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timoth

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110 posts

249 months

Tuesday 27th June 2006
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hi guys and gals it has been a while, have just come across a bit of a prob whilst having the cam belt done. it seems that my (very rusty) exhaust has given up and so i need a new 1 but which 1 ??????.
(its a standard serries 1)the only condition i have is that it can't be loud as the wife uses it most of the time (200-300 miles a week) and i would get serous greif if it was too noisy.
The contenders:
lotus £528 + VAT
bell & colvill £383
ellise parts £399.44
brook kensington £295 + VAT
larini clubsport £295 + VAT
larini sport £350 + VAT???
PTP (janspeed)
super sport £399.66
roadster £350.60
+ add £30 for mountings/gaskets ect
any feed back would b great as i need to get her back on the road asap
i have done a sarch on here and dosent semm to be much ont the s1, the janspeed seems to get mixed reviews and i have herd else where that the larini is a good zorst but people have had probs with delivery and fitting.

tuscan_thunder

1,763 posts

277 months

Tuesday 27th June 2006
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Speak to Jim (321freeflow) on here. He's the man for exhausts.

(If not Jim, then Eliseparts I'd say but I'd go with Jim's)

edited: it's 2bular the name of his company (I couldn't remember it)

Edited by tuscan_thunder on Tuesday 27th June 09:06

mr_c

2,508 posts

260 months

Tuesday 27th June 2006
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I've got a Larini on my S1.

I love the way it sounds, and it's about the right volume (I'd actually like it a bit louder, but I'm not sure my neighbours would), you can sit on a motorway at 80 and it's not at all intrusive. And the big tailpipes look cool.

I know a few people have had fitting problems though, mainly getting the tailpipes to sit straight (mine go to the left cos one of the exhaust mounts in knackered at the mo, but they don't hit the bodywork).

The quality and finish is good, mine's done 15k miles now without any issues (apart from the exhaust mount on the car), it was one of the first ones they sold, and my mate was that impressed that after racing each other across Europe for 1200 miles he went and swapped his Bell & Colville for a Larini.

Other than that, the EliseParts exhaust sounds nice, and it's louder.

Edited by mr_c on Tuesday 27th June 09:28

admoss

172 posts

278 months

Tuesday 27th June 2006
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I was speaking to Simon at Brooke Kensington the other day, as I need to replace my rusty exhaust too. They dont do their own system anymore. Haven't done for a while (2 years!!). They only do the Janspeed... Yes, their website is woefully out of date.

Timoth.. were are you getting your Larini prices from? Only seen it more expensive than that.

Edited by admoss on Tuesday 27th June 09:48

admoss

172 posts

278 months

Tuesday 27th June 2006
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Mr C. I fancy the Larini. Who fitted yours for you? Do you have to order it and then find a friendly garage to stick it on?

Cheers,
ADM

Edited by admoss on Tuesday 27th June 09:38

gooby

9,269 posts

265 months

Tuesday 27th June 2006
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Larini :drool:

mr_c

2,508 posts

260 months

Tuesday 27th June 2006
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admoss said:
Mr C. I fancy the Larini. Who fitted yours for you? Do you have to order it and then find a friendly garage to stick it on?

Cheers,
ADM

Edited by admoss on Tuesday 27th June 09:38


I ordered mine via their website and my local garage stuck it on for me. I don't think it's too difficult a job, Tony Hetherington did his on his S2 without any problems, but I didn't have time to do mine. And I couldn't be doing with the rusted bolts and all that...

Esprit off here has the full Larini system - manifold, de-cat and box/tailpipes. I think there's a link to the video clips he made in his profile. Sounds nice

mr_c

2,508 posts

260 months

Tuesday 27th June 2006
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Just to add, I think Horizon Motorsport will fit any exhaust system for you for a small fee.

TonyHetherington

32,091 posts

281 months

Tuesday 27th June 2006
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Another vote for Larini here! Fitted mine myself on my S2 - be aware I believe it's more difficult to fit on the S1 because the exhaust goes through the fibreglass body so some 'squeezing' is required, but it's very very do-able even for a less than experienced mechanically minded person.

Get the Larini, you won't be disappointed (and tell them Tony Hetherington sent you; they've GOT to start giving me commision some time soon )

timoth

Original Poster:

110 posts

249 months

Tuesday 27th June 2006
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admoss got the prices here www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=209610&f=15&h=0&hw=larini but just noticed that the thread was Oct 05 and thinking about it might include the discount???(see thread).Mr C/Tony Heatherington what is there web address, i plan on doing it my self with help from dad (ex formula ford driver/machanic). cheers for the feedback, has anyone got info/experiances of any of the others. my main concern is noise

TonyHetherington

32,091 posts

281 months

Tuesday 27th June 2006
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www.larinisystems.com

you're right the prices included a group buy discount (I think this forum bought around 30 in one go ). Noise wise - with just the backbox and still keeping your cat the noise is very good, not noisey or throbbing and is extremely acceptable on long motorway journeys for example.

admoss

172 posts

278 months

Tuesday 27th June 2006
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Sorry. Im a right noob when it comes to this sort of thing. Tony - which system is yours. Been watching your PH videos.. haha.. nice one But it sounds great. Is it sports or club sports?

