BoLOCs at Bedford
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fatwomble said:
Just back from Bedford, what an excellent day, thanks Sue for getting me back to Winchester.
Olly, sorry I didn't get to say hello, didn't actually see you out of the car.
here are a few pictures
Sunday nights top quality restaurant
BoLOCs and friends in action
Good to see you all.
hey Mark. could have told me you had your bloody camera with you and were taking pics on the sly !!! HAHA. Good to meet you hope the sat nav got you back alright. Took me and simon about 2.5 hrs... VGood evening and day all round!!!Olly, sorry I didn't get to say hello, didn't actually see you out of the car.
here are a few pictures
Sunday nights top quality restaurant
BoLOCs and friends in action
Good to see you all.
Another good day at bedford, hope everyone got home safe. Started off with a fair few cock-ups but gradually got back up to speed. Nice to meet a few new faces too, having been out of the loop for a while.
Passenger ride in Simon's newly aquired 350Z was one of the highlights, where virtually every corner was taken at a grin-inducing drift angle.
Will see if I have any decent photos tomorrow.
Passenger ride in Simon's newly aquired 350Z was one of the highlights, where virtually every corner was taken at a grin-inducing drift angle.
Will see if I have any decent photos tomorrow.
Another quality Bank Hol LoT day at Bedford. Great weather, the usual great company (and some new faces to put to names which was superb - womble, John & SimonK Snr).
Sorry to disappoint Mr Monkey, but only one spin this time, last session, and very much without drama. You'll have to try even harder to keep up nowadays, I can almost keep up with the shangmeister and SimonK now
although props do go to the purple monster who's braking ability on those massive AP's is nothing short of legendary.
So, back to the spinning thang. You'll note that the picture of Christian going down the pit straight there is amongst a not insignificant amount of tyre smoke. What you didn't see is the reason for that tyre smoke, namely Capt. Nige and the good ship Heesen doing the worlds loudest 180 off the right-hander onto the pit straight... promptly followed by ChristianM pirouetting in sympathy.
Top work boys
Sorry to disappoint Mr Monkey, but only one spin this time, last session, and very much without drama. You'll have to try even harder to keep up nowadays, I can almost keep up with the shangmeister and SimonK now
although props do go to the purple monster who's braking ability on those massive AP's is nothing short of legendary.So, back to the spinning thang. You'll note that the picture of Christian going down the pit straight there is amongst a not insignificant amount of tyre smoke. What you didn't see is the reason for that tyre smoke, namely Capt. Nige and the good ship Heesen doing the worlds loudest 180 off the right-hander onto the pit straight... promptly followed by ChristianM pirouetting in sympathy.
Top work boys
S Works said:
So, back to the spinning thing. You'll note that the picture of Christian going down the pit straight there is not an insignificant amount of tyre smoke. What you didn't see is the reason for that tyre smoke, namely Capt. Nige and the good ship Heesen doing the worlds loudest 180 off the right-hander onto the pit straight... promptly followed by ChristianM pirouetting in sympathy.
Top work boys
Thanks Tim !Top work boys
It took alot of rehearsing to get it right
S Works said:
You'll have to try even harder to keep up nowadays, I can almost keep up with the shangmeister and SimonK now
That was a really fun day - I had great fun having a hoon with Tim and then BJ. Tim, your driving has come on in leaps and bounds - I was trying to keep you in touch to follow lines etc as I was doing when following you. I would have thought that your power advantage over Simon would have been significant. Both our cars seem to be suffering from pretty poor braking it seemed, though yours more so than mine. BTW, all you people spinning past the pits are almost certainly gripping the steering wheel too tight - there is a bump midway between turn-in and apex which unsettles the car. If you overgrip, the back steps out a bit and then if you lift, you are toast. Soft hands on the wheel seems to negate the bump - a bit like Washy's high speed corner.
Edited by shangani on Tuesday 28th August 19:13
S Works said:
Another quality Bank Hol LoT day at Bedford. Great weather, the usual great company (and some new faces to put to names which was superb - womble, John & SimonK Snr).
