Hurricane Induction
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boggy

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4,603 posts

266 months

Tuesday 8th November 2005
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Hi Guys

Can anyone tell me the best place to get one for my 111R Please

Boggy

jedm

66 posts

279 months

Tuesday 8th November 2005
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Don't - get the ITG instead - may be more dosh, but sooooooo much better

kevin ritson

3,423 posts

258 months

Tuesday 8th November 2005
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Not sure if there is a 111R version available yet - have a look on elise-shop.com

boggy

Original Poster:

4,603 posts

266 months

Tuesday 8th November 2005
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jedm said:
Don't - get the ITG instead - may be more dosh, but sooooooo much better


Why's that ? sorry I don't have one ?

Boggy

kevin ritson

3,423 posts

258 months

Tuesday 8th November 2005
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ITG's just a carbonfibre box, although there's a carbonfibre Hurricane.

Hurricane uses a cotton filter, ITG a foam one. Main difference is that foam ones disintegrate if not kept clean, cotton ones just don't perform as well but don't fall apart.

Performance wise they're pretty similar, although Hurricane's noisier. But as I said before, I don't know if a 111R version of the Hurricane has been produced.

boggy

Original Poster:

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266 months

Tuesday 8th November 2005
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kevin ritson said:
Not sure if there is a 111R version available yet - have a look on elise-shop.com


Hi Kevin,

Your the Man ! you wait until you see what I've gone and done Yay !

Speak to Tim you'll love it

Boggy

S Works

10,166 posts

281 months

Tuesday 8th November 2005
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Boggy, another point to note is that there's no hole for the sensor on the Hurricane so you'd have to drill the body of it or find another place to mount it (Kev did you need to fettle yours on the 111S?).

ITG has a sensor mounting point. If you've got the cash go ITG, if not talk to Yvo Tuk on SELOC (who runs Elise-shop.com) about the 111R version. IIRC, he developed and supplies the Hurricane (which you can also buy from Geary via eliseparts.com and various places like Sinclaires in the UK).

kevin ritson

3,423 posts

258 months

Tuesday 8th November 2005
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Is this an air sensor? My VVC engine doesn't have one, the feed hose simply swaps over.

So what's Stewart gone and done then??

cej

961 posts

253 months

Tuesday 8th November 2005
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I'm considering the Hurricane as well. Does anyone know how long I can expect the filter to last ?
I'm used to KN filters and they just need a cleaning once in a while and all is good. How is it with Hurricane ? I've seen cleaning kits for it,but no replacement filters .

kevin ritson

3,423 posts

258 months

Wednesday 9th November 2005
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Clean every six months and you should have no problems. The filter doesn't disintegrate, it just gets progressively more blocked by dirt.

boggy

Original Poster:

4,603 posts

266 months

Wednesday 9th November 2005
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S Works said:
Boggy, another point to note is that there's no hole for the sensor on the Hurricane so you'd have to drill the body of it or find another place to mount it (Kev did you need to fettle yours on the 111S?).

ITG has a sensor mounting point. If you've got the cash go ITG, if not talk to Yvo Tuk on SELOC (who runs Elise-shop.com) about the 111R version. IIRC, he developed and supplies the Hurricane (which you can also buy from Geary via eliseparts.com and various places like Sinclaires in the UK).


Hi Tim,

Yep had an E-mail this morning from him there currently finalising production and it should be available in about a Month, I just can't see the point in spending all that money on a ITG ? there's one for sale in the classifieds thou so I might give them a shout

Boggy

S Works

10,166 posts

281 months

Wednesday 9th November 2005
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A month's not that long to wait dude - it's taken you over a year to decide whether or not you want a Stg 1 can on the bloody thing, another month won't hurt

boggy

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4,603 posts

266 months

Wednesday 9th November 2005
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S Works said:
A month's not that long to wait dude - it's taken you over a year to decide whether or not you want a Stg 1 can on the bloody thing, another month won't hurt


LOL !

