Nurburgring trip and small Lotus gathering plans and data
Discussion
Hi, I think a lot of you would like a trip/ride
and ofcorse a lot of cartalking/looking at/on the "green hell" as some call it but better known as "The Ring" the Nurburgring in Germany.
Its the Ultimate experience with more then 73 bends!
and going from lowground to highground its an amazing ride and takes a lot of practise and rounds just to even get to know it a bit, its a horror ride
but also a big challenge.
I've heard a lot of people talking about it, and as I planing to go several times this year we could set a date the coming months for this summer!
I put a UK website link on this so its also easy for you guys to pick a few dates wich and when you maybe can go and lots of info more, when time goes more towards summer we pick a date when its time and go to that circuit and where we meet, here is a link:
www.nurburgring.org.uk
and here is the official link of the Ring where you can find lots of info about opening days and time's for public and cars;
www.nuerburgring.de/index.php?id=106&L=1#1312
Think about some date's your free or like to go, and post here what you think about it and if you like to come with us, we will set a date later on this year but before summer ofcorse.
Hope many of you can join us, would be fun to see a lot of you for real and talk direct while having a great day and a experience you never will forget!
have fun and watch this thread, and drop all related RING stuf and talkings here
GTRene
DATA NüRBURGRING NORDSCHLEIFEBuilt: 1925 - 1927
Opened: 18./19. Juni 1927
Costs: about 15 million Reichsmark, work for 3,000 unemployed for 2 years
Length: 20,8 km
Bends: 73 (of which 33 left, 40 right)
Slopes: max. 17 %
Gradient: max. 11 %
Highest point: 620 m at Start and Finish
Lowest point: 320 m at Breidscheid
Height difference: ca. 300 m
I also will drop any data I see here posted where PH members try to go or go to THE RING, that way its easy to find and better to see who goes and when.
The post with data PH members go to the ring is at the end of the thread, have fun and hope to meat some PH members, also read the rules for the Ring but don't forget to have fun
>> Edited by GTRene on Tuesday 4th April 12:24
and ofcorse a lot of cartalking/looking at/on the "green hell" as some call it but better known as "The Ring" the Nurburgring in Germany. Its the Ultimate experience with more then 73 bends!
and going from lowground to highground its an amazing ride and takes a lot of practise and rounds just to even get to know it a bit, its a horror ride but also a big challenge. I've heard a lot of people talking about it, and as I planing to go several times this year we could set a date the coming months for this summer!
I put a UK website link on this so its also easy for you guys to pick a few dates wich and when you maybe can go and lots of info more, when time goes more towards summer we pick a date when its time and go to that circuit and where we meet, here is a link:
www.nurburgring.org.uk
and here is the official link of the Ring where you can find lots of info about opening days and time's for public and cars;
www.nuerburgring.de/index.php?id=106&L=1#1312
Think about some date's your free or like to go, and post here what you think about it and if you like to come with us, we will set a date later on this year but before summer ofcorse.
Hope many of you can join us, would be fun to see a lot of you for real and talk direct while having a great day and a experience you never will forget!
have fun and watch this thread, and drop all related RING stuf and talkings here
GTRene
DATA NüRBURGRING NORDSCHLEIFEBuilt: 1925 - 1927
Opened: 18./19. Juni 1927
Costs: about 15 million Reichsmark, work for 3,000 unemployed for 2 years
Length: 20,8 km
Bends: 73 (of which 33 left, 40 right)
Slopes: max. 17 %
Gradient: max. 11 %
Highest point: 620 m at Start and Finish
Lowest point: 320 m at Breidscheid
Height difference: ca. 300 m
I also will drop any data I see here posted where PH members try to go or go to THE RING, that way its easy to find and better to see who goes and when.
The post with data PH members go to the ring is at the end of the thread, have fun and hope to meat some PH members, also read the rules for the Ring but don't forget to have fun
>> Edited by GTRene on Tuesday 4th April 12:24
chouca said:
and it doesn´t show you how steep an how little runoff there actually is.
Nothing beats the real thing. Take it easy on your first 100 laps.
