What is happening on pistonheads?
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I don't know if it is just me, but I have noticed a huge change in the atmosphere on pistonheads of late. This used to be a place where there was friendly banter, constructive debate, friends meeting up etc, but no needle whatsoever.
It seems more and more that there is aggression, foul language, name calling, delibertae stirring etc. It is happening on a daily basis. It is really sad to see. I have met great people (Bolocs etc) through pistonheads and it consolidated my love for the car. Today aside, I post less and less on PH and more on Seloc as the very things we used to say about Seloc are happening here more than they are there.
Is it just me? What do you folks feel? Lets get back to the friendly atmosphere we used to have. If the consensus is uniform, maybe it will be time for the moderators to take action.
It seems more and more that there is aggression, foul language, name calling, delibertae stirring etc. It is happening on a daily basis. It is really sad to see. I have met great people (Bolocs etc) through pistonheads and it consolidated my love for the car. Today aside, I post less and less on PH and more on Seloc as the very things we used to say about Seloc are happening here more than they are there.
Is it just me? What do you folks feel? Lets get back to the friendly atmosphere we used to have. If the consensus is uniform, maybe it will be time for the moderators to take action.
I have only ever posted on or read the lotus forum and know many of the folks on here personally. I value their thoughts. Iam not sure how many read the general gassing topics. The changes to which I refer relate to this forum. I am even more saddened to hear that the problem might be a wider one.
I could post a link in the interim.
>> Edited by shangani on Saturday 22 April 23:40
I could post a link in the interim.
>> Edited by shangani on Saturday 22 April 23:40
It goes through cycles... best way to get shot of the plonkers is just to ignore them everytime they post something stupid, they soon get bored and move to the porsche or TVR forums.... This is still the friendliest forum I've found so I suggest us regulars just make sure it stays that way! Boloc's to them all!!
<<< Been great talking to you all... guess I've just sentenced myself to the silent treatment now... ;-) >>>
<<< Been great talking to you all... guess I've just sentenced myself to the silent treatment now... ;-) >>>
gooby said:
I think the friendliness is still here, there are just a few idiots trying to ruin the fun. They will clear off soon. Is the L-O-T forum any good?
I've found this forum both friendly and extremely helpful with very little of the appalling behaviour that blights the Lotus BBS. I think there will always be the odd idiot hiding behind a keyboard but I think the answer is to try and avoid rising to the bait (although direct insults are always difficult to ignore). The varied and intellegent input from the likes of Gooby and Shangani (to name just two) have helped me enormously in my few months of Elise ownership. Let's not let the idiots spoil a great forum.
I used to post exclusively on General Gassing, in the days before the Pie and Piston.... then we got a Local NZ forum and I post there, although it's pretty quiet due to limited members over here.... Then I got my Elise and post in here. The PH Elise forum has to be my fave on the internet.... a good mix of Elise-related banter and technical stuff and always a friendly atmosphere... well towards me anyways 
I still lurk in General Gassing and post there, but generally between here and SELOC (for surfing more technical things) I don't have much time.
Oh and I love you all
>> Edited by Esprit on Sunday 23 April 00:35
I still lurk in General Gassing and post there, but generally between here and SELOC (for surfing more technical things) I don't have much time.
Oh and I love you all
>> Edited by Esprit on Sunday 23 April 00:35
I think theres just been a few newbie (unknown trolling) posters recently ..its not just on the Elise boards....I think the TVR and Noble ones have had their share also ....luckily for here its the exception and the regulars can generally spot them 
LOT forums are very good, no trolling, but very focussed - if you dont do LOT trackdays and/or know some of the members personally there may not be that much there for you...most of the guys there hang out on SELOC/here regulary and use the LOT board for what it was intended for - discussing everything LOT/trackday related to be honest .
LOT forums are very good, no trolling, but very focussed - if you dont do LOT trackdays and/or know some of the members personally there may not be that much there for you...most of the guys there hang out on SELOC/here regulary and use the LOT board for what it was intended for - discussing everything LOT/trackday related to be honest .
I think PH is a great community. If I still lived in the UK, i would enjoy catching up with you guys.
As Esprit has already said in NZ it takes real effort to get even a few cars together.
