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slatess1

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437 posts

245 months

Monday 13th August 2007
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Good Afternoon,

Posted this on seloc also so apologies if youve already read...

Recently had quite abit of engine work carried out on the car (s1 exige k series) and engine has been dyno'd to 230bhp and 160lbs torque through scholar / hanger 111.

Im currently running a standard base map on the emerald to run it in to identify flat spots etc and then off to emerald for a proper map to be uploaded.

Now, although the car is very quick (mostly in the top rev range at present), i dont think its anywhere near the power its capable of yet with the base map currently running.

Has anyone else run a base map then gone to emerald for a remap? Is there a significant difference in power delivery once emerald get their hands on it compared to what a base map will deliver?!?

Your thoughts are much appreciated...

S Works

10,166 posts

281 months

Monday 13th August 2007
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Not speaking from experience, BUT, I would imagine that a trip to Emerald will see Mr Walker work his magic to ensure that you get the best delivery of power and torque across the rev range with what you have.

From your SELOC post it's clear that you've invested heavily in this build, so best of luck with getting it all set-up nicely. Should be one of the most sorted K-series cars out there thumbup

bogie

17,106 posts

303 months

Monday 13th August 2007
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whats the spec of the engine - then we can advise if thats a typical output for it ?

in my own experience, when running an EMerald/TT engined car and having it remapped from the base map to suit my own exhaust arrangement etc then the gains are not huge - like 3-5%...but the torque and power delivery are perfect...so its definately worthwhile doing

slatess1

Original Poster:

437 posts

245 months

Monday 13th August 2007
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bogie said:
whats the spec of the engine - then we can advise if thats a typical output for it ?

in my own experience, when running an EMerald/TT engined car and having it remapped from the base map to suit my own exhaust arrangement etc then the gains are not huge - like 3-5%...but the torque and power delivery are perfect...so its definately worthwhile doing
Really appreciate your responses chaps... Engine mods are on my profile page. Engine is NA at present... Would love a SC but i really dont think the K series could handle it lol and i havent enough at the moment to do a honda sc conversion although that would be a dream come true!!

Ideally its the torque increases i want in the lower rpm band if possible. I know you two are very knowledgeable with this kind of thing, jhust wanted to know really if youve heard if this was possible to do...

rfoster

1,482 posts

285 months

Monday 13th August 2007
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I've had mine done at Emerald - mine was supplied with a basic map by DVA which was about 95% correct for my car. Emerald pretty much just fined tuned it from there, dialled a load of overfuelling out. Car ran more smoothly than before with a great linear power curve. Very worthwhile!

bogie

17,106 posts

303 months

Monday 13th August 2007
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well I think the most powerful, fully sorted 1.9L Ks Ive heard of are doing 250bhp ish...but I wouldnt want to run it in that trim for long - its the revs that kill them.

Id go for something like 230bhp, keep the revs to 8000rpm and ask Dave to give as much torque/wide powerband as possible

if you rev to 8500 then its not going to last you very long frown ....I take it you have a big oil cooler on there !

slatess1

Original Poster:

437 posts

245 months

Monday 13th August 2007
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bogie said:
well I think the most powerful, fully sorted 1.9L Ks Ive heard of are doing 250bhp ish...but I wouldnt want to run it in that trim for long - its the revs that kill them.

Id go for something like 230bhp, keep the revs to 8000rpm and ask Dave to give as much torque/wide powerband as possible

if you rev to 8500 then its not going to last you very long frown ....I take it you have a big oil cooler on there !
I believe its been dyno'd to 230bhp ish with 160lbs torque. more torque over a wider power band is what im looking for. If dave can do that then im laughing!!

I wasnt aware the rev limiter went upto 8500 rpm? Only states 8000 on my stack and i generally dont go above 7000 to be safe...

Only mods ive made with regards to oil are a baffled sump and a remote thermostat for cooling, your going to tell me thats not good enough now arnt you, oh dear...

slatess1

Original Poster:

437 posts

245 months

Monday 13th August 2007
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rfoster said:
I've had mine done at Emerald - mine was supplied with a basic map by DVA which was about 95% correct for my car. Emerald pretty much just fined tuned it from there, dialled a load of overfuelling out. Car ran more smoothly than before with a great linear power curve. Very worthwhile!
Sounds promising biggrin

bogie

17,106 posts

303 months

Monday 13th August 2007
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slatess1 said:
bogie said:
well I think the most powerful, fully sorted 1.9L Ks Ive heard of are doing 250bhp ish...but I wouldnt want to run it in that trim for long - its the revs that kill them.

Id go for something like 230bhp, keep the revs to 8000rpm and ask Dave to give as much torque/wide powerband as possible

if you rev to 8500 then its not going to last you very long frown ....I take it you have a big oil cooler on there !
I believe its been dyno'd to 230bhp ish with 160lbs torque. more torque over a wider power band is what im looking for. If dave can do that then im laughing!!

I wasnt aware the rev limiter went upto 8500 rpm? Only states 8000 on my stack and i generally dont go above 7000 to be safe...

Only mods ive made with regards to oil are a baffled sump and a remote thermostat for cooling, your going to tell me thats not good enough now arnt you, oh dear...
some people rev them to 8500 or 9000rpm to make the power .....baffled sump and remote stat is good...im sure you have an oil cooler on an Exige anyway...just keep an eye on the oil temps on track

slatess1

Original Poster:

437 posts

245 months

Monday 13th August 2007
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bogie said:
slatess1 said:
bogie said:
well I think the most powerful, fully sorted 1.9L Ks Ive heard of are doing 250bhp ish...but I wouldnt want to run it in that trim for long - its the revs that kill them.

Id go for something like 230bhp, keep the revs to 8000rpm and ask Dave to give as much torque/wide powerband as possible

if you rev to 8500 then its not going to last you very long frown ....I take it you have a big oil cooler on there !
I believe its been dyno'd to 230bhp ish with 160lbs torque. more torque over a wider power band is what im looking for. If dave can do that then im laughing!!

I wasnt aware the rev limiter went upto 8500 rpm? Only states 8000 on my stack and i generally dont go above 7000 to be safe...

Only mods ive made with regards to oil are a baffled sump and a remote thermostat for cooling, your going to tell me thats not good enough now arnt you, oh dear...
some people rev them to 8500 or 9000rpm to make the power .....baffled sump and remote stat is good...im sure you have an oil cooler on an Exige anyway...just keep an eye on the oil temps on track
Had the oil temp / pressure gages plumbed in to keep an eye on things to be on the safe side... At least im heading in the right direction! Will book in with dave @ emerald and see what happens... Really appreciate the advise guys, have a pleasant evening!