Watch out for plod this bank holiday weekend!!!!
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11pm, and a quick trip to tesco's, pulled onto the a3 (virtually empty) and went across all 3 lanes (there was no other traffic behind or near so perfectly safe move to make sure I was in the fast lane). Accelerated to 75, going the same pace as the other cars in the fast lane, slowed for 50 for the speed camera & then back upto around 65. About 2 mins later flashing lights & plod pulls me over and says I'm driving dangerously & speeding & shows me a lovely picture of the back of my car on his tv screen. For 75 mph in a 50 zone. On the sodding a3 for gods sake!!!
The first points I've ever got in 13 years of driving & for something so bloody petty. Of course they then chucked in the obligatory aren't u a naughty boy speech, have you been drinking, is this car insured. Not sure if it was because I was in the liz & they thought "get the flash git", but when there's about 5 cars all going at the same pace, it does seem strange they pull me over.
Anyway the guy eventually lightened up as I didn't contest & admitted they are being extra vigilent this bank holiday weekend. This was definitely true as I saw 2 more being pulled over on the way back!!!
Now, most importantly what is the best gadget to get to stop them from clocking me or something that will warn me when a guns being pointed at me ? I've got trackstar to find the camera's, just need something else to stop this happening again!!
The first points I've ever got in 13 years of driving & for something so bloody petty. Of course they then chucked in the obligatory aren't u a naughty boy speech, have you been drinking, is this car insured. Not sure if it was because I was in the liz & they thought "get the flash git", but when there's about 5 cars all going at the same pace, it does seem strange they pull me over.
Anyway the guy eventually lightened up as I didn't contest & admitted they are being extra vigilent this bank holiday weekend. This was definitely true as I saw 2 more being pulled over on the way back!!!
Now, most importantly what is the best gadget to get to stop them from clocking me or something that will warn me when a guns being pointed at me ? I've got trackstar to find the camera's, just need something else to stop this happening again!!
Bummer! Guess its easier than catching rapists or burglars? There is unfortunately no defence agains vascar 
I do find tomtom pretty good with the mobile sites - saved me a couple of times.
I tend to stick to limits in 30's 40's dual carriage ways and motorways (anywhere where normal drivers/cars can easily speed) as thats where you'll find em waiting and save my playing for the nat speed twisties where your less likely to find them because theres less revinue potential
I do find tomtom pretty good with the mobile sites - saved me a couple of times. I tend to stick to limits in 30's 40's dual carriage ways and motorways (anywhere where normal drivers/cars can easily speed) as thats where you'll find em waiting and save my playing for the nat speed twisties where your less likely to find them because theres less revinue potential
Sorry to hear that. So the official police stance on a bank holiday weekend is to ruin your hols. It would be really refreshing if they did some real work for a change.
I have a shed load of countermeasures. An Origin B2 backed up with radar and laser detectors and a laser "garage door opener". In you case it probably would not have done any good. It sounds like they simply followed you.
It is crazy because I bet you that 2 years ago the limit was at least 60mph and they dropped the limit so the speed scameras can rape more motorists.
British motorist = wallet on wheels.
I have a shed load of countermeasures. An Origin B2 backed up with radar and laser detectors and a laser "garage door opener". In you case it probably would not have done any good. It sounds like they simply followed you.
It is crazy because I bet you that 2 years ago the limit was at least 60mph and they dropped the limit so the speed scameras can rape more motorists.
British motorist = wallet on wheels.
75 in a 50? When was the last time you had your eyes checked?
I'm not berating the speed you were going, we are all aware that an arbitary limit set but a bloke in a white shirt in some ministerial office can often be exceeded without mowing down a bus stop packed with schoolchildren, but flippin' 'eck you were more than one or two mph over!
It's not the 'crime', it's the fact that you didn't notice the BiB and were caught.
Really, Specsavers could probably help...