I can only comment on the elise/exige forum as its the only one i have time to read but compared to Elisetalk in the US, which i surf too as i have a 111R now, PH is very friendly and there is a lot less of the backstabbing behaviour common on other forums. There is always someone out there who is a real know-it-all, and usually they try to degrade others. The general 'don't feed the trolls' approach of PH is the best way to deal with this, eventually they will move on.
All you guys that post very regularly please don't jump ship.
On a complete hijack what's this about LOT coming to NZ.
Shangani also interested to read previously that your MBBS or similar, i was at RLH Whitechapel, (now QMW) finished in '97,(i did the ED job there) I'm currently a gas man. Where did you study?
As Esprit has already said in NZ it takes real effort to get even a few cars together.
I can only comment on the elise/exige forum as its the only one i have time to read but compared to Elisetalk in the US, which i surf too as i have a 111R now, PH is very friendly and there is a lot less of the backstabbing behaviour common on other forums. There is always someone out there who is a real know-it-all, and usually they try to degrade others. The general 'don't feed the trolls' approach of PH is the best way to deal with this, eventually they will move on.
All you guys that post very regularly please don't jump ship.
On a complete hijack what's this about LOT coming to NZ.
Shangani also interested to read previously that your MBBS or similar, i was at RLH Whitechapel, (now QMW) finished in '97,(i did the ED job there) I'm currently a gas man. Where did you study?
Being a relatively new boy, I can only say that my experience here so far has been nothing but surprisingly positive – it’s added a whole side to Lotus ownership that I wasn’t expecting
For sure I've noticed the odd idiot, but I guess I thought they'd always been popping up somewhere along the line. As Speedy said, most of the regulars tend to spot this early on and treat them with the contempt they deserve
Ultimately, I don't think PH has changed for the worse during 2006 - the majority of the people are great and the atmosphere is still good. Don't want to see the likes of Shangers and Gooby getting hacked off though, because they epitomise the Lotus branch of PH for me... so if there is a deeper problem that's beyond my understanding, it needs to be kept in check
For sure I've noticed the odd idiot, but I guess I thought they'd always been popping up somewhere along the line. As Speedy said, most of the regulars tend to spot this early on and treat them with the contempt they deserve
Ultimately, I don't think PH has changed for the worse during 2006 - the majority of the people are great and the atmosphere is still good. Don't want to see the likes of Shangers and Gooby getting hacked off though, because they epitomise the Lotus branch of PH for me... so if there is a deeper problem that's beyond my understanding, it needs to be kept in check
Thanks guys. You folks are the very reason why pistonheads is a great place. I just meant that there have been more trolls / troublemakers of late. You are right though - a few folks trying to wreck things for others.
Drac - I have always thought that anaesthetists are the most interesting docs. They always seem to have a life outside work. I started off as a physician and am now in A&E. Targets, targets, but at least it shares two of the most important attributes that make anaesthitcs appealing: No inpatients and no ward rounds! I am sure you know what I mean.
Drac - I have always thought that anaesthetists are the most interesting docs. They always seem to have a life outside work. I started off as a physician and am now in A&E. Targets, targets, but at least it shares two of the most important attributes that make anaesthitcs appealing: No inpatients and no ward rounds! I am sure you know what I mean.
Trust me, Pistonheads is like a Christian coffee morning in comparison with other forums!
I post lots on SELOC and that can get quite catty on occasions.
I used to post all the time on the British Cars BBS but that has really died a death due to all the trolls etc that post on there...
SELOC is the best resource by far for anything Lotus related,,, but Pistonheads is still a fantastic place to hang out for pure petrolheadedness (invented a new word there!).
You are always going to get the keyboard warriors who are happy to hide behind their computers and wind people up (you will normally find that they are ginger, wear socks and sandals and their names are colin....)
Long live Pistonheads! and keep up he good word Petrolted.
I post lots on SELOC and that can get quite catty on occasions.
I used to post all the time on the British Cars BBS but that has really died a death due to all the trolls etc that post on there...
SELOC is the best resource by far for anything Lotus related,,, but Pistonheads is still a fantastic place to hang out for pure petrolheadedness (invented a new word there!).