I´ll be there May 23th and August 13th till 16th
I've had the GT4 gran turismo with all the tracks incl "THE RING" its amazing how things look,(but I have to say never play games) I bought it for a good price iclu the game and steering, tried it for 2 days(wanted to use it longer because I could learn a bit that immens track as I can not use all that info quik with my brains)the track sieing was amazing, but I found the experience dramatic! as chouca says, nothing beats the real thing, you dont feel it in your bum? you got no connection with the road and the steering is strange! not real..so I brought it all back to the shop! lucky a nice girl there and she takes it back and I got my money returned and a expirience richer...no game no learning, I have to do it in the real, so very slow I think
but I wana keep my car safe and driving there is realy hell... for example their come's a straight and you can go flatout in the highest gear, then a small hill you can't look over...then almost direkt that hill a sharp bend
but you forgot was it a right or a left one
cose of so many bends! So be very carefull also because when a car crashd the close the circuit to rescue and clean so the track is then closed for that time...and no one can drive because of that...
GTRene,
Ow, I also will put the date that one of us goes to the RING in my opening thread, that way its easy to find, so when you put a date when you think you go, I put that also in my beginning thread so we good see who goes and when and what data weve got.
>> Edited by GTRene on Thursday 19th January 09:56
I can vouch for the fact that the PS2 Ring in GT4 is very accurate, but sadly the car physics are not... It is designed for children to enjoy driving a Tuscan S in the wet... 
I think getting something that handles like a real car is quite important as it helps to know how the handling changes as you traverse the various sections with their crests and dips etc. The Ring is specifically designed to be tricky to drive because of what it does to car handling.
I'd reccomend "Grand Prix Legends" for the PC, which was only a fiver last time I saw it. A wheel and pedals are essential to drive it properly (around £50 - I'd reccomend the Logitech ones). The car physics isn't perfect, but they're in a different league of realism to the PS2 (i.e. it is realistic!). The rendition of the ring is 75% as good IMHO. Bear in mind that you're driving the old ring with the loop at the start/finish (no real missing track, just a bit extra), although someone has created a modern ring for you to download off the web (search for GPL Track Database). Other than that, the ring hasn't really changed that much since then.
If you do have a go, my best time was a "something" and 10 seconds (in the Lotus, of course!). 8:10 maybe? Or maybe 7:10, I can't remember. Bear in mind that was on the old 1960s track with the loop, so it isn't comparable to a modern time.
I think getting something that handles like a real car is quite important as it helps to know how the handling changes as you traverse the various sections with their crests and dips etc. The Ring is specifically designed to be tricky to drive because of what it does to car handling.
I'd reccomend "Grand Prix Legends" for the PC, which was only a fiver last time I saw it. A wheel and pedals are essential to drive it properly (around £50 - I'd reccomend the Logitech ones). The car physics isn't perfect, but they're in a different league of realism to the PS2 (i.e. it is realistic!). The rendition of the ring is 75% as good IMHO. Bear in mind that you're driving the old ring with the loop at the start/finish (no real missing track, just a bit extra), although someone has created a modern ring for you to download off the web (search for GPL Track Database). Other than that, the ring hasn't really changed that much since then.
If you do have a go, my best time was a "something" and 10 seconds (in the Lotus, of course!). 8:10 maybe? Or maybe 7:10, I can't remember. Bear in mind that was on the old 1960s track with the loop, so it isn't comparable to a modern time.
I wanna wanna wanna go!!!!!!!!!
Think the Cup 240 will be losing its "Ring Cherry" this summer. Mine too!!!
If there are any guys in Scotland up for it I am very keen on joining GTRene and anyone else there. Just go easy on me cos its a big track and i dont wanna stack.
Away to watch my 959 Ring video of some of best in car footage from the Martini days
Think the Cup 240 will be losing its "Ring Cherry" this summer. Mine too!!!
If there are any guys in Scotland up for it I am very keen on joining GTRene and anyone else there. Just go easy on me cos its a big track and i dont wanna stack.
Away to watch my 959 Ring video of some of best in car footage from the Martini days
yeah, A real nice video, that tels it all when you stay over for a weekend at the ring, some friends I know go also with a van and then they sleep in the van and drive the whole day(when there are no accidents)
I even saw a Nissan Sunny GTI-R(pulsar gti-r) in the beginning grey one, I also had 2 grey(and 2 black and 1 red) and on the Ring a truck with a blue Z3 M coupe
as long as its blue and not my color and as long as its dry, I hate rain, then I don't dare to go fast...
