111r - reliable?
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Having owned the k series engine in the 111s, it provided me with over 24,000 miles that were totally trouble free.
I changed the 111s to get a 111r and believed that in terms of reliablity it was a step forwards. Toyota engine is 'unbreakable' as I was told. Bit disappointed then to get in the car this morning, turn the key and find the car is totally dead - think it's a starter motor but could be wrong?
Currently carless, sitting in work, extensive phone calls to the AA [covered under warranty] and hopefully getting the car picked up in the morning and delivered to Formula One in Newcastle.
Bugger!
May have to join the k-series supporters group now.
Zebra
I changed the 111s to get a 111r and believed that in terms of reliablity it was a step forwards. Toyota engine is 'unbreakable' as I was told. Bit disappointed then to get in the car this morning, turn the key and find the car is totally dead - think it's a starter motor but could be wrong?
Currently carless, sitting in work, extensive phone calls to the AA [covered under warranty] and hopefully getting the car picked up in the morning and delivered to Formula One in Newcastle.
Bugger!
May have to join the k-series supporters group now.
Zebra
zebra said:
Having owned the k series engine in the 111s, it provided me with over 24,000 miles that were totally trouble free.
I changed the 111s to get a 111r and believed that in terms of reliablity it was a step forwards. Toyota engine is 'unbreakable' as I was told. Bit disappointed then to get in the car this morning, turn the key and find the car is totally dead - think it's a starter motor but could be wrong?
Currently carless, sitting in work, extensive phone calls to the AA [covered under warranty] and hopefully getting the car picked up in the morning and delivered to Formula One in Newcastle.
Bugger!
May have to join the k-series supporters group now.
Zebra
I don't think that you can judge a engine/car on one problem, sound's to me like your battery is flat it's up to you but I'd have a Toyota engine over Rover any day your post did make me laughI changed the 111s to get a 111r and believed that in terms of reliablity it was a step forwards. Toyota engine is 'unbreakable' as I was told. Bit disappointed then to get in the car this morning, turn the key and find the car is totally dead - think it's a starter motor but could be wrong?
Currently carless, sitting in work, extensive phone calls to the AA [covered under warranty] and hopefully getting the car picked up in the morning and delivered to Formula One in Newcastle.
Bugger!
May have to join the k-series supporters group now.
Zebra
Boggy
Hi Boggy
Wasn't being serious - would not go back to k series.
No, it's not the battery - drove it 10 minutes earlier and it was fine, remembered that my office keys were in the house so turned back. Parked up on the road, went into the house, came back out - nothing.
The liz is my everyday drive so a flat battery would be unusual. Don't think it's electrical either unless a loose connection somewhere - dash lights up with all the symbols, but the engine light stayed on? Now in 20-odd thousand miles in this car I cannot remember whether the engine light stays on until the engine has started or not?
Last piece of info - the MIL light did flash on the return journey to the house.
Zebra
Wasn't being serious - would not go back to k series.
No, it's not the battery - drove it 10 minutes earlier and it was fine, remembered that my office keys were in the house so turned back. Parked up on the road, went into the house, came back out - nothing.
The liz is my everyday drive so a flat battery would be unusual. Don't think it's electrical either unless a loose connection somewhere - dash lights up with all the symbols, but the engine light stayed on? Now in 20-odd thousand miles in this car I cannot remember whether the engine light stays on until the engine has started or not?
Last piece of info - the MIL light did flash on the return journey to the house.
Zebra
zebra said:
tricky 100 said:
If its totally dead, ie no ignition lights or interior power then its more likely your battery .
No got lights.Boggy
Boggy said:
zebra said:
tricky 100 said:
If its totally dead, ie no ignition lights or interior power then its more likely your battery .
No got lights.Boggy
Sounds like a flat battery. Lights take next no power at all and you might still get them if the battery is next to flat. To start the car will need about 12volts. You could have 5or6 volts left.
Does the immobiliser still come on and off? If not very low battery.
Does the starter turn over? If not I would say that it is a very weak battery.
If you get a ticking sound only, when you try and start her up. That would also suggest a very weak battery.
If it is the battery then it could be the following: Battery has gone? Interior light or something was left on and flattened it. Alternator has gone and not charged up the battery (I have an S2 Exige and although I garage it, when touring it is in the open and it does concern me with all the rain that goes straight in the engine bay and onto the alternator).
I don't think that it is you immobiliser because the car will turn over but won't fire.
Does the immobiliser still come on and off? If not very low battery.
Does the starter turn over? If not I would say that it is a very weak battery.
If you get a ticking sound only, when you try and start her up. That would also suggest a very weak battery.
If it is the battery then it could be the following: Battery has gone? Interior light or something was left on and flattened it. Alternator has gone and not charged up the battery (I have an S2 Exige and although I garage it, when touring it is in the open and it does concern me with all the rain that goes straight in the engine bay and onto the alternator).
I don't think that it is you immobiliser because the car will turn over but won't fire.