I'm not berating the speed you were going, we are all aware that an arbitary limit set but a bloke in a white shirt in some ministerial office can often be exceeded without mowing down a bus stop packed with schoolchildren, but flippin' 'eck you were more than one or two mph over!
It's not the 'crime', it's the fact that you didn't notice the BiB and were caught.
Really, Specsavers could probably help...
As I said I went upto 75 to overtake the other cars who were plodding around & then back into the middle lane and was doing around 60 in a 50 zone. This was the a3, a 3 lane, spacious stretch of road @ 11pm with not many other cars around. In no way shape or form was I driving dangerously. The same nice large peice of road that the old coopers used to be tested back in the 50's & 60's no less! I've had a driving licence for 14 years & not one speeding ticket, parking fine or crash in my life. Yes, if I was hooning it around, swerving in and out of traffic by all means do me, i'd deserve it. But in this case I was tailed & setup so a couple of PC's not good enough to work the streets could fill their quota for the evening. Are you telling me you have never dobe the same or had a little burst of speeding when overtaking other vehicles ? If so, then I suggest you go back to the rover 75 forum & discuss which pipe matches the wood dash best! (just kidding!)
The officer admitted they were being extra vigilent this bank holiday weekend & his point was proved when I saw 2 other cars get pulled on the way back, so I'm not taking it too personally
but on a friday night at 11pm they really should be targetting the low life that hangs around city centres than having 2 men in each car pulling over (mildly) speeding motorists!! Either way, be careful this weekend everyone in the Surrey area!
I know it wouldn't of helped in this case, but I want to protect myself anyway. I was looking at the new road angel plus which apparently has a laser sensor built in. Although this garage door thing sounds good!! Gooby, does this actually work & how hard is it to get installed in a liz ?
The officer admitted they were being extra vigilent this bank holiday weekend & his point was proved when I saw 2 other cars get pulled on the way back, so I'm not taking it too personally
but on a friday night at 11pm they really should be targetting the low life that hangs around city centres than having 2 men in each car pulling over (mildly) speeding motorists!! Either way, be careful this weekend everyone in the Surrey area! I know it wouldn't of helped in this case, but I want to protect myself anyway. I was looking at the new road angel plus which apparently has a laser sensor built in. Although this garage door thing sounds good!! Gooby, does this actually work & how hard is it to get installed in a liz ?
3 points from where I'm sat.
1. You (like we all do) took a chance and broke the speed limit, albeit (and I'm prepared to accept your version of events) not endangering anyone at all by doing it. Unfortunately you got busted and pulled for it.
2. I don't think there's a product on the market that can tell you when you're being followed by an unmarked car, and neither is there one which can jam a vascar unit (which they use to video you).
3. In support of your position re: the speed limit on the A3 in places, yep it's retarded, as are stupid speed limits like the 40/50mph ones on the 6-lane A13 for god knows how many miles out of the East of London to the M25 am a big advocate of variable speed limits, something which works well but as gooby has mentioned is not in-line with the current administrations policy of using good old middle-class, tax-paying car lovers as their cash-cow.
I'd be pissed off too, but ultimately, they're doing their job per orders, they saw someone in a fast car which stands out from the crowd swapping lanes (and BTW there is no 'fast-lane'... sorry to sound trite, but it's a personal bugbear of mine that expression, usually reserved for BMW and Mercedes sprinter van drivers), and doing 25mph over the limit. Frankly if you only got your wrists slapped you should be counting your lucky stars. 8 lives left bro!
1. You (like we all do) took a chance and broke the speed limit, albeit (and I'm prepared to accept your version of events) not endangering anyone at all by doing it. Unfortunately you got busted and pulled for it.
2. I don't think there's a product on the market that can tell you when you're being followed by an unmarked car, and neither is there one which can jam a vascar unit (which they use to video you).
