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Hi everyone i wonderd if anyone could help me please? Im currently in the process of getting insurance quotes on either an elise s1 111s, or the bog std 1.8 convertable. I am confused as to why certain cars that are advertised as being 111s are coming up as sports convertables when i type in the number plates, but then other ones that are advertised as being 111s do state this when the number plate is typed in? Im getting confused by all this because i thought surely if its a 111s it would say this all the time & not be different at all. I hope this makes sense & would very much appreciate if somebody could explain the reasoning for this.. Cheers
Not very helpful, but buggered if I know. 111s is a factory model so they should all come up as that. Might it be the way they are entered into the insurers database? Is this one insurer or different ones?
I might be tempted to take advantage of the ones that list it as sports convertible as the 111s is at least 1 group higher than the standard Elise (18 as opposed to 17?). Their ignorance is your bliss.....
I might be tempted to take advantage of the ones that list it as sports convertible as the 111s is at least 1 group higher than the standard Elise (18 as opposed to 17?). Their ignorance is your bliss.....
The quotes are through "confused.com" & 3 out of the 5 111s i tried came up as sports conv, the other 2 actually stated that they were 111s. Could it be that people are modifying them with the upgrade? , when actually they are the std 1.8 conv & being sold as 111s to get more money for them? Mmmmmmm i wonder.
I seen a few of these when looking to buy mine.
There are some sellers (trade) who don't know the difference between models, this can work to your advantage if your careful. Be wary of models advertised as 111S that clearly aren't though. As you found out, there's as many either way round. You can almost forgive the trader this mistake, but you got to ask yourself how a private seller could possibly not know which type of lotus they are driving!
There are some sellers (trade) who don't know the difference between models, this can work to your advantage if your careful. Be wary of models advertised as 111S that clearly aren't though. As you found out, there's as many either way round. You can almost forgive the trader this mistake, but you got to ask yourself how a private seller could possibly not know which type of lotus they are driving!
Im glad im not the only one whos seen this then. Just bit weird people not knowing what they are driving, because surely it must say on the log book? I spoke to a dealer today who is selling a 111s & hes 100% sure it is one, but again the insurance company are telling me something different, & when i told the dealer this, he said it was because it had a private number plate & now gone back to the original, & thats why there is some confusion over what model it is. Mmmmmm i dissagree with this dealer because private plate, or no private plate, surely it was registerd with the original plate which is now back on, so it would say 111s if it was one.
The standard elise has the standard K Series engine, whereas the 111s has the variable valve engine and if pre 99 its also not a 111s look at the model breakdowns at www.elises.co.uk
I certainly wouldnt trust insurance databases!!!!
As has been said the differences between the standard elise and 111 are absolutely obvious, e.g. one has variable timing and one doesnt. Now I guess you could stuff a VVC engine in a standard car but just check the engine numbers carefully.
Insurance companies are generally rubbish...
As has been said the differences between the standard elise and 111 are absolutely obvious, e.g. one has variable timing and one doesnt. Now I guess you could stuff a VVC engine in a standard car but just check the engine numbers carefully.
Insurance companies are generally rubbish...
Most insurance companies barely know the difference between a Corsa and a Golf, giving them the choice of a standard S1, a 111S, a Sport 135 or heaven forbid, a Sport 160 and they usually shit the bed and start asking you how many doors it's got etc.
Don't worry, if you give them all the proper info you'll be fine. To be honest I'd just go for Elephant for a quote if it's not modified, they generally work out best. If there are mods then try the specialist brokers who actually know what you're talking about.
Don't worry, if you give them all the proper info you'll be fine. To be honest I'd just go for Elephant for a quote if it's not modified, they generally work out best. If there are mods then try the specialist brokers who actually know what you're talking about.
S Works said:
Most insurance companies barely know the difference between a Corsa and a Golf, giving them the choice of a standard S1, a 111S, a Sport 135 or heaven forbid, a Sport 160 and they usually shit the bed and start asking you how many doors it's got etc.
Try insuring a Sport 190.....
"It's an Elise Sport 190"
"Elise, 2 doors?"
"Er, yes"
"Sport 160?"
"No, 190"
"Sport 135?"
"Er, no. 190"
etc. until I finally let Chris Knott's people do the legwork as I'd had enough
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