buying a 111R

[madmatt1985]

what kind of money should i exspect to pay for a 111R im looking for fun not luxuries.

[LivinLaVidaLotus]

All depends on how old/how many miles/condition really. You can pay ~£25k for a 2006, more for a 2007. Or less than £20k for a 2004 (Possibly a 2005). As long as it has been serviced properly and at correct intervals, don't worry too much about the miles, buy on condition rather than what's on the clock.

[madmatt1985]

that like exige price range mmmmmmmm

[Hollywood Wheels]

Wasn't there a private ad on PH a while back for £16K? Must have been high mileage, but they are out there. If you're after fun not luxury look at high-end S1's!!!!!!

[LivinLaVidaLotus]

Sorry, I should have said, that's what you'd expect to pay at a dealer, privately you'll get much better deals.

[madmatt1985]

Hollywood Wheels said:

Wasn't there a private ad on PH a while back for £16K? Must have been high mileage, but they are out there. If you're after fun not luxury look at high-end S1's!!!!!!

but the s1 run on the rover engine dont they. and well all know what happend to rover LOL

[kevin ritson]

madmatt1985 said:

Hollywood Wheels said:

Wasn't there a private ad on PH a while back for £16K? Must have been high mileage, but they are out there. If you're after fun not luxury look at high-end S1's!!!!!!

but the s1 run on the rover engine dont they. and well all know what happend to rover LOL

Best you do a bit more research then. Nothing I hate to see more than another 'yota car being blown through ignorance

[Skyman]

madmatt1985 said:

Hollywood Wheels said:

Wasn't there a private ad on PH a while back for £16K? Must have been high mileage, but they are out there. If you're after fun not luxury look at high-end S1's!!!!!!

but the s1 run on the rover engine dont they. and well all know what happend to rover LOL

I have had a 111R, an Exige S and now an S1 111S. I shall not be changing again. Nuff said

[fatboy111]

Skyman said:

madmatt1985 said:

Hollywood Wheels said:

Wasn't there a private ad on PH a while back for £16K? Must have been high mileage, but they are out there. If you're after fun not luxury look at high-end S1's!!!!!!

but the s1 run on the rover engine dont they. and well all know what happend to rover LOL

I have had a 111R, an Exige S and now an S1 111S. I shall not be changing again. Nuff said

Well said that man!

[Skyman]

I thank you!

[Hollywood Wheels]

madmatt1985 said:

but the s1 run on the rover engine dont they. and well all know what happend to rover LOL

Mate you really need to stop jumping on that bandwagon, by doing so you are massively limiting your choices. I've said it before and I'll say it again, if I was offered a brand new 111R in exchange for my old rattler, I would say no. May sound like insanity to some, but it's horses for courses in the Lotus world....

It won't be your only car, it's a track and weekend toy. That means you should automatically be putting high-end S1's and S2 111s near the top of your list....

[madmatt1985]

seems that is have learnt something. i really didnt think the rover engine was any good. are the "rover engines" reliable. i dont do braking down. lol

[madmatt1985]

also. think i mite upset a few on this. i like the look of the S2 (runs and hinds behind sofa)

[philz]

madmatt1985 said:

seems that is have learnt something. i really didnt think the rover engine was any good. are the "rover engines" reliable. i dont do braking down. lol

The Rover engine does have the head gasket failure stigma but it's not a huge issue to be honest. It'll cost about £500 to repair (or even less if you get the AA warranty which covers most of the cost) so just buy the car that's best for you and enjoy it.

I've got a 111R myself cos I love the way it drives, 8600rpm is just so addictive but I also have an MGF and an MG ZR, both of which have the Rover 1.8 engine so I'm not anti-K series by any means.

[Mattt]

- Hi Matt.

Have a word with Ben ( http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/profile.asp?h=0... ) at Castle Lotus - http://www.castlesportscars.co.uk/ - he will sort you out

He's normally down at the Essex PH meets if you wanted to have a chat with him - http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

Edited by Mattt on Sunday 4th November 17:34

[madmatt1985]

Mattt said:

- Hi Matt.

Have a word with Ben ( http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/profile.asp?h=0... ) at Castle Lotus - http://www.castlesportscars.co.uk/ - he will sort you out

He's normally down at the Essex PH meets if you wanted to have a chat with him - http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

Edited by Mattt on Sunday 4th November 17:34

thanks matt, i will proble pm him later in the week. iv got to see how wolf do with my current car first before can comit myself to buying a elise. (just a matter of time).

[kevin ritson]

There are just as many scare stories surrounding the Toyota engines. A K-series is a reliable lump and repairs cost peanuts unless you decide to tune it. Same as any other engine really.

It also costs nothing to buy road tax for and sips petrol. This is in addition to being a free-revving unit that's very driveable. Provided you don't want more than 170bhp it's ideal.

[DaveR]

Topical question for me.

Coming from a position of zero knowledge, what are the 'scare stories' with the Toyota engines then?

I currently have a Cerbera as a fun car but am not getting out in it often enough. I have a 40 mile commute to the office on a mix of A-road/m-way/DC with jams in the hotspots which aren't especially enjoyable in the Cerb. A 111R seemed (on paper) like a good idea as something I could use a lot more often, incliding the commute.

Why should/shouldn't I consider one?

[Jonblue]

I don't think there are any scare stories. They are solid.

[S Works]

Jonblue said:

I don't think there are any scare stories. They are solid.

Er, not quite. Several have blown.