3. In support of your position re: the speed limit on the A3 in places, yep it's retarded, as are stupid speed limits like the 40/50mph ones on the 6-lane A13 for god knows how many miles out of the East of London to the M25 am a big advocate of variable speed limits, something which works well but as gooby has mentioned is not in-line with the current administrations policy of using good old middle-class, tax-paying car lovers as their cash-cow.
I'd be pissed off too, but ultimately, they're doing their job per orders, they saw someone in a fast car which stands out from the crowd swapping lanes (and BTW there is no 'fast-lane'... sorry to sound trite, but it's a personal bugbear of mine that expression, usually reserved for BMW and Mercedes sprinter van drivers), and doing 25mph over the limit. Frankly if you only got your wrists slapped you should be counting your lucky stars. 8 lives left bro!
jb111s said:
Now, most importantly what is the best gadget to get to stop them from clocking me or something that will warn me when a guns being pointed at me ? I've got trackstar to find the camera's, just need something else to stop this happening again!!
Dont speed. Save it for the track.
jb111s said:
Of course they then chucked in the obligatory aren't u a naughty boy speech, have you been drinking, is this car insured. Not sure if it was because I was in the liz & they thought "get the flash git", but when there's about 5 cars all going at the same pace, it does seem strange they pull me over.
Mate, take it like a man. So they asked you if you'd had a drink and were insured? Believe it or not some naughty people do drink and drive, and don't get insurance. Especially people who don't spot plod behind them. Unmarked cars aren't exactly difficult to spot, pop over to the Speed Plod and Law forum where theres a discussion about them as we speak. As for the flash git aspect, you're in an Elise, nice car but no Ferrari....
Oh, and puuurlease don't people start the 'why aren't they catching real criminals' shite. These were TRAFFIC Police who gave you the ticket, they deal with things like drunk speeding uninsured motorists, the Police everybody is calling for more of instead of yellow boxes.
Try and learn from this. Keep the speed for 'appropriate' roads (ie, roads you know well and have recce'd). Use your rear view mirror, scan the road ahead, and check out cars which you overtake in case they are unmarked plod. These simple measures will be safer in the long run than an electronic box on your dashboard. You can either take this advice and learn from it or continue to drive as you please because you've done nothing wrong etc. Up to you really
I want something out of topgun, when someone gets a lock on me, it to go "beep beep beep" & let me shout out "bogeys at 12 o clock" & look back to see an angry policeman shaking his fist knowing he's been beaten
Now don't get me wrong, my rant is over the fact that they used such blatent entrapment & did so on a stretch of road that already has speed camera's every 5 mins or so and the fact I was not driving stupidly, just did a quick overtake then returned to the same speed as everyone else & got pulled over when they saw me about to turn off. There seemed to be quite a few police vehicles doing this on that evening. Now let's say they had 3 such cars patrolling the a3, that's 6 officers off the street at 11pm on a friday night. Now I know they are traffic cops & not the usual on the street sorts & this is not the same department. But the whole point of speed cameras is to prevent speeding, therefore logic would dictate that this does away with the need for cars patrolling the dual carrriageways & you can save money by not having to have 2 officers per car (why 2 for
s sake, do the poor little lambs get bored??) driving around policing speeding offences. This money saved could then be allocated to recruiting more police on the street to ensure that there is no violence in city centres at closing time for most of the pubs on a friday night!!! Although admittedly there should definitley be some patrolling to catch tossers who drink drive. But not a whole load en mass seeing who can get the most in one evening!
Now I'm sure there's thousands of similar posts to the same effect & I know I'm sounding like clarkson, but it F*cks me right off to have some Nigel Mansell impersonator entrap me, act in that stereotypical condescending "haven't you been a naughty boy sir, bet you're not insured, oooh haven't we got a flash car" attitude, when there's some horrible little tw@ts roaming the city centres at the same time making some poor sods life a misery.
For those who haven't has this happen to them yet & claim they never occasionally break the speed limit (which seeing as you're lotus drivers I highly doubt!!!), see how you feel when you get setup in this way.