Sorry to disappoint Mr Monkey, but only one spin this time, last session, and very much without drama. You'll have to try even harder to keep up nowadays, I can almost keep up with the shangmeister and SimonK now although props do go to the purple monster who's braking ability on those massive AP's is nothing short of legendary.
So, back to the spinning thang. You'll note that the picture of Christian going down the pit straight there is amongst a not insignificant amount of tyre smoke. What you didn't see is the reason for that tyre smoke, namely Capt. Nige and the good ship Heesen doing the worlds loudest 180 off the right-hander onto the pit straight... promptly followed by ChristianM pirouetting in sympathy.
Top work boys
Tim, thanks for the warm welcome, from you, and the other guys & girl! A great day had by all. Really enjoyed the circuit and the company.Sorry to disappoint Mr Monkey, but only one spin this time, last session, and very much without drama. You'll have to try even harder to keep up nowadays, I can almost keep up with the shangmeister and SimonK now
although props do go to the purple monster who's braking ability on those massive AP's is nothing short of legendary.So, back to the spinning thang. You'll note that the picture of Christian going down the pit straight there is amongst a not insignificant amount of tyre smoke. What you didn't see is the reason for that tyre smoke, namely Capt. Nige and the good ship Heesen doing the worlds loudest 180 off the right-hander onto the pit straight... promptly followed by ChristianM pirouetting in sympathy.
Top work boys
With regards to tyre smoke from Christian and his pirouetting .. it could be this your refering too!
http://forums.seloc.org/viewthread.php?tid=133003&...
shangani said:
S Works said:
You'll have to try even harder to keep up nowadays, I can almost keep up with the shangmeister and SimonK now
That was a really fun day - I had great fun having a hoon with Tim and then BJ. Tim, your driving has come on in leaps and bounds - I was trying to keep you in touch to follow lines etc as I was doing when following you. I would have thought that your power advantage over Simon would have been significant. Both our cars seem to be suffering from pretty poor braking it seemed, though yours more so than mine. Power vs. Mr SimonK isn't an issue, but he's very quick around the corners. Hat's off to the boy, all those hours on track have paid out.
I've also realised I'm a pussy on the brakes, and that's the next thing for me to work on, because I know that when I relax I'm a pretty smooth driver and have reasonable lines. That's the joy, always something new to learn eh?
shangani said:
BTW, all you people spinning past the pits are almost certainly gripping the steering wheel too tight - there is a bump midway between turn-in and apex which unsettles the car. If you overgrip, the back steps out a bit and then if you lift, you are toast. Soft hands on the wheel seems to negate the bump - a bit like Washy's high speed corner.
Agreed. Having had one almighty spin there at 90+mph that's exactly what I did wrong. Now I've learned to believe in the car and drive much more smoothly on a balanced throttle through the bend it's relatively easy to carry a lot of speed through it.shangani said:
BTW, all you people spinning past the pits are almost certainly gripping the steering wheel too tight - there is a bump midway between turn-in and apex which unsettles the car. If you overgrip, the back steps out a bit and then if you lift, you are toast. Soft hands on the wheel seems to negate the bump - a bit like Washy's high speed corner.
Aye, first instructor session I had the chap told me to hold off a little on the gas when turning in, "I'll tell you why later". Since that was the unfortunate day when a VX and Noble came together at that corner, I'm glad I took his advice 
S Works said:
Sorry to disappoint Mr Monkey, but only one spin this time, last session, and very much without drama.
boooo only kiddin, far better to keep it on the black 
S Works said:
Power vs. Mr SimonK isn't an issue, but he's very quick around the corners. Hat's off to the boy, all those hours on track have paid out.
Sounds like the hours you have put in have paid off too dude, keeping up with KSimon & Shangani!S Works said:
You'll note that the picture of Christian going down the pit straight there is amongst a not insignificant amount of tyre smoke.
