Brake disks and pads for S1 111s
Discussion
Hello all,
Planning a brake overhaul this winter as disks and pads are on their last legs.
I'd love some ally belled jobs but don't think I can stretch to the £££.
I think I'll probably go for the Turbo grooved ones from Elise parts. Will these be ok on a S1 111s as I know they come with cross drilled as standard.
I don't track my car so I'm guessing these would be ok?
Also, would it be worth the extra expence going for Pagids over green stuff or mintex. Again no track use.
I think I'm running green stuff at the moment and they seem to lack bite. Anybody know if Mintex would be an improvement or would I have to go to Pagids?
If anybody has any experience of the turbo disks and the afore mentioned pads, I'd like to hear their thoughts.
Cheers
DSS
Planning a brake overhaul this winter as disks and pads are on their last legs.
I'd love some ally belled jobs but don't think I can stretch to the £££.
I think I'll probably go for the Turbo grooved ones from Elise parts. Will these be ok on a S1 111s as I know they come with cross drilled as standard.
I don't track my car so I'm guessing these would be ok?
Also, would it be worth the extra expence going for Pagids over green stuff or mintex. Again no track use.
I think I'm running green stuff at the moment and they seem to lack bite. Anybody know if Mintex would be an improvement or would I have to go to Pagids?
If anybody has any experience of the turbo disks and the afore mentioned pads, I'd like to hear their thoughts.
Cheers
DSS
Just undergone changing discs and pads myself, after scanning through various Forums, decided on Turbo Grooved and Pagid RS42's plus upgrading to stainless braded hoses.
Results are much better than the old cross drilled and Brembo pads(Brembo pads were worn!)I had on my 99 135S. You can really feel the bite, but is still easily controlled.
I suggest you have a scout round the net at the other forums, search through old posts, loads of info on all pads/disc combos.
Results are much better than the old cross drilled and Brembo pads(Brembo pads were worn!)I had on my 99 135S. You can really feel the bite, but is still easily controlled.
I suggest you have a scout round the net at the other forums, search through old posts, loads of info on all pads/disc combos.
I use EBC Turbo-grooved discs with Greenstuff pads on my S1 111S. They can lack bite but are better when warm. I’m just about to fit a new set of Greenstuff pads but I would have gone for Pagids if I had a little more cash at present.
The discs aren’t cross-drilled; they have surface grooves and dimples.
As a combination I haven’t had any issues on track or the road provided you allow for a warm-up period.
The discs aren’t cross-drilled; they have surface grooves and dimples.
As a combination I haven’t had any issues on track or the road provided you allow for a warm-up period.
Hi dss123
Discs: the standard discs are just as you would expect, expensive from a Lotus dealer and nothing special. The Turbo ones on the other hand are quite good value, grooved to aid gas relief and deglaze the pads and they are dimpled not drilled so there is less chance of cracks appearing. My advice if you are not going on the track - get these.
Pads: you have endless choice here, I still run MMC so I'm speaking from other posts I have read. Geenstuff V4 are good, low dust and have a decent wear life. Pagids are the most highly recommended, but i'm not sure how they compare price wise.
Have to agree with the other posts, if you are getting this work done you should also renew your brake fluid totally and get some stainless steel braided hoses to add feel to the brakes.
Wako
Discs: the standard discs are just as you would expect, expensive from a Lotus dealer and nothing special. The Turbo ones on the other hand are quite good value, grooved to aid gas relief and deglaze the pads and they are dimpled not drilled so there is less chance of cracks appearing. My advice if you are not going on the track - get these.
Pads: you have endless choice here, I still run MMC so I'm speaking from other posts I have read. Geenstuff V4 are good, low dust and have a decent wear life. Pagids are the most highly recommended, but i'm not sure how they compare price wise.
Have to agree with the other posts, if you are getting this work done you should also renew your brake fluid totally and get some stainless steel braided hoses to add feel to the brakes.
Wako
DSS,
I changed the disc, pads, new stainless hoses and new superdot 4 oil myself, to save cost. Not a difficult job, but you will need a Ezibleed or similar system to bleed the brakes. There is a load of info on www.elise-faq.info/content/engine/index.php
and www.elisenet.com/index.htm.
Hope this helps.
Adrian
I changed the disc, pads, new stainless hoses and new superdot 4 oil myself, to save cost. Not a difficult job, but you will need a Ezibleed or similar system to bleed the brakes. There is a load of info on www.elise-faq.info/content/engine/index.php
and www.elisenet.com/index.htm.
Hope this helps.
Adrian
Dont skimp on the Pads....
But
If you want to save a few pennies... you could use nickle plated hoses, many still come with a 10 year warranty, less than the life time that is offered with SS ones...But I'll be supprised if my car was still alive in 10 years...
Also you could use the standard plain EBC disks on the rear without any issues as 80% or the braking friction / heat disipation is loaded on the front disks. i.e. the holes and grooves on the rear do very little.
Neither of these would have a negative effect and may save you £100 overall.
Oh.. and dont forget the easy bleed kit
>> Edited by black_potato on Friday 29th October 10:04
>> Edited by black_potato on Friday 29th October 10:04
>> Edited by black_potato on Friday 29th October 10:05
But
If you want to save a few pennies... you could use nickle plated hoses, many still come with a 10 year warranty, less than the life time that is offered with SS ones...But I'll be supprised if my car was still alive in 10 years...
Also you could use the standard plain EBC disks on the rear without any issues as 80% or the braking friction / heat disipation is loaded on the front disks. i.e. the holes and grooves on the rear do very little.
Neither of these would have a negative effect and may save you £100 overall.
Oh.. and dont forget the easy bleed kit
>> Edited by black_potato on Friday 29th October 10:04
>> Edited by black_potato on Friday 29th October 10:04
>> Edited by black_potato on Friday 29th October 10:05
Just a warning but bleading the brakes is a tw@ of a job!
Invert the front calipers to avoid getting an airlock.
www.elise-faq.info/content/brakes/index.php
Invert the front calipers to avoid getting an airlock.
www.elise-faq.info/content/brakes/index.php
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