Silly season...
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S Works

Original Poster:

10,166 posts

281 months

Tuesday 2nd May 2006
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Well, the silly season is upon us.

I appear to be getting a barrage of nonsense offers via email for the wee beastie. Today's prize goes to an unamed gentleman who offered me the princely sum of just over £7,000 for him.

Boggy

4,603 posts

266 months

Tuesday 2nd May 2006
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Morning Tim

Why o Why do these idiot's bother, I've ended up telling someone to F off they really do waste everyone's time making such silly statements

Boggy

TonyHetherington

32,091 posts

281 months

Tuesday 2nd May 2006
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Yeah but you never replied to me though, did you?

How much do you have it advertised for? I love the brashness of some people!! You never know though, I've heard some ridiculous stories of very low offers for cars that have been accepted.

S Works

Original Poster:

10,166 posts

281 months

Tuesday 2nd May 2006
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Did you email me Tony? If so, send again mate. My profile links to Hotmail and sometimes mails from PH get dumped in the Junk Mail folder (despite PH being a trusted sender).

If not, you are a cheeky man

Seems my friend was mistaking his currencies which could be a fair mistake I suppose. But still, it's an interesting topic. When does an offer so low become an insult to the seller?

TonyHetherington

32,091 posts

281 months

Tuesday 2nd May 2006
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Sorry I was being fasicious (how do you spell that?)!

Good question though - when does it become insulting? If you have a £12k car...£10k...£8k?!

S Works

Original Poster:

10,166 posts

281 months

Tuesday 2nd May 2006
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TonyHetherington said:
Sorry I was being fasicious (how do you spell that?)!

It would be facetious of me to correct you on that one mate, so I won't

cej

961 posts

253 months

Tuesday 2nd May 2006
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S Works said:
Well, the silly season is upon us.

I appear to be getting a barrage of nonsense offers via email for the wee beastie. Today's prize goes to an unamed gentleman who offered me the princely sum of just over £7,000 for him.




That's ridiculous.

its worth at least 8k


>> Edited by cej on Tuesday 2nd May 18:32

dragstar

3,924 posts

281 months

Tuesday 2nd May 2006
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Ah, the joys of selling a car. Fantastic.

The traditional choices are as follows:

1. The dealer.

Quick. Easy. IMHO, the easy way out but nonetheless the best option when in a hurry. It's just a little disheartening to see "Charlie", the unfortunate vessel that will handle your bum-raping/trade in, masturbate furiously** in anticipation as you role up in your pride and joy. What is he thinking? Well, i have it on good authority that he is thinking of phrases to justify knocking 99.9% off the ACTUAL car value. Phrases such as,

"If only it had air con"

"the mileage is a bit high"

"if it was silver, it would be more"

spring to mind.

2. Private

As per Herr "I ate too many pies" post, some really do take the piss. Leaving aside the tyre kickers, car jackers and "bazzas" who come to "check out" the car for his mate "trixy", you get the absolute idiots who come simply to tell you that you have a "shit car mate". When selling El 'Beast, i was approached by a big lad driving an XR3 of the "i" variety i believe. He challenged me to a race. I asked him whether he wanted to buy the car. He said "no" although he told me that he had embarrased a 911 by challenging the owner to a race.

Lovely.

Is there an alternative? why there is. But it ONLY works if your trading a car in. How does it work?

Internet car supermarkets. Oh yes. Granted, you can’t buy a murci or k202ed Elise from jamjar.com, but the saving you make from dealers on “normal” cars is astonishing. The best bit? The trade in value of your car is agreed over the telephone. They cannot pick visual “defects” to lower the price. When I sold El ‘Beast, I didn’t have some jumped up little jerk telling me that the slight scuffs on the leather on the sills meant my car was worth £0.02p. Nor did I have to explain why the nose looked a little yellow (armourfend is crap for this). Instead, I was left to extol the virtues of FSH, special ed alloys, extras, very very good condition etc etc.

All of this meant that I got £1,000.00 extra for El ‘Beast compared to the highest price offered from different dealerships. On the day of the exchange, the Type R paid for in full, I simply rolled up…exchanged keys and sped away from the scene as the fools looked at the cracked fibre glass that I failed to mention. Caveat emptor and revenge for the little (well big) lad.