My man at Lotus has said that it's a waste of time buying a Stage 1 may as well buy a Stage 2, I should have £700 quid to spend in the next week or so I'll decide then. Don't want to draw to much attention so I might still go for a Stage 1

Boggy

gooby

9,269 posts

265 months

Wednesday 9th November 2005
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I do not trust paper filters. They are hard to clean properly and technically VERY difficult to get a paper filter to get the small and very abrasive particles without getting clogged. The efficiency of paper filters decreases rapidly and due to thier tendency to clog they use an open fibre structure that does not stop the particles you really need stopped.

This may not be a problem in the short term but long term engine efficiency / life is not good.

A good foam filter has far greater surface area and the density of the pores increases towards the outer edge of the filter. This means that a large variety of particle sizes can be effectivly stopped. They are also easier to clean. Good detergent and re-oiling they are as good as new. Also because of the large surface area presented by the foam means they are effective for a longer interval between clean's / servicing.

drac

369 posts

254 months

Wednesday 9th November 2005
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boggy if its any help i've ordered a sports cat and exhaust from the larini group buy and intend to dyno them for interest. i report back with info it can't be long now. Jedm reports its the bees knees.

boggy

Original Poster:

4,603 posts

266 months

Wednesday 9th November 2005
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drac said:
boggy if its any help i've ordered a sports cat and exhaust from the larini group buy and intend to dyno them for interest. i report back with info it can't be long now. Jedm reports its the bees knees.


Top Man,

Keep me informed

Boggy

>> Edited by boggy on Wednesday 9th November 10:24

Beachbum

2,610 posts

262 months

Wednesday 9th November 2005
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Heard a Lotus Stage 1 for the first time this Sunday. It sdifferent to standard, but not a lot.
If what you want is a change in the noise rather than Volume, then I would suggest the Larini.
If you want both noise and volume then the stage 2.

As to induction kits, what do you want to spend. There is quite a bit of difference in the price of the Hurricane and the ITG. However you do get what you pay for.

boggy

Original Poster:

4,603 posts

266 months

Wednesday 9th November 2005
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Beachbum said:
Heard a Lotus Stage 1 for the first time this Sunday. It sdifferent to standard, but not a lot.
If what you want is a change in the noise rather than Volume, then I would suggest the Larini.
If you want both noise and volume then the stage 2.

As to induction kits, what do you want to spend. There is quite a bit of difference in the price of the Hurricane and the ITG. However you do get what you pay for.


I do want a fair bit of Volume at the end of the day, been reading about the hurricane and it's developed on the car for the car, is there anything else available don't want a K&N or something that just drag's the air from the engine bay

Boggy

kevin ritson

3,423 posts

258 months

Wednesday 9th November 2005
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gooby said:
I do not trust paper filters. They are hard to clean properly and technically VERY difficult to get a paper filter to get the small and very abrasive particles without getting clogged. The efficiency of paper filters decreases rapidly and due to thier tendency to clog they use an open fibre structure that does not stop the particles you really need stopped.

This may not be a problem in the short term but long term engine efficiency / life is not good.

A good foam filter has far greater surface area and the density of the pores increases towards the outer edge of the filter. This means that a large variety of particle sizes can be effectivly stopped. They are also easier to clean. Good detergent and re-oiling they are as good as new. Also because of the large surface area presented by the foam means they are effective for a longer interval between clean's / servicing.


Hurricane uses a cotton filter so no problem with cleaning or efficiency.

Who on here has changed the induction on a Toyota-engined car themselves? Had a look in the engine bay of one after I put a Hurricane on my K and image it could be a pain: the intake's halfway down the engine at the back and the coolant expansion tank sits over where the standard airbox is. Is is easier to access than it looks?

Beachbum

2,610 posts

262 months

Wednesday 9th November 2005
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I was thinking of going down the induction route, but my insurance premium was daft for just a glorified air intake, granted I'm not paying all that much at the moment, but it was somethin like a 40% increase.
Another thing to consider is Warranty. The Lotus person I spoke to mentioned that they would find it hard to believe that the Lotus company would honour the engine warranty, if theings started to go wrong, once the kit had been installed. This wasnt a absolute, just his opinion