Supercharger fitted to Corolla using 'yota lump from 111R
Supercharger fitted to Corolla using 'yota lump from 111R
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S Works

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10,166 posts

280 months

Tuesday 25th October 2005
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Looks like Toyota have done what Lotus reckon they can't (unless you pay a 10k premium)...

http://www.pistonheads.com/news/default.asp?storyId=12207

Surely can't be long before SC kits come out to keep you 111R boys & gals happy.

beachbum

2,610 posts

261 months

Tuesday 25th October 2005
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I WANT ONE

How much, where do I get it. Toyota, must therefore do it as a spare part

>> Edited by beachbum on Tuesday 25th October 16:23

gooby

9,269 posts

264 months

Tuesday 25th October 2005
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Fensport have been selling a SC for ages. The trouble is, it isnt very good.

My point is that there are a few SC kits for the yota lump but even in the celica lump they arent that good and it would take some real skill to get the mapping correct.

Saying that, I had a mk1 mr2 SC and that was INCREDIBLE.

peter450

1,650 posts

263 months

Tuesday 25th October 2005
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this sc in a 111r would be great it might only be a moderate boost bhp wise but seeing as no intercooler seems to be required would solve the pakaging issues i'm sure? + the extra midrange would be good too and a light car like the 111r would probably get a big performance boost from this

>> Edited by peter450 on Tuesday 25th October 20:12

jfrf

406 posts

284 months

Tuesday 25th October 2005
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theres also a guy in the usa whos doing a supercharger for 111rs (250 or 280 bhp). intercooler in the side pod.

too early to say how good it is, as i think hes still developing it

www.ragnorakracing.com/catalog/item/2337807/1782089.htm

gooby

9,269 posts

264 months

Wednesday 26th October 2005
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Intercooler's are not an area of understanding for me. Could an intercooler be placed up front where the oil coolers on an exige go? What are the advantages of having the intercooler close to the engine?

(apart from weight!)

GRL

252 posts

254 months

Wednesday 26th October 2005
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Ideally, the IC should be placed in a position to receive decent airflow. On the Mk1 MR2 SC, the IC was in a similar position to the Exige 240's, directly on top of the engine. It suffered from heat soak on long and/or hard driving. Many force fed engines place the IC behind the front grille but the downside here for a mid engine layout is the long distance down small pipes to the engine.

I would like to see an IC placed at the bottom of the engine compartment with a scoop cut into the underpan to direct free-flowing, cool air directly at the IC.

All wishful thinking, I guess, as I think it will be some time before Lotus offer an upgrade unit or variant of the 111 with a blown engine.

Just my 2p worth...

gooby

9,269 posts

264 months

Wednesday 26th October 2005
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So we have some options, a small intercooler placed at the bottom of the engine bay or at the front of the car instead of the oil coolers.

I really dont think there is enough room in the bottom of the engine bay. In front of the engine there is the fuel tank and at the rear there is the exhaust.

In the nose behind the "quater vents" would seem a logical place to put it. What are the negative points about putting the intercooler so far from the engine?

DJ111S

30,324 posts

257 months

Wednesday 26th October 2005
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gooby said:
So we have some options, a small intercooler placed at the bottom of the engine bay or at the front of the car instead of the oil coolers.

I really dont think there is enough room in the bottom of the engine bay. In front of the engine there is the fuel tank and at the rear there is the exhaust.

In the nose behind the "quater vents" would seem a logical place to put it. What are the negative points about putting the intercooler so far from the engine?


Pressure drop amongst other things.

Towzer

221 posts

256 months

Thursday 27th October 2005
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The position of the IC on my old Scooby made a huge difference, as did the water spray. essentially the more cold air you get the more more dense the air becomes and therefore you get a bigger bang.

Many people moved the Scooby IC from a flat position on top of the engine to a vertical plane at the front of the car. This drove far move cool air into the IC. The WRC Scoobys have a front mounted IC, the air scoops are only for show (and to make people like me think I had a rally replica!)

Phil