any one got any experiences with 'garage door openers'?
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Just been looking on you tube at them ( yes i do mean lazer jammers) and they seem to work very well indeed, was just wondering if anyone knows if they are any good and also where one would be fitted to the elise.... Yes i also realise the money would be best spent on a track day where there are no limits but hey I feel like treating the girl to a new toy 
Be prepared for a large fine if you get caught using it - bear in mind that if the police cant charge you for speeding they will just trace you via your number plate and charge you for using a jammer instead 
Been there and done that when i saw my mate with his Saxo get done for this about a year & a half ago
Been there and done that when i saw my mate with his Saxo get done for this about a year & a half ago 
Yep, I have one. I have an integrated set up with a "laser garage door opener" which integrates a laser sensor, a primary laser sensor mounted high up behind the rear view mirror and a radar detector, all integrated into an Origin B2.
I have never had to use the laser door opener in anger, but the laser detector (mounted high) has given me warning plenty of times.
If I were to do it again I would still use the B2 (brilliant bit of kit) but I would loose the radar detector, just warns me if the traffic lights are about to change and not much use and I would go all out and get a full on laser diffuser. The new ones are FAR brighter and so therefore interfere with incoming signals for more efficiently. Built into the front grill they are very hard to spot and you can have a descrete "off" switch in the cab so the cops find it hard to locate the source of the signal.
TBH the most effective self protection method is to simply have a small accident and remove the front number plate. Keep it in the boot so if you get stopped, apologise and show the copper the 'plate and assure him it was knocked off by a speed bump. This will become less effective as the new 'van also have cameras that point at the rear of the vehicle in order to catch motorcycles.
I have never had to use the laser door opener in anger, but the laser detector (mounted high) has given me warning plenty of times.
If I were to do it again I would still use the B2 (brilliant bit of kit) but I would loose the radar detector, just warns me if the traffic lights are about to change and not much use and I would go all out and get a full on laser diffuser. The new ones are FAR brighter and so therefore interfere with incoming signals for more efficiently. Built into the front grill they are very hard to spot and you can have a descrete "off" switch in the cab so the cops find it hard to locate the source of the signal.
TBH the most effective self protection method is to simply have a small accident and remove the front number plate. Keep it in the boot so if you get stopped, apologise and show the copper the 'plate and assure him it was knocked off by a speed bump. This will become less effective as the new 'van also have cameras that point at the rear of the vehicle in order to catch motorcycles.
jondude said:
Alex,
If they don't pull you over at the roadside and get proof of the jammer there and then, how on earth can they track and trace you for any offence through your plate?
What can they do unless you incriminate yourself and admit to it?
Basically what happened was 1 week after my mate used his jammer when passing a mobile camera 2 pc's arrived on his doorstep having traced him via his reg number - they took a look at his car saw the 'door opener' fitted to his front grille asked him to open his garage with it - clearly he couldnt do it so he was threatened with prosecution but in the end just finedIf they don't pull you over at the roadside and get proof of the jammer there and then, how on earth can they track and trace you for any offence through your plate?
What can they do unless you incriminate yourself and admit to it?
Alexbturbo said:
jondude said:
Alex,
If they don't pull you over at the roadside and get proof of the jammer there and then, how on earth can they track and trace you for any offence through your plate?
What can they do unless you incriminate yourself and admit to it?
Basically what happened was 1 week after my mate used his jammer when passing a mobile camera 2 pc's arrived on his doorstep having traced him via his reg number - they took a look at his car saw the 'door opener' fitted to his front grille asked him to open his garage with it - clearly he couldnt do it so he was threatened with prosecution but in the end just finedIf they don't pull you over at the roadside and get proof of the jammer there and then, how on earth can they track and trace you for any offence through your plate?
What can they do unless you incriminate yourself and admit to it?
There is/was a new one thats linked to a GPS database, that can identify the targetting device & reply with a signal that simulates the corrected/adjusted signal beam back to said device.
On one count very very clever, number two it kinda proves the devices aimed at us are indeed not infallable at all. I've not seen one yet but knew of its devolopment sometime last year, allegedly very effective indeed.
Would be interesting to see that one in court eh? Your device fuddles our speed camers, no they are infallable you said, errr
On one count very very clever, number two it kinda proves the devices aimed at us are indeed not infallable at all. I've not seen one yet but knew of its devolopment sometime last year, allegedly very effective indeed.
Would be interesting to see that one in court eh? Your device fuddles our speed camers, no they are infallable you said, errr
Alexbturbo said:
jondude said:
Alex,
If they don't pull you over at the roadside and get proof of the jammer there and then, how on earth can they track and trace you for any offence through your plate?
What can they do unless you incriminate yourself and admit to it?
