troops on the streets (not that we have many left in the UK)? Complete economic collapse meaning that the banking system breaks down, people don't get paid, can't then pay for what they need and turn to looting/theft/violence?
But really I suppose the question is should I fill out the shot gun license application sitting on my dining room table, I have no real interest in going clay pidgeon shooting but could possible see in the next ten years a time when I would want one (or two) and 200 rounds, and when the time becomes obvious it'll be too late.
Looking at the first option lets guess at the worst case scenario (that I can think of anyway) and that's a dirty bomb in the square mile rendering the entire area un usable for hundreds of years, that would take out pretty much all of the countries economic power in one sweep and create a situation beyond my worst nightmares. But really what would happen to normal everyday life then? I live 40 mile from the city and as long as I was lucky with the winds would be pretty safe I guess but would we really see a complete break down of law and order? would we see civil war of christian against muslim? troops on the streets (not that we have many left in the UK)? Complete economic collapse meaning that the banking system breaks down, people don't get paid, can't then pay for what they need and turn to looting/theft/violence?
But really I suppose the question is should I fill out the shot gun license application sitting on my dining room table, I have no real interest in going clay pidgeon shooting but could possible see in the next ten years a time when I would want one (or two) and 200 rounds, and when the time becomes obvious it'll be too late.
mel said:
Looking at the first option lets guess at the worst case scenario (that I can think of anyway) and that's a dirty bomb in the square mile rendering the entire area un usable for hundreds of years, that would take out pretty much all of the countries economic power in one sweep and create a situation beyond my worst nightmares.
shadow offices would come on-line for exactly that contingency 
HE'S A WITCH!sleep envy said:
mel said:
Looking at the first option lets guess at the worst case scenario (that I can think of anyway) and that's a dirty bomb in the square mile rendering the entire area un usable for hundreds of years, that would take out pretty much all of the countries economic power in one sweep and create a situation beyond my worst nightmares.
shadow offices would come on-line for exactly that contingency 
Blimey. I imagine you have no recollection of most of 100 years?
For most of the last century (and probably going back 1000 of years too) the world has seen holocaust, nuclear bombs used in anger, the cold war, mods vs rockers, the IRA, Black September, Biafra, Vietnam, Cambodia etc etc
AND YET WE'RE STILL HERE!
IT's going to take a bit more than just a dirty bomb in the City to have much of an effect on the human race.
For most of the last century (and probably going back 1000 of years too) the world has seen holocaust, nuclear bombs used in anger, the cold war, mods vs rockers, the IRA, Black September, Biafra, Vietnam, Cambodia etc etc
AND YET WE'RE STILL HERE!
IT's going to take a bit more than just a dirty bomb in the City to have much of an effect on the human race.
Dirty bomb is a myth, I remember the theory behind it being debunked in the BBC programme called 'The Power of Nightmares'.
I strongly suggest you have a look at the film if possible, very good documentary on how to keep the citizens of the Western world occupied with 'bogey-men' as a pretext to do whatever the hell they like.
I strongly suggest you have a look at the film if possible, very good documentary on how to keep the citizens of the Western world occupied with 'bogey-men' as a pretext to do whatever the hell they like.
mel said:
But really I suppose the question is should I fill out the shot gun license application sitting on my dining room table, I have no real interest in going clay pidgeon shooting but could possible see in the next ten years a time when I would want one (or two) and 200 rounds, and when the time becomes obvious it'll be too late.
It's not a license to shoot people you know, but I see what you're saying.mel said:
Looking at the first option lets guess at the worst case scenario (that I can think of anyway) and that's a dirty bomb in the square mile rendering the entire area un usable for hundreds of years,
This is an entirely unrealistic scenario. Dirty bombs are incredibly overhyped; the amount of radioactive material you would need to render the square mile unusable would be huge. The bomb needed to disperse it would need to be correspondingly enormous.Dispersing radioactive material as an area denial tactic is fraught with difficulty and remarkably ineffective. That's why no military has ever considered such a weapon beyond initial tests. When we tested them (60's?) we concluded that, for a more effective weapon, you'd be better off just using more explosives.
I'd also suggest that if this is the worst scenario you can come up with you show a startling lack of imagination. Detonation of a fission bomb would be considerably more impressive for a start. How about a biological weapon? Both unlikely but not impossible.
So... dirty bomb in the city, rendering it unusable for a year or two, the FTSE is suspended, a load more incompetent financial "experts" are out of massively overpaid jobs....
Hmmm....
...And this is a disaster why?
Seems to me any terrorist attack would struggle to f
k things up as much as our senior bankers have...
Hmmm....
...And this is a disaster why?
Seems to me any terrorist attack would struggle to f
k things up as much as our senior bankers have...Fittster said:
MK4 Slowride said:
Yeah, but even the Terrorists don't want Birmingham as the next capital as that means they'd have to visit the place to bomb it.
Can I just point out that most of them currently leave there.
All the predominantly Muslim areas in Brum are very very close to the city centre....therefore I conclude we're safe!
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