Discussion
Any of you chaps from SELOC might perhaps have already seen it (or even known the car in it's previous ownership), but last Saturday I picked up my new toy from those nice chaps at Dream Machines.
"Kermit" is a Elise S1 Sport 160 SVA (ie one of the first 50 cars out of the factory). Unlike the later cars, this has 160hp straight out of the box. This particulars beast has been tweaked a little further for trackwork and comes with an rather sexy ITG carbon induction kit, de-cat pipe (although I have also have a sports-cat), 52mm TB, bradied hoses with EBC pads, quickshift and all the standard 160 toys (funky alcantara seats, LSS, Janspeed big-bore 4-2-1 manifold & zorst etc etc...
With just under 400 miles under my belt,,, I can comment that it is a one seriously grumpy bitch of a car... way more 'characterful' than my previous S1 111S and definitely a car for 'enthusiasts'.
I'm sure with a set of verniers and a remap of the GEMS ECU (later cars had an EFI ECU), it will become a pussycat... but for the time being, it is more like a smelly ferral tomcat... which is nice :-)
Acceleration above 4rpm is ferrocious and the handling is fantastic... the new Yoko Advans stick like glue (in comparision with the ropey P-Zeros fitted to my last two elises) and the brakes are noticeably better (although Pagids are on the shopping list).
Future upgrades will be a set of verniers, ECU re-map, eliseparts zorst (when the Janspeed one dies), lightened flywheel and CR-box.
Absolutely fantastic car and looks stunning in Scandal Green with black Victory alloys (the green is a metallic with a gold fleck in it.)
I can't wait to get out with the BOLOCs brigade :-)
"Kermit" is a Elise S1 Sport 160 SVA (ie one of the first 50 cars out of the factory). Unlike the later cars, this has 160hp straight out of the box. This particulars beast has been tweaked a little further for trackwork and comes with an rather sexy ITG carbon induction kit, de-cat pipe (although I have also have a sports-cat), 52mm TB, bradied hoses with EBC pads, quickshift and all the standard 160 toys (funky alcantara seats, LSS, Janspeed big-bore 4-2-1 manifold & zorst etc etc...
With just under 400 miles under my belt,,, I can comment that it is a one seriously grumpy bitch of a car... way more 'characterful' than my previous S1 111S and definitely a car for 'enthusiasts'.
I'm sure with a set of verniers and a remap of the GEMS ECU (later cars had an EFI ECU), it will become a pussycat... but for the time being, it is more like a smelly ferral tomcat... which is nice :-)
Acceleration above 4rpm is ferrocious and the handling is fantastic... the new Yoko Advans stick like glue (in comparision with the ropey P-Zeros fitted to my last two elises) and the brakes are noticeably better (although Pagids are on the shopping list).
Future upgrades will be a set of verniers, ECU re-map, eliseparts zorst (when the Janspeed one dies), lightened flywheel and CR-box.
Absolutely fantastic car and looks stunning in Scandal Green with black Victory alloys (the green is a metallic with a gold fleck in it.)
I can't wait to get out with the BOLOCs brigade :-)
GTRene said:
You have a nice cool kermit car Alex nice picture too and those black wheels realy are a must on yours indeed
And with that tuning stuf on yours it could 170 or a bit more hp in such ligt car, I think it will sound like a little boy racer
have fun
GTRene
I have absolutely no idea how much it is pushing out... it's certainly more than 160hp and i hope it is nowhere near 180hp (the engine would need some internal fettling to be reliable at this sort of power)... I would be quite happy with 170hp... ish...
The funniest thing is that it doesn't feel as quick as my last elise (a S1 111S with eliseparts zorst, 160TB & hurricane).... I put this entirely down to the lack of c/r gearbox and that i've yet to find some roads where i can explore the upper ends of the revs (where the power is hiding out).
The other annoying thing is that it doesn't like starting up... In my other elises, you put the key in, turn it and the engine sparks into life... With a SVA 160, you turn the key, it turns over loads and loads, almost fires, conks out, almost fires, conks out, give it some gas, fires, holds the revs at 3k+ for a little while and then sit back and enjoy the lumpiest idle this side of a nascar racer (not good for impressing the neighbours at 7am on a sunday morning!)