Basically what happened was 1 week after my mate used his jammer when passing a mobile camera 2 pc's arrived on his doorstep having traced him via his reg number - they took a look at his car saw the 'door opener' fitted to his front grille asked him to open his garage with it - clearly he couldnt do it so he was threatened with prosecution but in the end just finedIf they don't pull you over at the roadside and get proof of the jammer there and then, how on earth can they track and trace you for any offence through your plate?
What can they do unless you incriminate yourself and admit to it?
I beleive the Parking Sensor option is the better option. Self install them, and then have them perminantely on whenever the ignition is turned on. Easy to argue that you need a front sensor as the car is so low. Needs to be perminantely on, as you would have to remember to flip a switch each time you park. Same arguement for the Rear as it was installed as an after thought, its not wired to be engaged to the Reverse gear being used.
Garage door openers, need to be shown as being used to open Garage doors. Goobys example of his mate having a visit is not unique. There have been a couple of examples where people have had visits from the Police and the car has been impounded as a result of non-performing garage door opening.
The Garage door example also leaves you open to the charge of "Perverting the course of Justice" or something like that, which has a far greater sentence/fine associated to it than the Speeding fine you potentially avoid.
Garage door openers, need to be shown as being used to open Garage doors. Goobys example of his mate having a visit is not unique. There have been a couple of examples where people have had visits from the Police and the car has been impounded as a result of non-performing garage door opening.
The Garage door example also leaves you open to the charge of "Perverting the course of Justice" or something like that, which has a far greater sentence/fine associated to it than the Speeding fine you potentially avoid.
Whilst in principle I'm fascinated by these things, I can't help but think you're just better off not driving at speeds where you really need them on the public roads.
If you are, perhaps joining LoT and getting the car on track would be a better way of spending the money and getting the 'fast-fix' that you need now and again. Meantime crack, you live in the heart of some of the best driving land in this country. Get out up into the Lakes and Dales, you won't need to break any speed limit to have the drives of your life!
If you are, perhaps joining LoT and getting the car on track would be a better way of spending the money and getting the 'fast-fix' that you need now and again. Meantime crack, you live in the heart of some of the best driving land in this country. Get out up into the Lakes and Dales, you won't need to break any speed limit to have the drives of your life!
S Works said:
Whilst in principle I'm fascinated by these things, I can't help but think you're just better off not driving at speeds where you really need them on the public roads.
If you are, perhaps joining LoT and getting the car on track would be a better way of spending the money and getting the 'fast-fix' that you need now and again. Meantime crack, you live in the heart of some of the best driving land in this country. Get out up into the Lakes and Dales, you won't need to break any speed limit to have the drives of your life!
coffee hits screen, keyboard and all over the wall...If you are, perhaps joining LoT and getting the car on track would be a better way of spending the money and getting the 'fast-fix' that you need now and again. Meantime crack, you live in the heart of some of the best driving land in this country. Get out up into the Lakes and Dales, you won't need to break any speed limit to have the drives of your life!
Is that cos you never speed?
Gooby said:
S Works said:
Whilst in principle I'm fascinated by these things, I can't help but think you're just better off not driving at speeds where you really need them on the public roads.
If you are, perhaps joining LoT and getting the car on track would be a better way of spending the money and getting the 'fast-fix' that you need now and again. Meantime crack, you live in the heart of some of the best driving land in this country. Get out up into the Lakes and Dales, you won't need to break any speed limit to have the drives of your life!
coffee hits screen, keyboard and all over the wall...If you are, perhaps joining LoT and getting the car on track would be a better way of spending the money and getting the 'fast-fix' that you need now and again. Meantime crack, you live in the heart of some of the best driving land in this country. Get out up into the Lakes and Dales, you won't need to break any speed limit to have the drives of your life!
Is that cos you never speed?
S Works said:
Whilst in principle I'm fascinated by these things, I can't help but think you're just better off not driving at speeds where you really need them on the public roads.
If you are, perhaps joining LoT and getting the car on track would be a better way of spending the money and getting the 'fast-fix' that you need now and again. Meantime crack, you live in the heart of some of the best driving land in this country. Get out up into the Lakes and Dales, you won't need to break any speed limit to have the drives of your life!
I do know what you mean, trying to average 60 around some twisties round here is a task and a half, recon i'm more likely to get caught in the van doing 35 in a 30, but hey i've got a compuslive 'buy for the lotus' disorder If you are, perhaps joining LoT and getting the car on track would be a better way of spending the money and getting the 'fast-fix' that you need now and again. Meantime crack, you live in the heart of some of the best driving land in this country. Get out up into the Lakes and Dales, you won't need to break any speed limit to have the drives of your life!
although these jammers do appear to work, this story i read at the weekend does show the downsides
http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2007370155,00...
http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2007370155,00...
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