Real police I have plenty of respect for! Especially the ones who I know buy elise's & are known to turn a blind eye to people test driving them in the area around where I purchased mine
Now don't get me wrong, my rant is over the fact that they used such blatent entrapment & did so on a stretch of road that already has speed camera's every 5 mins or so and the fact I was not driving stupidly, just did a quick overtake then returned to the same speed as everyone else & got pulled over when they saw me about to turn off. There seemed to be quite a few police vehicles doing this on that evening. Now let's say they had 3 such cars patrolling the a3, that's 6 officers off the street at 11pm on a friday night. Now I know they are traffic cops & not the usual on the street sorts & this is not the same department. But the whole point of speed cameras is to prevent speeding, therefore logic would dictate that this does away with the need for cars patrolling the dual carrriageways & you can save money by not having to have 2 officers per car (why 2 for
s sake, do the poor little lambs get bored??) driving around policing speeding offences. This money saved could then be allocated to recruiting more police on the street to ensure that there is no violence in city centres at closing time for most of the pubs on a friday night!!! Although admittedly there should definitley be some patrolling to catch tossers who drink drive. But not a whole load en mass seeing who can get the most in one evening! Now I'm sure there's thousands of similar posts to the same effect & I know I'm sounding like clarkson, but it F*cks me right off to have some Nigel Mansell impersonator entrap me, act in that stereotypical condescending "haven't you been a naughty boy sir, bet you're not insured, oooh haven't we got a flash car" attitude, when there's some horrible little tw@ts roaming the city centres at the same time making some poor sods life a misery.
For those who haven't has this happen to them yet & claim they never occasionally break the speed limit (which seeing as you're lotus drivers I highly doubt!!!), see how you feel when you get setup in this way.
Real police I have plenty of respect for! Especially the ones who I know buy elise's & are known to turn a blind eye to people test driving them in the area around where I purchased mine
And its "only" your first
think a lot(us) of us have much more!...I remembered my first haha...but since then I grow up and so did the bills remember the lastest one I've had 1200,-euro 3 months not driving, 1 month my car gone and saying you will not get it back on nationel radio! its bin on national TV...
And I was only speeding on a empty road in NL(highway/autobahn) on the savest spot in NL! dubble straight a few miles and perfect conditions! so I don't know where to do it now, because don't have real money for a track...and driving that speed on a track is very unsafe for car accidents! with all that curves...and other cars racing, and I don't like to mess up my car! even over the border in Germany there's a lot trafic...
If I was speeding on a busy road, or making dangerous move's...ok but I did not anny of that, just bad luck...never thought they would stand on the bridge over that road...in the middle of the night no need for that, so now my favorite road is a scary road! don't thrust anny bridge, its a sad world...
We live in a free country the say...yeah right...as long as you life by all!!! the rules.
aaaaaaaaaaaahhhhrgggghghhhhhrrr &*&^%##$%@##%% haha I rest my case
GTRene
>> Edited by GTRene on Saturday 27th May 16:28
think a lot(us) of us have much more!...I remembered my first haha...but since then I grow up and so did the bills remember the lastest one I've had 1200,-euro 3 months not driving, 1 month my car gone and saying you will not get it back on nationel radio! its bin on national TV... And I was only speeding on a empty road in NL(highway/autobahn) on the savest spot in NL! dubble straight a few miles and perfect conditions! so I don't know where to do it now, because don't have real money for a track...and driving that speed on a track is very unsafe for car accidents! with all that curves...and other cars racing, and I don't like to mess up my car! even over the border in Germany there's a lot trafic...
If I was speeding on a busy road, or making dangerous move's...ok but I did not anny of that, just bad luck...never thought they would stand on the bridge over that road...in the middle of the night no need for that, so now my favorite road is a scary road! don't thrust anny bridge, its a sad world...