But hey ho,, the toxic frog is an absolute hoot!
ayjay said:
The other annoying thing is that it doesn't like starting up... In my other elises, you put the key in, turn it and the engine sparks into life... With a SVA 160, you turn the key, it turns over loads and loads, almost fires, conks out, almost fires, conks out, give it some gas, fires, holds the revs at 3k+ for a little while and then sit back and enjoy the lumpiest idle this side of a nascar racer (not good for impressing the neighbours at 7am on a sunday morning!)
Glad I'm not your neighbour then
I struggle already with some shouting birds at 5am in the morning..its the time of the season for them I guess...
About your engine starting so badly? maybe someone else now here? almost sounds like a old highly tuned car with 4 carburators and wild cams
?remembering my old Abarth...pumping Think you have to look at some things? your neighbours would like that and I guess you would like a better starting car too
GTRene
TonyHetherington said:
That is a top colour and with the black wheels looks awesome!!!
I assume the interior's black!?
Bravo!!!!
one should never assume! ... with a paint job like that,,, do you really think it would just be black inside! lol.... nope,, it's black with blood-red alcantara!!!
http://forums.seloc.org/viewthread.ph
I hope that link works
>> Edited by ayjay on Wednesday 5th April 15:14
Ayjay....we seem to have something in common!
Mine has an exige exhaust, itg filter, C/R box, verniers, CRP, Ap clutch, 340R catch tank...etc i have never had it on the rolling road but i got a print out with the car of 180Bhp...i was dubious at first but the reg ties up and it's from a reputable place so seems ok! I didn't think that it felt that quick either but then again the power is very linear it's not like you get a huge punch in the back...
Mines a later car with EFI....still a bitch to start, but you gotta love the noise it makes when it does go/stops stalling...!
Even though everyone has an opinion on optimax...(no knock sensor etc) i think mine runs better from cold on it, i can stop blipping the throttle after about 30 secs instead of a few mins!....but it could just be my imagination!
Pain buying one in winter isn't it, .....Can't wait for the summer
Mine has an exige exhaust, itg filter, C/R box, verniers, CRP, Ap clutch, 340R catch tank...etc i have never had it on the rolling road but i got a print out with the car of 180Bhp...i was dubious at first but the reg ties up and it's from a reputable place so seems ok! I didn't think that it felt that quick either but then again the power is very linear it's not like you get a huge punch in the back...
Mines a later car with EFI....still a bitch to start, but you gotta love the noise it makes when it does go/stops stalling...!
Even though everyone has an opinion on optimax...(no knock sensor etc) i think mine runs better from cold on it, i can stop blipping the throttle after about 30 secs instead of a few mins!....but it could just be my imagination!
Pain buying one in winter isn't it, .....Can't wait for the summer
I'm used to earplugs... my old 111S with the hurricane and eliseparts zorst was ear-bleeding! :-)
i might try some optimax (i presume it is okay to mix it with normal tanks etc)
i don't seem to suffer from any of the stalling issues that other people report,,, just an initial starting hassle... maybe i'm lucky!
i have been told that running a 52mm TB will make the engine run too rich (and knacker the valves), so I might switch back to a 48mm TB... I've also got a sportscat which I've been told would make the car run better (I'm reluctant to change as the cat-rep pipe makes it sooooo loud!)
i might try some optimax (i presume it is okay to mix it with normal tanks etc)
i don't seem to suffer from any of the stalling issues that other people report,,, just an initial starting hassle... maybe i'm lucky!
i have been told that running a 52mm TB will make the engine run too rich (and knacker the valves), so I might switch back to a 48mm TB... I've also got a sportscat which I've been told would make the car run better (I'm reluctant to change as the cat-rep pipe makes it sooooo loud!)
surely when you had the verniers fitted, you also had the EFI ECU mapped?... wouldn't that deal with the stalling issues?
i don't see the point in investing in an emerald if you can remap the existing GEMS or EFI engines (other than perhaps having the option to run an emissions friendly map for MOT and then switch back to lairy flame-throwing duties immediately afterwards!)
i don't see the point in investing in an emerald if you can remap the existing GEMS or EFI engines (other than perhaps having the option to run an emissions friendly map for MOT and then switch back to lairy flame-throwing duties immediately afterwards!)
- very nice, those black wheels look the biz too!
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