0wned by an old Cav...
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I would be circumspect about speeds too much over 70 - on Seloc, quite a few blokes have been caught on motorways and a few have bans on the way. The elise is not a particularly aerodynamic car anyway. A good turbo diesel family estate will have most elises at higher speeds - power upgrades will help, but an 1800 engine is not going to be a high top-end rocket.
Get the car on the track and enjoy laying waste to lots of very expensive machinery with more bhp than you have. Or alternatively, stick to b-roads and be king.
Straight line speed is boring anyway. I had an M3 when I lived overseas and had the speed limiter taken off to let me get to aound 170+ mph. After a while it feels like "so what?".
Get the car on the track and enjoy laying waste to lots of very expensive machinery with more bhp than you have. Or alternatively, stick to b-roads and be king.
Straight line speed is boring anyway. I had an M3 when I lived overseas and had the speed limiter taken off to let me get to aound 170+ mph. After a while it feels like "so what?".
TIPPER said:
Try and console yourself with the thought that the liz isn't really about straight line speed. If you want more power from the K series have a look at dvapower.co.uk
Yup - don't give a feck. If you wanted a car that was quick in a straight line, you shouldn't have bought an Elise. It's about a whole lot more than the speed...
...or you can get a Honda or an Audi lump in the back and confuse a lot of people.
I have to concur with the above sentiments though, whilst now I could comfortably drag with some bigger more expensive machinery, my license is way more important.
And an Elise would DEFFO have had it in the bends
I have to concur with the above sentiments though, whilst now I could comfortably drag with some bigger more expensive machinery, my license is way more important.
And an Elise would DEFFO have had it in the bends

S Works said:
...or you can get a Honda or an Audi lump in the back and confuse a lot of people.
I have to concur with the above sentiments though, whilst now I could comfortably drag with some bigger more expensive machinery, my license is way more important.
And an Elise would DEFFO have had it in the bends
I have to concur with the above sentiments though, whilst now I could comfortably drag with some bigger more expensive machinery, my license is way more important.
And an Elise would DEFFO have had it in the bends

I am on Ph and not Seloc...aren't I ?
Perleeeese SWorks don't turn into a Honda bore

Moi!?
Seriously, depending what you want to achieve with the car and mods, think very seriously about spending big money on the engine. The cost/bhp gain gets very expensive (ask bogie!), and you need to be really sure before you shell-out.
As above, dvapower is a good source of info to start off with.
Most people go induction and better exhaust system first, generally then with a good 4-2-1 manifold before tinkering internally.
Seriously, depending what you want to achieve with the car and mods, think very seriously about spending big money on the engine. The cost/bhp gain gets very expensive (ask bogie!), and you need to be really sure before you shell-out.
As above, dvapower is a good source of info to start off with.
Most people go induction and better exhaust system first, generally then with a good 4-2-1 manifold before tinkering internally.
I wasn't racing, I was suprised he managed to keep up with me from exiting a small roundabout through the gears from 15 to 70+ mph... it was an old G reg Cav, which incidentally I let past (at about 85) on which the chav-ess in the passenger seat gave us the bird!!! It was a 2 litre, I just wish the Liz was a bit faster... hence the question about induction/exhaust - I will go down that route, before any head work (but after fixing the brakes/suspension), and wonder which are the ones of choice (K&N, PiperX etc.)?
Edited by GR1FF on Monday 19th June 15:15
wacattack said:
Why even give them the satisfaction of racing you. Its crazy racing on the roads, get yourself some driving lessons and take it to the track, and let the idiot boy racers kill themselves on the roads
Yep.. just not worth the effort.
Anyway, at the end of the day you are still driving one of the most beautiful cars ever produced (IMHO) which looks faster when it's standing still - probably why he wanted to race you off the lights. Just don't bother - he'll still be in a 'whatver'; you'll still be in the car he wants to beat

Surprised that a 2.0L Cavalier could stay with you to 70 Griff although when I first got my liz I was regularly embarressed by all sorts of mundane machinery. Thing was I'd spent over three years driving TDIs and expected instant shove from 2,000 rpm in the first four gears. Don't get much of a problem now I've found the engine's sweet spot but as has been said above and many other times on this forum best leave the Chavs and their Cavs to themselves and the accidents waiting to happen to them.
From what I've heard the K&N induction actaully loses you power in hot weather as it takes warm air from the engine bay. I've done some forum comparisons and the best induction is the ITG Maxogen (I think that's what it's called) but that's expensive. Next best compromise is the Hurricane. A sports exhaust will improve the engine note if it does nothing else and the throttle body is worth upgrading, although I have heard of issues following that. All relatively simple jobs and £700 should cover it.
Mind you I'd be amazed that even with the best of these three on it you get more than 10-15bhp as an absolute maximum. I think you have to do some serious mechanical work to get much more than that on the basic engine.
You could always save your pennies for a Honda or Audi upgrade, or best investment in the short term, some driver training to get the most out of the car as it is - I know I intend to!
Mind you I'd be amazed that even with the best of these three on it you get more than 10-15bhp as an absolute maximum. I think you have to do some serious mechanical work to get much more than that on the basic engine.
You could always save your pennies for a Honda or Audi upgrade, or best investment in the short term, some driver training to get the most out of the car as it is - I know I intend to!
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