GTRene
and drive the whole day(when there are no accidents) I even saw a Nissan Sunny GTI-R(pulsar gti-r) in the beginning grey one, I also had 2 grey(and 2 black and 1 red) and on the Ring a truck with a blue Z3 M coupe
as long as its blue and not my color and as long as its dry, I hate rain, then I don't dare to go fast... GTRene
Here is a Lotus Elise racing on the Nurnburgring, its a yellow one only the movie is a bit bad quallity?; and he also drive's in the Exige doing those playgrounds when you look under "more of this user"! very nice
Lotus Exige on Abbeville, 2.30min
Lotus Elise S160 on Godwood , 1.41
Lotus Elise S160 on Croix en Ternoi, 1.14
Lotus Elise S160 Nurnburgring, 9.19min
Lotus Exige on Oulton Park, 2.09min
Lotus Elise S160 on Rockingham, 2.15min
Lotus Exige on Anglesey, 1.14min
Lotus Exige on North Weald air, 1.28min
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-84155702564
and fore the Elise fan's here the link to the "2005 111R" and the "2006 111R" video;
www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/VideosMakeModelIndex/make=Lotus/model=Elise#2
hope you like it
GTRene
>> Edited by GTRene on Thursday 26th January 21:05
Lotus Exige on Abbeville, 2.30min
Lotus Elise S160 on Godwood , 1.41
Lotus Elise S160 on Croix en Ternoi, 1.14
Lotus Elise S160 Nurnburgring, 9.19min
Lotus Exige on Oulton Park, 2.09min
Lotus Elise S160 on Rockingham, 2.15min
Lotus Exige on Anglesey, 1.14min
Lotus Exige on North Weald air, 1.28min
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-84155702564
and fore the Elise fan's here the link to the "2005 111R" and the "2006 111R" video;
www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/VideosMakeModelIndex/make=Lotus/model=Elise#2
hope you like it
GTRene
>> Edited by GTRene on Thursday 26th January 21:05
when I looked on the agenda of the lotusclub.nl club I noticed they planning to do the Nurnburgring trackday too...somewhere in Juni normaly good weather, but they not have set any specific date, but as soon as I know more I post it here, so you can deside if some of you also would go I will try to go when they go
GTRene
normaly good weather, but they not have set any specific date, but as soon as I know more I post it here, so you can deside if some of you also would go I will try to go when they go GTRene
yep, I think so too try to set a date when summer comes closer and not in the same weekend as lemans or other importand datas...
And it will be after you get your new "toy" also have to wait about more data around mai-juni there is not much yet onn the website, and have to wait what lotusclub.nl does but we will come back on that
GTRene
try to set a date when summer comes closer and not in the same weekend as lemans or other importand datas... And it will be after you get your new "toy" also have to wait about more data around mai-juni there is not much yet onn the website, and have to wait what lotusclub.nl does but we will come back on that
GTRene
Also Lotus UK and some Exige Cup dealers do the 2006 racing season, and also go to the Nurburgring! on 14 and 15 april they are there to race, and you can too
You can drive with a standard/tuned(roadversion) Lotus Elise/Exige S1 and S2 but that will cost you 350,-euro ex btw its for the Regularity Races and thats is for the whole evenement(2 days) and you have 2 trainings from about 20min and a race that takes 30 min? anyway I think the race on the Ring is for the Cup and only on the F1 cirquit? but don't know for sure...
those are the data from the racing season and Regularity Races ;
01-02 April Hockenheim Duitsland R.R.+ RACE
14-15 April Nurburgring Duitsland R.R.+ RACE
T.B.A Engeland R.R.
9 Juli Colmar-Berg R.R.
12-13 Augustus Assen, Holland R.R.