Cheers,
ADM

timoth

Original Poster:

110 posts

249 months

Tuesday 27th June 2006
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Tony have just spoken to David at larini top bloke and had good things to say about you, he had to ring me back as on the fone to another s1 owner he said he can't keep them on the shelf and will be 10 days. will prob order later: just need to check with the wife(boss). any thoughts on a ITG panel filter (got to order fitting kit from elise parts any way)

P.S where can i find your vids david recomended them

Edited by timoth on Tuesday 27th June 10:40

TonyHetherington

32,091 posts

281 months

Tuesday 27th June 2006
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Hi guys

No worries at all - I was exactly the same when umming and urrring what exhaust to get and how to go about it!

To answer your questions specifically...

admoss said:
Is it sports or club sports?

To be honest, I don't know. When I bought my exhaust it was the only one they offered. From feedback from other clients they decided to then introduce two types - the sport and club sport and so mine was never designated as such. I THINK (but would heavily recommend checking with Larini) that mine is the clubsport 'equivalent' which is the more noisey of the two.

timoth said:
Tony have just spoken to David at larini top bloke and had good things to say about you


Excellent Yeah I remember he's a petrol head at heart and exactly the sort of bloke you want helping you make your decision. While I never had an problems at all - those that did said he resolved them very well also.

timoth said:
any thoughts on a ITG panel filter

I dont know a whole lot about them but my suggestion (which is what I did with my car) is to build the noise changes. So get the exhaust, get used to it, learn about how the exhaust changes the car (it does, alot) and then look at a filter. I had just the backbox for about 5 months before going for the de-cat too.

timoth said:
(got to order fitting kit from elise parts any way)

Yup - do it now!!!

timoth said:
P.S where can i find your vids david recomended them

Click on my profile (i.e. my name at the left of this post), and then the 'videos' tab. In there, amongst other things, are the Larini comparisons and fitting videos I made.

Hope that's all of help guys
Tony

TonyHetherington

32,091 posts

281 months

Tuesday 27th June 2006
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Ah, and this may be of more use (just managed to find it)...Esprit made a video of his S1 with Larini 4-2-1 manifold, exhaust, and de-cat available on this thread here...

www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=241151&f=15&h=0&hw=larini+video

mr_c

2,508 posts

260 months

Tuesday 27th June 2006
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timoth said:
Tony have just spoken to David at larini top bloke and had good things to say about you, he had to ring me back as on the fone to another s1 owner he said he can't keep them on the shelf and will be 10 days. will prob order later: just need to check with the wife(boss). any thoughts on a ITG panel filter (got to order fitting kit from elise parts any way)

P.S where can i find your vids david recomended them

Edited by timoth on Tuesday 27th June 10:40


the ITG won't make much difference. I've got a K&N cone filter and it makes no difference to performance, it's just louder.

You want the ClubSport exhaust by the way mate, none of this quiet stuff!!!

timoth

Original Poster:

110 posts

249 months

Tuesday 27th June 2006
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cheers Tony got a bit carried away (hence why always broke)that is top advice. on a serious not though is there anywhere that i can get paint in a spray can (azure blue B20)
as managed to scratch the main body on both sides while getting the clam off to do the cam belt. it's the area that is just in front of the clam where the door closes so is easy to mask and not connected to the clam so you will not notice difference in colour.
sorry have changed the subject a bit but need help (she dosen't know yet)
so might involve ,,,(devorce),
if i don't get her baby fixed

Mr C will prob go with the club but is not really my car so can't go all out

Edited by timoth on Tuesday 27th June 11:23

Sublime

142 posts

250 months

Tuesday 27th June 2006
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timoth said:
the clam off to do the cam belt


Bit late to post this but the cambelt on a S1 can be done through the drivers wheel arch...

Edited by Sublime on Tuesday 27th June 11:26

timoth

Original Poster:

110 posts

249 months

Tuesday 27th June 2006
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sublime: had herd that but me and machanic mate tried but gave up and took the clam off in the end

piooly

1,176 posts

256 months

Tuesday 27th June 2006
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Has anyone seen what the elise parts exhaust is like for the S1. It looks the most straight through one out there. I want it loud too. I currently have the Janspeed sports exhaust but I think it may need replacing soon. It sounds pretty good as I have the ceramic motorsport CAT aswell but seem as its never going on a motorway again, I can afford it too be louder !!!