Good work Christian ... that's probably one of the best photos of a pit straight spin i've seen Did you hold it? Not sure it would beat Sworks 360, cog drop down and continuez tout droit from last year tho!S Works said:
I've also realised I'm a pussy on the brakes, and that's the next thing for me to work on, because I know that when I relax I'm a pretty smooth driver and have reasonable lines. That's the joy, always something new to learn eh?
That's one of my biggest let down's too.. Co-pilot Twinpipe had me braking like a mo-fo at Combe last time having pointed out what a pansy I was being. Really made a big difference. Taking it right up to locking every braking zone. I've got a bit more confidence with the RS42s which don't fade as easily and seem to bite harder. I do have a bit of mechanical sympathy when i really hammer it tho, still... that's why there there huh!Great day, sorry I didnt get to chat much but I had fuel to burn 
Didnt capture as much on the camera as I hoped either - need to learn how to work it, the tape only lasts an hour 
Never saw Andrew all day so didnt get my Honda ride
I think I've got the hang of braking to the max now, so much so that I had a fair few instances of hitting the brake or clutch pedal to find nothing there, scary at the end of the flat out left hander! I think its time to upgrade the brake fluid!
Not sure if balanced throttle is the way to do the pit lane bend, Tim. Andrew is right, people were fighting the car too much through there. I found if I hooked a fair bit of the kerb (ok then, most of it) I could be flat out from the turn in onwards, if I got something wrong theres loads of run off that you can just let the car drift onto. Mind you with the extra power you have you might need to balance to keep it straight!
Didnt capture as much on the camera as I hoped either - need to learn how to work it, the tape only lasts an hour Never saw Andrew all day so didnt get my Honda ride I think I've got the hang of braking to the max now, so much so that I had a fair few instances of hitting the brake or clutch pedal to find nothing there, scary at the end of the flat out left hander! I think its time to upgrade the brake fluid!
Not sure if balanced throttle is the way to do the pit lane bend, Tim. Andrew is right, people were fighting the car too much through there. I found if I hooked a fair bit of the kerb (ok then, most of it) I could be flat out from the turn in onwards, if I got something wrong theres loads of run off that you can just let the car drift onto. Mind you with the extra power you have you might need to balance to keep it straight!
Yup another great day
Good to see familiar faces and meet a couple of new ones.
John - that elise that caught us up on the m6 just before you turned off convoyed with me all the way to preston! lol
Oh and getting faster has its costs, it seems tyres are only lasting 3 days now instead of 4
Good to see familiar faces and meet a couple of new ones.
John - that elise that caught us up on the m6 just before you turned off convoyed with me all the way to preston! lol
Oh and getting faster has its costs, it seems tyres are only lasting 3 days now instead of 4
SimonK said:
Oh and getting faster has its costs, it seems tyres are only lasting 3 days now instead of 4
Ahh the price of progress. You certainly have found some extra speed over the summer, all those mods are really starting to come together now and you're making good use of them - especially those anchors!Grinzzz said:
Not sure if balanced throttle is the way to do the pit lane bend, Tim. Andrew is right, people were fighting the car too much through there. I found if I hooked a fair bit of the kerb (ok then, most of it) I could be flat out from the turn in onwards, if I got something wrong theres loads of run off that you can just let the car drift onto. Mind you with the extra power you have you might need to balance to keep it straight!
Definitely not balanced throttle imho - get the car rotated early - slight dab on brake to get the nose down at turn-in than full throttle from about 6-7 yard before the apex. Soft hands over the bump and start unwinding the lock early while under full power. Gives much better exit speed.SimonK said:
Yup another great day
Good to see familiar faces and meet a couple of new ones.
John - that elise that caught us up on the m6 just before you turned off convoyed with me all the way to preston! lol
Oh and getting faster has its costs, it seems tyres are only lasting 3 days now instead of 4
Nice convoy must have looked great!! Good to meet yourself and sue. Big thanks for the pax. see you at oulton if not before.Good to see familiar faces and meet a couple of new ones.
John - that elise that caught us up on the m6 just before you turned off convoyed with me all the way to preston! lol
Oh and getting faster has its costs, it seems tyres are only lasting 3 days now instead of 4
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