We live in a free country the say...yeah right...as long as you life by all!!! the rules.
aaaaaaaaaaaahhhhrgggghghhhhhrrr &*&^%##$%@##%% haha I rest my case
GTRene
>> Edited by GTRene on Saturday 27th May 16:28
Hollywood Wheels said:
Of course they then chucked in the obligatory aren't u a naughty boy speech, have you been drinking, is this car insured. Not sure if it was because I was in the liz & they thought "get the flash git", but when there's about 5 cars all going at the same pace, it does seem strange they pull me over.
Mate, take it like a man. So they asked you if you'd had a drink and were insured? Believe it or not some naughty people do drink and drive, and don't get insurance. Especially people who don't spot plod behind them. Unmarked cars aren't exactly difficult to spot, pop over to the Speed Plod and Law forum where theres a discussion about them as we speak. As for the flash git aspect, you're in an Elise, nice car but no Ferrari....
Oh, and puuurlease don't people start the 'why aren't they catching real criminals' shite. These were TRAFFIC Police who gave you the ticket, they deal with things like drunk speeding uninsured motorists, the Police everybody is calling for more of instead of yellow boxes.
Try and learn from this. Keep the speed for 'appropriate' roads (ie, roads you know well and have recce'd). Use your rear view mirror, scan the road ahead, and check out cars which you overtake in case they are unmarked plod. These simple measures will be safer in the long run than an electronic box on your dashboard. You can either take this advice and learn from it or continue to drive as you please because you've done nothing wrong etc. Up to you really
No, I'm going to get an uzi & take out all moustacheod traffic cops
As for your argument they can easily see I wasn't pissed by watching to see I wasn't swerving & as for insurance, they can check the cars not nicked by driving behind me & doing a search on my number plate. If they weren't out there to generate revenue then why didn't they just pull me over & say "that was a bit cheeky, don't do it again ??". My punishment did not fit the crime m'lud & all the other cars in the same lane were doing the same bleedin speed. As for driving carefully, looking out for unmarked cars I do, that's why I'm so P**sed off! It's my first one in 13 years!! I will take it like a man (cheeky git
) but I'll whinge about it like a woman! jb111s said:
they can easily see I wasn't pissed by watching to see I wasn't swerving & as for insurance, they can check the cars not nicked by driving behind me & doing a search on my number plate.
Urban myths. What if you had just nicked the car, it wouldn't be reported stolen? Some people have their vars nicked when they're on holiday, so it won't be reported for weeks. Some people don't report cars stolen ever believe it or not (usually old bangers, the cars i mean not the owners!) Lots of cars drive on cloned plates. As for being drunk, why should you be swerving just because you're drunk? What about drivers under the influence of drugs?
jb111s said:
As for driving carefully, looking out for unmarked cars I do, that's why I'm so P**sed off! It's my first one in 13 years!! I will take it like a man (cheeky git
Sorry, didn't mean to get on my high horse....GTRene said:
And its "only" your first
And I was only speeding on a empty road in NL(highway/autobahn) on the savest spot in NL! dubble straight a few miles and perfect conditions! so I don't know where to do it now, because don't have real money for a track...and driving that speed on a track is very unsafe for car accidents! with all that curves...and other cars racing, and I don't like to mess up my car! even over the border in Germany there's a lot trafic...
If I was speeding on a busy road, or making dangerous move's...ok but I did not anny of that, just bad luck...never thought they would stand on the bridge over that road...in the middle of the night no need for that, so now my favorite road is a scary road! don't thrust anny bridge, its a sad world...
We live in a free country the say...yeah right...as long as you life by all!!! the rules.
aaaaaaaaaaaahhhhrgggghghhhhhrrr &*&^%##$%@##%% haha I rest my case
GTRene
>> Edited by GTRene on Saturday 27th May 16:28
Mate, my full sympathies now you have something to complain about! I would not even wan't to think about losing the licence & not being able to drive the liz! This is why I want a laser detector, I never speed under bridges anyway for fear of these & always do keep a lookout but when it's late at night then they've got you (awaits someone to say you shouldn't be speeding then!!).