16-17 September Dijon Frankrijk R.R.+ RACE
30 Sept.-1 Oktober Monza Italië R.R.+ RACE
14-15 Oktober Magny Cour Frankrijk R.R.+ RACE
www.nuerburgring.de/1_nuerburgring/anfahrt/index.html?L=1
GTRene
When you live in glasgow its far! its around 1200km...see the link.
www.viamichelin.com/viamichelin/gbr/dyn/controller/ItiWGPerformPage?isAvoidFrontiers=false&isFavoriseAutoroute=false&isAvoidPeage=false&isAvoidVignette=false&isAvoidLNR=false&strTypeStep=0&strVehicle=0&reinit=1&strStartAddress=&strStartCP=&strStartCity
>> Edited by GTRene on Monday 6th March 13:09
You can drive with a standard/tuned(roadversion) Lotus Elise/Exige S1 and S2 but that will cost you 350,-euro ex btw its for the Regularity Races and thats is for the whole evenement(2 days) and you have 2 trainings from about 20min and a race that takes 30 min? anyway I think the race on the Ring is for the Cup and only on the F1 cirquit? but don't know for sure...
those are the data from the racing season and Regularity Races ;
01-02 April Hockenheim Duitsland R.R.+ RACE
14-15 April Nurburgring Duitsland R.R.+ RACE
T.B.A Engeland R.R.
9 Juli Colmar-Berg R.R.
12-13 Augustus Assen, Holland R.R.
16-17 September Dijon Frankrijk R.R.+ RACE
30 Sept.-1 Oktober Monza Italië R.R.+ RACE
14-15 Oktober Magny Cour Frankrijk R.R.+ RACE
www.nuerburgring.de/1_nuerburgring/anfahrt/index.html?L=1
GTRene
When you live in glasgow its far! its around 1200km...see the link.
www.viamichelin.com/viamichelin/gbr/dyn/controller/ItiWGPerformPage?isAvoidFrontiers=false&isFavoriseAutoroute=false&isAvoidPeage=false&isAvoidVignette=false&isAvoidLNR=false&strTypeStep=0&strVehicle=0&reinit=1&strStartAddress=&strStartCP=&strStartCity
>> Edited by GTRene on Monday 6th March 13:09
I'll be there on the 28th April, leave here at 3am to get the 7am Ferry (need to check in at 6.30am, 1/2 hr before leaving port) from Dover to Boulogne. Drive over, sink some beers in Nurburg that night, then to the track for when it opens on the Saturday dinner time!
Soooooooo excited.
Anyone else going to be there at that time?
Paul
Soooooooo excited.
Anyone else going to be there at that time?
Paul
>>chouca will be there on May 23th and August 13th till 16th
>>14-15 April Nurburgring Duitsland R.R.+ RACE T.B.A Engeland R.R. lotus Exige Cup racing 2006 and Elise/Exige road racing.
>>Mr C will be there on April 28th
stuart1969 from Scotland seeks other lotus people from Scotland...and I saw that sassy(Sarah) gets her Exige this week so maybe they could go together stuart in his Exige Cup 240, and Sarah in her Exige, its a long ride! but would be nice to see you all on a nice summerday with a lot lotus people
Ofcorse when time goes more to April>>Mai>>Juni moer data will come then we also can/will set a date that most of us can go there, keep us posted when you surely go with or without others...
I don't know a date yet, but I'm very flexible to go so would not be a problem to set a date when...I just will fit almost any data most of you can go
GTRene
>>14-15 April Nurburgring Duitsland R.R.+ RACE T.B.A Engeland R.R. lotus Exige Cup racing 2006 and Elise/Exige road racing.
>>Mr C will be there on April 28th
stuart1969 from Scotland seeks other lotus people from Scotland...and I saw that sassy(Sarah) gets her Exige this week so maybe they could go together stuart in his Exige Cup 240, and Sarah in her Exige, its a long ride! but would be nice to see you all on a nice summerday with a lot lotus people
Ofcorse when time goes more to April>>Mai>>Juni moer data will come then we also can/will set a date that most of us can go there, keep us posted when you surely go with or without others...
I don't know a date yet, but I'm very flexible to go so would not be a problem to set a date when...I just will fit almost any data most of you can go
GTRene
Sassy said:
I'm taking delivery of my new Exige this week, and plan to do some track events in it. Going to Nurburgring would be fabulous - how long would it take to drive there?
You must be very excited Sarah, maybe minidiva in her Exige could join too
congrats to you and welcome to the madhouse I know stuart1969 is also from Scotland?? so he maybe knows how long it takes, and maybe you could drive together from Scotland! just look at a roadmap on internet and type Nurburgring Germany and your place then you see how far it is...so maybe best to book also a cheap hotel around the track? much info on both links in the opening from this thread, both can be changed in English language, best of luck. GTRene
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