In the wet
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burnsburnsburns

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25 posts

230 months

Thursday 11th October 2007
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Howdy,

I've read a lot on this forum about driving much more carefully in the wet with the Elise, can people clarify exactly what I should be watching out for?

Burns

Philygumbo

1,500 posts

280 months

Thursday 11th October 2007
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Heavy right foot!
Don,t try to push hard coming off a roundabout.

Ikemi

8,610 posts

236 months

Thursday 11th October 2007
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Light rear end, wide tyres and rear wheel drive ... They easily aquaplane over standing water and with too much right foot, they'll bite you! Obviously different tyres do help matters - I've heard the hardcore Yoko's are scary in the wet!

kambites

71,681 posts

252 months

Thursday 11th October 2007
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As above really. The Elise is a light car on wide rubber which gives it a natural tendency to aquaplane. If you hit standing water, the wider rear rubber will lose contact first and the car will snap into oversteer, dumping you unceremoniously into a hedge.

RobM77

35,349 posts

265 months

Thursday 11th October 2007
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I should add that I attended a track day in a monsoon last year in the Elise (the rain was deafning - it was that heavy!) and it was absolutely fine if you were careful and smooth. No nasty tricks up its sleeve at all. Much less of a handful on a wet track than either of my Caterhams, and certainly less of a handful than plenty of other cars I've driven on track.

Muz_Wez

1,399 posts

233 months

Thursday 11th October 2007
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Same as above really. Just be careful and feed in the throttle gradually in the wet. I've always run Yoko A048's on my Exige & in the wet you can feel the car wiggle under you, particularly when the tyres are part worn (they only come with 5mm when new).

Best advice is smooth with everything, throttle, steering etc. that way you'll be fine (hopefully!)

tpp_uk

110 posts

236 months

Thursday 11th October 2007
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I run Yokohama A038's on our standard (apart from ITG induction kit) S1 and have found no real problems in the wet, even in the 'monsoon' conditions we have experienced recently - As everyone else has said above, just pay standing water its due respect, watch out for manhole covers on roundabouts(!!) and don't be tempted to boot it out of a corner too soon!

tricky 100

954 posts

273 months

Thursday 11th October 2007
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I would advise you drive any car more carefully in the wet , but not more so the Elise .

burnsburnsburns

Original Poster:

25 posts

230 months

Thursday 11th October 2007
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Wow, thanks for all the advice. So just treat everything smoothly and I should be okay.

You mention standing water, what exactly should I do when I hit standing water?

Burns

L100NYY

36,830 posts

274 months

Thursday 11th October 2007
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burnsburnsburns said:
Wow, thanks for all the advice. So just treat everything smoothly and I should be okay.

You mention standing water, what exactly should I do when I hit standing water?

Burns
As little as possible,

  • Do not brake
  • Keep wheels pointing straight
  • Try and keep a constant throttle

David Gray

77 posts

231 months

Thursday 11th October 2007
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burnsburnsburns said:
Wow, thanks for all the advice. So just treat everything smoothly and I should be okay.

You mention standing water, what exactly should I do when I hit standing water?

Burns
Put your wipers on smile
Believe it or not i know someone who said thst during their driving test.

Chris49

1,121 posts

232 months

Thursday 11th October 2007
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As said, a heavy right foot has nearly cost me dear.

No computer aids to help you so it is a different feel from any other car (except caterhams, etc!!!)

Just nice and smooth and you'll have no problems.

RobM77

35,349 posts

265 months

Thursday 11th October 2007
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Chris49 said:
As said, a heavy right foot has nearly cost me dear.

No computer aids to help you so it is a different feel from any other car (except caterhams, etc!!!)

Just nice and smooth and you'll have no problems.
It's worth mentioning than feel and control go a long way to preventing brown trouser moments! The Elise has feel and control in spade loads, and consequently very few brown trouser moments.

I've had fewer scary moments in the Elise (none actually) than in any other car I've owned due purely to the fact that its the most feelsome car I've owned. Yes, more so than even the Caterham, because in the Caterham you're sat over the rear axle, so can't feel what's going on up front as much. The car that delivered the most scary moments for me was my BMW E46 330 coupe - it had rubbish assisted controls that had a mind of their own and would get you into all sorts of trouble if you tried to drive at anything like a decent pace. I dread to think of the number of BMW driving executives who probably think rear wheel drive is scary and never go near a sports car, but driving the Elise after some big barge with assisted controls I feel a lot safer!

Boggy

4,603 posts

266 months

Thursday 11th October 2007
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Don't do as I did, 3 Week old Elise 111R (1st) Sorry Ben).

Drive up to bend at 50 mph + (Damp) throw the thing in and hope for the bestyikes Result damaged front clam that had to be repaired not going to mention the cost, also highly embarrassed as I was trying to show off in front of my father in law, mother in law, and very angry wife (Who'd paid for the bloody thing)shoot

Do

Get some driver training and learn by your mistake's in a controlled environmentwoohoo

Boggy

Edited by Boggy on Thursday 11th October 17:29

redIX

33 posts

264 months

Thursday 11th October 2007
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Or do what I did - crash it on the way home from the garage...

Had to wait 3 months for another one, which I've now had for about 3 years

redIX

33 posts

264 months

Thursday 11th October 2007
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Ooops, hit "submit" a bit quick there.

My only advice is take care on the way home, especially if it's wet. Give yourself time to get used to the car.

RobM77

35,349 posts

265 months

Thursday 11th October 2007
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Without wishing to sound arrogant at all, I should add that I've been racing since I was 22 and am fairly used to being on and over the limit. I'm only mentioning that as I suppose it has to be taken into consideration when I say that my Elise is really safe and secure in the wet - it feels like that to me but everyone is different. I can honestly say though that the combination of low power and really high grip feels pretty secure to me. Just thought I should add that in case someone crashes and blames me for saying the Elise is fine in the wet!

bananamana

168 posts

234 months

Thursday 11th October 2007
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Im a newbie, driving in the wet has been fine so far. Taking it smoothly.

I hav'nt really experienced any water films yet, so I guess I'll have to watch out for them. Overall it feels more secure than my Corolla, hehe smile

lincoln lad

92 posts

229 months

Thursday 11th October 2007
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Smooth, straight as possible, little on no brakes, easy on the gas..

As was said earlier, even on a track day (I was at donnington in torrential rain this year) it is still fun, albeit a "different" sort of fun. Certainly learnt more on a track in those 2 hours than at any other time (excluding driver training)

Paul RN

1,168 posts

245 months

Thursday 11th October 2007
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Careful in a straight line in the wet too http://www.aouv49.dsl.pipex.com/Aquaplane.wmv Lifting off the power can have its problems even on a straight it seems.