You are always going to get the keyboard warriors who are happy to hide behind their computers and wind people up (you will normally find that they are ginger, wear socks and sandals and their names are colin....)
Long live Pistonheads! and keep up he good word Petrolted.
See...nothing wrong with this forum!
It's true that it goes in cycles but all forums suffer from the same problem.
If a person doesn't post much they tend to be ignored by those who know each other.
This is more evident on SELOC, it's only natural, you have to build up a relationship.
LOT forum is good but that's as you would expect, the same people who are here and on SELOC post there.
Phil.
It's true that it goes in cycles but all forums suffer from the same problem.
If a person doesn't post much they tend to be ignored by those who know each other.
This is more evident on SELOC, it's only natural, you have to build up a relationship.
LOT forum is good but that's as you would expect, the same people who are here and on SELOC post there.
Phil.
We have been getting more drop in participants since PH is more widely marketed e.g. its the official forum for www.trcmagazine.com (and others). As in any growing social population, self selection should keep the good folks and filter out the undesirables as long as we dont feed them.
Some well intentioned folks do try and engage with obvious trolls (which I really dont understand), but it generally works out for my/our amusement that Sworks baits them
until Tony puts them down 
I dont see much evidence of aggression etc from forum regulars, but then I dont read any bollox threads that involve BHP or 0to60 content, am I missing out on the good stuff ?
that is all
Some well intentioned folks do try and engage with obvious trolls (which I really dont understand), but it generally works out for my/our amusement that Sworks baits them
until Tony puts them down I dont see much evidence of aggression etc from forum regulars, but then I dont read any bollox threads that involve BHP or 0to60 content, am I missing out on the good stuff ?
that is all
Most of the guys posting on this thread are part of the 'core' of this forum. We all know the rules, and by and large, we're civil enough. Don't forget we have Tony here to make sure that everyone behaves, he's pretty quick to step in when anyone gets out of hand or things get nasty.
Let's just make sure we keep it civil, keep it real, and keep enjoying each other's 'virtual' company.
My suggestion? Lets get a weekend in June/July and have a meet up. I vote a weekend with the BoLOC's down their way. Friday night meet up in BoMo for a few beers, check into hotels or B&B's.
Saturday, breakfast and the morning to yourselves with a run to lunch with the BoLOC's. Then a karting session where we can all pit our wits against each other 'on track', followed by an evening meal somewhere nice and an 'offroader' session where we get the
in.
Sunday morning reserved for hangovers, then a run to a roast for Sunday Lunch somewhere before a group hug and heading for home. I'm game!
Let's just make sure we keep it civil, keep it real, and keep enjoying each other's 'virtual' company.
My suggestion? Lets get a weekend in June/July and have a meet up. I vote a weekend with the BoLOC's down their way. Friday night meet up in BoMo for a few beers, check into hotels or B&B's.
Saturday, breakfast and the morning to yourselves with a run to lunch with the BoLOC's. Then a karting session where we can all pit our wits against each other 'on track', followed by an evening meal somewhere nice and an 'offroader' session where we get the
in. Sunday morning reserved for hangovers, then a run to a roast for Sunday Lunch somewhere before a group hug and heading for home. I'm game!
S works said:
Most of the guys posting on this thread are part of the 'core' of this forum. We all know the rules, and by and large, we're civil enough. Don't forget we have Tony here to make sure that everyone behaves, he's pretty quick to step in when anyone gets out of hand or things get nasty.
Let's just make sure we keep it civil, keep it real, and keep enjoying each other's 'virtual' company.
My suggestion? Lets get a weekend in June/July and have a meet up. I vote a weekend with the BoLOC's down their way. Friday night meet up in BoMo for a few beers, check into hotels or B&B's.
Saturday, breakfast and the morning to yourselves with a run to lunch with the BoLOC's. Then a karting session where we can all pit our wits against each other 'on track', followed by an evening meal somewhere nice and an 'offroader' session where we get the
Sunday morning reserved for hangovers, then a run to a roast for Sunday Lunch somewhere before a group hug and heading for home. I'm game!
I'd be up for a weekends driving & drinking (not at the same time obviously)Could base it around a LOT trackday somewhere.
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