**Er, yeah, about the masturbation- ever wondered what our lovely "charlie" does when he walks away from you, saying “I’ll need to check with my boss” when your haggling? Now you know why he comes back looking really smug! Considered yourself warned

>> Edited by dragstar on Tuesday 2nd May 15:14

DanH

12,287 posts

291 months

Tuesday 2nd May 2006
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Dragstar, when you mentioned the broken fibreglass, it's suddenly apparent why private buyers were saying your car was crap!

dragstar

3,924 posts

281 months

Tuesday 2nd May 2006
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now that you mention it...

Seriously though, I don't think that i was asking too much for El 'Beast- in fact, you tell me. The Spec:

s1 111s (1999)
43k miles (okay- a little high)
FSH (dealer and specialist) including very recent C-service and all minor problems sorted (£2k worth of work done e.g. track rod ends replaced etc-f)
Full portfolio with every invoice from car order form to last service, documenting the car's life)
4 BRAND NEW yokohamas
New MOT and 11 months tax
New Lotus Sport Suspension
Janspeed 4-2-1 Manifold
Lotus Sport Exhaust
Sport160 throttle body
S160 wheels
Gear linkage/short shift and all of the other extras i had on the car.

But, there was a slight crack in the fibre glass (rear quarter panel) where some numpty in a red car decided to reverse into me. twit I was quoted about £350.00+VAT from a dealer to repair.

Price: £9,800. I didnt think that was too high, bearing in mind it was sold almost a year ago.

DanH

12,287 posts

291 months

Tuesday 2nd May 2006
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Got no idea on prices, but a new clam is expensive so perhaps thats what the sticking point was. I had a nightmare selling my Elise too. Lots of test pilots who didn't realise that dealers are there for test drives not private punters.

S Works

Original Poster:

10,166 posts

281 months

Tuesday 2nd May 2006
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No one wanted to buy it off you because you're a chav in a wig.

No
Further
Questions
Your
Honour

_TC

1,938 posts

280 months

Tuesday 2nd May 2006
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I must have missed something Tim, why are you selling the black bomber?

dragstar

3,924 posts

281 months

Tuesday 2nd May 2006
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Boggy

4,603 posts

266 months

Tuesday 2nd May 2006
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_TC said:
I must have missed something Tim, why are you selling the black bomber?


You've gone and brought a Rarri haven't you

Boggy

gooby

9,269 posts

265 months

Tuesday 2nd May 2006
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_TC said:
I must have missed something Tim, why are you selling the black bomber?


2 options
S2 - honda SC convertion or a Exige S.

I would bet it is a hoooonda SC, S Works likes the sun on his bald spot

S Works

Original Poster:

10,166 posts

281 months

Tuesday 2nd May 2006
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The Goobster wins the prize.... Honda option, no SC just yet, the NA 220 is mad enough. Exige S was nice but no mental enough after the 160 (and you all know us 160 boys are a big unhinged )

Once the beast goes I'll know if it's plan A, or plan B. Both are pretty frickin' sweet - so hopefully someone nice will come along and give the little bugger a good home where he'll be as loved as he has been with me.

gooby

9,269 posts

265 months

Tuesday 2nd May 2006
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So you give an in-frigging-sane S160 driver more power....

This new car had better carry a bloody big public health warning.
Warning - iritating the owner of this car can result in embarassment and the forced consumption of "dust"

May I be the first to call you "sir"

alexarm

24 posts

247 months

Tuesday 2nd May 2006
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Hey Tim...

Know what you mean !!

Mine still for sale too...have reduced slightly. Have not had any really silly offers, but have had a few people messing me about. But its par for the course with this car sales thing !

Your car is lovely and I reckon it will sell soon at the right price....

On the Honda front, one sold the other day for 30k....so they do sell...

Alex

_TC

1,938 posts

280 months

Tuesday 2nd May 2006
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Boggy said:
_TC said:
I must have missed something Tim, why are you selling the black bomber?


You've gone and brought a Rarri haven't you

Boggy


Yep but it has been back to the garage twice in the first week of ownership. Once was for a very embarrasing exhaust rattle/vibration, i mean real bad... And the second was on the back of a flatbed as it threw its coolant everywhere whilst cruising at 40. in the car on my passengers feet and filled the boot too. oh dear, what have i done defecting from Lotus??