So, back to my orginal point what's the best form of protection ?
Hollywood Wheels said:
they can easily see I wasn't pissed by watching to see I wasn't swerving & as for insurance, they can check the cars not nicked by driving behind me & doing a search on my number plate.
Urban myths. What if you had just nicked the car, it wouldn't be reported stolen? Some people have their vars nicked when they're on holiday, so it won't be reported for weeks. Some people don't report cars stolen ever believe it or not (usually old bangers, the cars i mean not the owners!) Lots of cars drive on cloned plates. As for being drunk, why should you be swerving just because you're drunk? What about drivers under the influence of drugs?
jb111s said:
As for driving carefully, looking out for unmarked cars I do, that's why I'm so P**sed off! It's my first one in 13 years!! I will take it like a man (cheeky git
No offence taken mate, valid points! I am ranting but the girlfriend got annoyed with my whineing so I thought I'd carry on venting anger over the internet like a proper psycho...
Yes, ok we do need traffic cops, but could they not just be a bit nicer & just tell me off in future, but why 2 per vehicle ? I'm still right about that (clutches last straw). And you don't all look like Nigel Mansell, the moustache is still fashionable! I just know there's going to be a load of unmarked mondeo's trailing me for the next few months now..
Ok you can spot the druggies by the amount of times they stop off at esso to buy rizla's & pillheads by awful doof music blaring out & the car swerving as they start throwing shapes!!
jb111s said:
And its "only" your first
And I was only speeding on a empty road in NL(highway/autobahn) on the savest spot in NL! dubble straight a few miles and perfect conditions! so I don't know where to do it now, because don't have real money for a track...and driving that speed on a track is very unsafe for car accidents! with all that curves...and other cars racing, and I don't like to mess up my car! even over the border in Germany there's a lot trafic...
If I was speeding on a busy road, or making dangerous move's...ok but I did not anny of that, just bad luck...never thought they would stand on the bridge over that road...in the middle of the night no need for that, so now my favorite road is a scary road! don't thrust anny bridge, its a sad world...
We live in a free country the say...yeah right...as long as you life by all!!! the rules.
aaaaaaaaaaaahhhhrgggghghhhhhrrr &*&^%##$%@##%% haha I rest my case
GTRene
>> Edited by GTRene on Saturday 27th May 16:28
Mate, my full sympathies now you have something to complain about! I would not even wan't to think about losing the licence & not being able to drive the liz! This is why I want a laser detector, I never speed under bridges anyway for fear of these & always do keep a lookout but when it's late at night then they've got you (awaits someone to say you shouldn't be speeding then!!).
So, back to my orginal point what's the best form of protection ?
Thanks, I also can understand your feelings! you did nothing "wrong" you did not hurt or scare no one! you did not steal! you pay tax! ect ect...
But to go back for some help, this looks like a useful "parking" help
and can't be forbidden, and you don't have to prove that you have a garage door that opens with the other stuf...its just a parking help that also do not "help" the police hope this helps, but I have to say I don't know more about this, but the article looks ok...
It also helps against damaging your car specialy for a Exige where you can't see much through the window...this way it looks like a nice piece of help x2
www.ukspeedtraps.co.uk/laserpropark.htm
cheers
GTRene
>> Edited by GTRene on Saturday 27th May 17:18
Hollywood Wheels said:
Of course they then chucked in the obligatory aren't u a naughty boy speech, have you been drinking, is this car insured. Not sure if it was because I was in the liz & they thought "get the flash git", but when there's about 5 cars all going at the same pace, it does seem strange they pull me over.
Mate, take it like a man.
I think you meant "Mate, take it up the arse like every other motorist does".
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