Bridgestone A048 on 111R
Discussion
Hi all, Bought a 111R about a month ago and it really is a fantastic car. however this morning the rear end got a little lively which is always good but not always appretiated at 06:30, now presently the car has the brdgestone A048's on it and I wondered what everyones experience and preference was>, I remeber having Pirelli PZero's on my series 1 which were ok in the dry but bloody rubish in the wet, is this the same with the A048's if so what do you all recommend?.......cheers Nige
Standard bridgestones on the s2 are fine for road use in the wet and dry imo.
Only worth changing to the Yokohama A048 and Oz wheels if you are tracking it a lot -if you are losing adhesion on the road, i'd question driving style, not the tyres. (edited to say this isn't meant in an arsey way & of course could have been oil/diesel etc on the surface)
cheers
tupolev
>> Edited by tupolev on Tuesday 2nd November 23:31
Only worth changing to the Yokohama A048 and Oz wheels if you are tracking it a lot -if you are losing adhesion on the road, i'd question driving style, not the tyres. (edited to say this isn't meant in an arsey way & of course could have been oil/diesel etc on the surface)
cheers
tupolev
>> Edited by tupolev on Tuesday 2nd November 23:31
yeah - Bridgestones were really good in the wet...I had no probs with 230bhp/190lb 
...how many miles you done on them ? got them well scrubbed in? what pressures you running? could try lowering them a bit for the winter...thats what I do...run Toyos now on 195 fronts with OZs, but think the Bridgestones were the better all round tyre...if only they did them in 195s
...how many miles you done on them ? got them well scrubbed in? what pressures you running? could try lowering them a bit for the winter...thats what I do...run Toyos now on 195 fronts with OZs, but think the Bridgestones were the better all round tyre...if only they did them in 195sHi Nige,
I thought it was me being a little silly but I totally agree the back end is very lively and you have to be very careful in the wet. I had the unfortunate experience of spinning the old girl in front of the in laws and the other half
It seems fine in the dry but I do think I might have to mention this on the first service. Onto another quick query doe's your car judder when pulling away ??? I'm not sure if my clutch is engaging in the correct manner ??? it seems to be more or less when I take my foot off the pedal before it's disengaged 
I thought it was me being a little silly but I totally agree the back end is very lively and you have to be very careful in the wet. I had the unfortunate experience of spinning the old girl in front of the in laws and the other half
It seems fine in the dry but I do think I might have to mention this on the first service. Onto another quick query doe's your car judder when pulling away ??? I'm not sure if my clutch is engaging in the correct manner ??? it seems to be more or less when I take my foot off the pedal before it's disengaged I'm struggling to get the back end to play in the wet on the 111r it seems very planted. I am driving it very hard at times but always being progressive, and smooth. I have got it out a few times but only by aggressive throttle and steering input to unbalence the car.
I'm guessing there is alot to do with driver use. Weight and balence seem to be a big part of the elise driving experience and effect the cornering greatly. Especialy it going into a corner har on th epower then a slight lift off will make the front bit hard. I image this characteristic could lead to a few hiccups if people unwittingly do that.
I'm guessing there is alot to do with driver use. Weight and balence seem to be a big part of the elise driving experience and effect the cornering greatly. Especialy it going into a corner har on th epower then a slight lift off will make the front bit hard. I image this characteristic could lead to a few hiccups if people unwittingly do that.
I had a very similar situation last week - scooting home in the 111r late on a wet night. Turns out I hit a patch of diesel, but I didn't know that at the time. The back end just snapped out all at once, before regaining traction and flicking back out the other way.
For a while, I was all crossed up and it was all very Colin McRae, but I just about managed to keep it on the black stuff with a combination of frantic sawing at the wheel and the ABS. My oafish inputs probably didn't do much to help the situation, so I think it's time to get on the blower to First Lotus for some lessons, especially as this is the first mid-engined car I have owned. Needless to say, my heart, and most other internal organs, were in my mouth at the time!
From what I remember from seeing a Top Gear episode when one of the test drivers demonstrated to Clarkson the proper way to drive a 111s, it seemed that the classic slow-in-fast-out was the way to go, with smoothness as top priority.
Does anyone know if First Lotus run courses in/near the North West?
[k]
>> Edited by [K]ar| on Wednesday 3rd November 14:14
For a while, I was all crossed up and it was all very Colin McRae, but I just about managed to keep it on the black stuff with a combination of frantic sawing at the wheel and the ABS. My oafish inputs probably didn't do much to help the situation, so I think it's time to get on the blower to First Lotus for some lessons, especially as this is the first mid-engined car I have owned. Needless to say, my heart, and most other internal organs, were in my mouth at the time!
From what I remember from seeing a Top Gear episode when one of the test drivers demonstrated to Clarkson the proper way to drive a 111s, it seemed that the classic slow-in-fast-out was the way to go, with smoothness as top priority.
Does anyone know if First Lotus run courses in/near the North West?
[k]
>> Edited by [K]ar| on Wednesday 3rd November 14:14
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