No engine and its ancillaries are faultless. And nobody said the 111R engine is unbreakable. It's just that it tends to be inexpensive and rare things that happen to it. Every now and then you'll hear of one blowing up in spectacular style but then you also occasionally see a Ferrari or Porsche with smoke pooring from the engine bay on the hard shoulder...
A flashing MIL is a big no-no. If it comes on and remains on, then you can continue to drive and get it looked at soonest.
Flshing MIL means pull over immediately. Not sure what the EMS does once the ignition is turned off after the MIL starts to flash, it maybe a safety feature that it does not allow the car to be restarted until the ECU has been reset.
Just my 2p's worth
Flshing MIL means pull over immediately. Not sure what the EMS does once the ignition is turned off after the MIL starts to flash, it maybe a safety feature that it does not allow the car to be restarted until the ECU has been reset.
Just my 2p's worth
Snapper7 said:
Sounds like a flat battery. Lights take next no power at all and you might still get them if the battery is next to flat. To start the car will need about 12volts. You could have 5or6 volts left.
Does the immobiliser still come on and off? If not very low battery.
Does the starter turn over? If not I would say that it is a very weak battery.
If you get a ticking sound only, when you try and start her up. That would also suggest a very weak battery.
If it is the battery then it could be the following: Battery has gone? Interior light or something was left on and flattened it. Alternator has gone and not charged up the battery (I have an S2 Exige and although I garage it, when touring it is in the open and it does concern me with all the rain that goes straight in the engine bay and onto the alternator).
I don't think that it is you immobiliser because the car will turn over but won't fire.
Alarm working - no immobiliser light.Does the immobiliser still come on and off? If not very low battery.
Does the starter turn over? If not I would say that it is a very weak battery.
If you get a ticking sound only, when you try and start her up. That would also suggest a very weak battery.
If it is the battery then it could be the following: Battery has gone? Interior light or something was left on and flattened it. Alternator has gone and not charged up the battery (I have an S2 Exige and although I garage it, when touring it is in the open and it does concern me with all the rain that goes straight in the engine bay and onto the alternator).
I don't think that it is you immobiliser because the car will turn over but won't fire.
Interior light not left on.
Car was driven for approximately 10 miles prior to stopping [in daylight] no lights or stereo on.
Car is garaged - weather was dry [unusally so].
Zebra
Beachbum said:
A flashing MIL is a big no-no. If it comes on and remains on, then you can continue to drive and get it looked at soonest.
Flshing MIL means pull over immediately. Not sure what the EMS does once the ignition is turned off after the MIL starts to flash, it maybe a safety feature that it does not allow the car to be restarted until the ECU has been reset.
Just my 2p's worth
Could well be a possibility.Flshing MIL means pull over immediately. Not sure what the EMS does once the ignition is turned off after the MIL starts to flash, it maybe a safety feature that it does not allow the car to be restarted until the ECU has been reset.
Just my 2p's worth
zebra
Does fuel pump prime when you turn the key to ignition on (not cranking)? You'll hear the whine. If not, check the interia switch hasn't popped. If it is, the start *could* be stuck. Pop the car in 4th gear and get out of the acar, handbrake off, and rock the car back & forwards. This will usually pop the spindle back into the starter motor - it's not unheard of for it to get stuck. Happened frequently on my old S1.
rfoster said:
Does fuel pump prime when you turn the key to ignition on (not cranking)? You'll hear the whine. If not, check the interia switch hasn't popped. If it is, the start *could* be stuck. Pop the car in 4th gear and get out of the acar, handbrake off, and rock the car back & forwards. This will usually pop the spindle back into the starter motor - it's not unheard of for it to get stuck. Happened frequently on my old S1.
Fuel pump is priming.AA visiting tonight at 6.00pm after I have blagged a lift home.
Zebra
NathanE said:
Paul RN said:
zebra said:
Toyota engine is 'unbreakable' as I was told.
Hmm you didn't ask them about oil starvation on hard cornering then?Edited by kevin ritson on Monday 20th August 21:23
zebra said:
Having owned the k series engine in the 111s, it provided me with over 24,000 miles that were totally trouble free.
I changed the 111s to get a 111r and believed that in terms of reliablity it was a step forwards. Toyota engine is 'unbreakable' as I was told. Bit disappointed then to get in the car this morning, turn the key and find the car is totally dead - think it's a starter motor but could be wrong?
Currently carless, sitting in work, extensive phone calls to the AA [covered under warranty] and hopefully getting the car picked up in the morning and delivered to Formula One in Newcastle.
Bugger!
May have to join the k-series supporters group now.
Zebra
Get an M100. Much more reliable and just a quick.I changed the 111s to get a 111r and believed that in terms of reliablity it was a step forwards. Toyota engine is 'unbreakable' as I was told. Bit disappointed then to get in the car this morning, turn the key and find the car is totally dead - think it's a starter motor but could be wrong?
Currently carless, sitting in work, extensive phone calls to the AA [covered under warranty] and hopefully getting the car picked up in the morning and delivered to Formula One in Newcastle.
Bugger!
May have to join the k-series supporters group now.
Zebra
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