post 2006 brakes vs pre 2006 brakes (+240R)
Discussion
I've been fortunate enough to have driven several cars this week in an effort to make up my mind what to buy...
'02 Elise/Honda (Nitrons/Alloy bells/Pagids/888r's
'55 Exige
'07 Exige S
Oh, & a '79 911 that had £30k spent on it, so effectively a 964RS replica - done very nicely
There were obviously plenty of differences, but for this post I'm just after some opinions on the differing brake feel.
Personally, I didn't get on with the non assisted set up on the early S2 Honda Elise. I'm not doubting the stopping power, just didn't like the amount of effort that had to be used combined with a dead wooden feeling (reminded me a bit of a Formula Ford car I drove at Brands a few years back, although that was better).
Didn't like the Pre06 Exige either, too long in the pedal before any bite. Then the brakes were fine in terms of effort/braking/feedback, just didn't like the long pedal.
The 07 Exige S was my favoured choice, the brakes had a firm pedal with good bite & feedback. in fact they felt like I was expecting the early non assisted brakes to (e.g. you had to use some effort, but nicely weighted pedal/feedback etc.).
Also, moving away from the brakes, I much preferred the S/C Exige as I thought the N/A just felt flat, had to wait too long for 2nd cam e.g. when rolling it on in 2nd gear, & then still felt a bit weak on 2nd cam to me.
So looks like an Exige S/240R or 240 Cup is the short list, so what I want to know from the brakes side of things is how do the brakes in the 240r feel compared to the post 06 'S' & 240 cup? - I guess it's the old pedal box, but they're 4 pots, so is the pedal any firmer?
Also in the post 06 cars, do the brakes 'feel' similar between 'S' & cup?
(BTW, the Honda was the fastest, but just too raw/loud for me on the road + didn't like the brakes. Personally, I felt the Exige S struck the best balance re road/track in that for me I wouldn't want anything any more 'raw' than an S2 Exige. Re 911 - loved it & now want one! - just think I would like an Exige S/Cup for a couple of years 1st...)
'02 Elise/Honda (Nitrons/Alloy bells/Pagids/888r's
'55 Exige
'07 Exige S
Oh, & a '79 911 that had £30k spent on it, so effectively a 964RS replica - done very nicely
There were obviously plenty of differences, but for this post I'm just after some opinions on the differing brake feel.
Personally, I didn't get on with the non assisted set up on the early S2 Honda Elise. I'm not doubting the stopping power, just didn't like the amount of effort that had to be used combined with a dead wooden feeling (reminded me a bit of a Formula Ford car I drove at Brands a few years back, although that was better).
Didn't like the Pre06 Exige either, too long in the pedal before any bite. Then the brakes were fine in terms of effort/braking/feedback, just didn't like the long pedal.
The 07 Exige S was my favoured choice, the brakes had a firm pedal with good bite & feedback. in fact they felt like I was expecting the early non assisted brakes to (e.g. you had to use some effort, but nicely weighted pedal/feedback etc.).
Also, moving away from the brakes, I much preferred the S/C Exige as I thought the N/A just felt flat, had to wait too long for 2nd cam e.g. when rolling it on in 2nd gear, & then still felt a bit weak on 2nd cam to me.
So looks like an Exige S/240R or 240 Cup is the short list, so what I want to know from the brakes side of things is how do the brakes in the 240r feel compared to the post 06 'S' & 240 cup? - I guess it's the old pedal box, but they're 4 pots, so is the pedal any firmer?
Also in the post 06 cars, do the brakes 'feel' similar between 'S' & cup?
(BTW, the Honda was the fastest, but just too raw/loud for me on the road + didn't like the brakes. Personally, I felt the Exige S struck the best balance re road/track in that for me I wouldn't want anything any more 'raw' than an S2 Exige. Re 911 - loved it & now want one! - just think I would like an Exige S/Cup for a couple of years 1st...)
Have a word with speedyellow about his 240R.
The feel on the Honda'd car you're talking about is probably more to do with the pads than anything else. If it's pley's old car (Aqua blue), I believe it'll be running RS14's which are a hard compound that work best when they have some heat in them. Can feel a bit wooden from cold, but that's easily cured.
The feel on the Honda'd car you're talking about is probably more to do with the pads than anything else. If it's pley's old car (Aqua blue), I believe it'll be running RS14's which are a hard compound that work best when they have some heat in them. Can feel a bit wooden from cold, but that's easily cured.
Hi, thanks for the replies - yes I know that fluid/pads adjustment can make a difference etc. -I've had lots of standard & modified cars over the last 20 years! What I'm mainly driving at (excuse the pun 
) is the fundamental difference between the Exige S pre 06 & post 06 pedal box & how that applies or doesn't apply to a standard 240 R & standard 240 cup re AP 4 pots...
) is the fundamental difference between the Exige S pre 06 & post 06 pedal box & how that applies or doesn't apply to a standard 240 R & standard 240 cup re AP 4 pots...
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