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Right...im selling my 430bhp Evo 8 as maintainence costs and fuel costs are getting silly now. Its due to the milleage i do.
Iv always loved lotus elise and exige and have decided to get one.
I wanted an Exige S, but its a slow process selling my car and im quite impatient. A local performance dealer should give me a fair price on my car, and they have an Exige there, but its not the S. Its an 06 with 5000 miles on it, has touring pack etc.
Im tempted to just get the n/a exige...But am i missing much with the performance loss? I know its only around 25bhp and 20 ft-lbs..But will that make a big difference in an exige? Also wondering what the basic tuning options are like..for example, will a new Manifold, exhaust, air intake and a map tweak make a big difference on an N/A exige?
Any Help is appreciated.
Kind Regards
Jay
Iv always loved lotus elise and exige and have decided to get one.
I wanted an Exige S, but its a slow process selling my car and im quite impatient. A local performance dealer should give me a fair price on my car, and they have an Exige there, but its not the S. Its an 06 with 5000 miles on it, has touring pack etc.
Im tempted to just get the n/a exige...But am i missing much with the performance loss? I know its only around 25bhp and 20 ft-lbs..But will that make a big difference in an exige? Also wondering what the basic tuning options are like..for example, will a new Manifold, exhaust, air intake and a map tweak make a big difference on an N/A exige?
Any Help is appreciated.
Kind Regards
Jay
Edited by EvoJay on Thursday 22 November 16:13
You could buy an N/A Exige and add an after market S/C kit such as this one.
http://www.hangar111.com/turbodrive.htm
http://www.hangar111.com/turbodrive.htm
I want to avoid the potch of that. I want the car to be as reliable and hassle free as possible.
Iv built a new engine in my evo...2.3 stroker and list goes on. When i buy a lotus, i want to do basic mods only...exhausts, filters and remaps etc.
So given the basic options...is there much in it? Just curious how an N/A exige would compete with an S if it had a new manifold, exhaust, filter and map tweak.
Cheers
Jay
Iv built a new engine in my evo...2.3 stroker and list goes on. When i buy a lotus, i want to do basic mods only...exhausts, filters and remaps etc.
So given the basic options...is there much in it? Just curious how an N/A exige would compete with an S if it had a new manifold, exhaust, filter and map tweak.
Cheers
Jay
The simple answer is that the Exige N/A and Exige S are completely 100% different cars. Same chassis and bits, but the engine totally transforms the nature and style of the car and it's driveability.
I looked at both, and once I'd tried the S I just didn't even consider a NA one. Get to a Lotus dealer and try both back to back (they're happy to do this)...it really is surpising how different they are. It's not just the extra 30bhp, it's where in the rev range it is.
I looked at both, and once I'd tried the S I just didn't even consider a NA one. Get to a Lotus dealer and try both back to back (they're happy to do this)...it really is surpising how different they are. It's not just the extra 30bhp, it's where in the rev range it is.
You barely notice the cam change in an S - where as in the N/A I actually found it frustrating (having come from a S2 111S rover engined car).
Without doubt get yourself a drive of an S and you'll see what I mean - the difference is other-wordly. As I mentioned, much more so than 30bhp would have you believe.
Without doubt get yourself a drive of an S and you'll see what I mean - the difference is other-wordly. As I mentioned, much more so than 30bhp would have you believe.
EvoJay said:
Right...im selling my 430bhp Evo 8 as maintainence costs and fuel costs are getting silly now. Its due to the milleage i do.
Iv always loved lotus elise and exige and have decided to get one.
I wanted an Exige S, but its a slow process selling my car and im quite impatient. A local performance dealer should give me a fair price on my car, and they have an Exige there, but its not the S. Its an 06 with 5000 miles on it, has touring pack etc.
Im tempted to just get the n/a exige...But am i missing much with the performance loss? I know its only around 25bhp and 20 ft-lbs..But will that make a big difference in an exige? Also wondering what the basic tuning options are like..for example, will a new Manifold, exhaust, air intake and a map tweak make a big difference on an N/A exige?
Any Help is appreciated.
Kind Regards
Jay
if your comming from 430Bhp Evo, then an Exige is just not goiung to do anything for you power wise, NA will be pedestian, and even the latest 240Bhp S will not be exactly fast...Iv always loved lotus elise and exige and have decided to get one.
I wanted an Exige S, but its a slow process selling my car and im quite impatient. A local performance dealer should give me a fair price on my car, and they have an Exige there, but its not the S. Its an 06 with 5000 miles on it, has touring pack etc.
Im tempted to just get the n/a exige...But am i missing much with the performance loss? I know its only around 25bhp and 20 ft-lbs..But will that make a big difference in an exige? Also wondering what the basic tuning options are like..for example, will a new Manifold, exhaust, air intake and a map tweak make a big difference on an N/A exige?
Any Help is appreciated.
Kind Regards
Jay
I strongly suggest you go drive a few...
Scuffers said:
EvoJay said:
Right...im selling my 430bhp Evo 8 as maintainence costs and fuel costs are getting silly now. Its due to the milleage i do.
Iv always loved lotus elise and exige and have decided to get one.
I wanted an Exige S, but its a slow process selling my car and im quite impatient. A local performance dealer should give me a fair price on my car, and they have an Exige there, but its not the S. Its an 06 with 5000 miles on it, has touring pack etc.
Im tempted to just get the n/a exige...But am i missing much with the performance loss? I know its only around 25bhp and 20 ft-lbs..But will that make a big difference in an exige? Also wondering what the basic tuning options are like..for example, will a new Manifold, exhaust, air intake and a map tweak make a big difference on an N/A exige?
Any Help is appreciated.
Kind Regards
Jay
if your comming from 430Bhp Evo, then an Exige is just not goiung to do anything for you power wise, NA will be pedestian, and even the latest 240Bhp S will not be exactly fast...Iv always loved lotus elise and exige and have decided to get one.
I wanted an Exige S, but its a slow process selling my car and im quite impatient. A local performance dealer should give me a fair price on my car, and they have an Exige there, but its not the S. Its an 06 with 5000 miles on it, has touring pack etc.
Im tempted to just get the n/a exige...But am i missing much with the performance loss? I know its only around 25bhp and 20 ft-lbs..But will that make a big difference in an exige? Also wondering what the basic tuning options are like..for example, will a new Manifold, exhaust, air intake and a map tweak make a big difference on an N/A exige?
Any Help is appreciated.
Kind Regards
Jay
I strongly suggest you go drive a few...
Boggy
I can accept it wont have the strait line grunt. Exige makes you feel special when you drive it...it look incredible, handles superbly and actually has decent fuel economy.
But although i can handle it not being as quick as the evo but dont want total boredom. Im just impatient and fed up of waiting to sell my car, hasnt even been up for sale a fourtnight yet. Also, the last 4 cars iv owned have been yellow, and the exige thats local to me is yellow. Dont think iv ever seen an Exige S in yellow though.
Jay
But although i can handle it not being as quick as the evo but dont want total boredom. Im just impatient and fed up of waiting to sell my car, hasnt even been up for sale a fourtnight yet. Also, the last 4 cars iv owned have been yellow, and the exige thats local to me is yellow. Dont think iv ever seen an Exige S in yellow though.
Jay
The outright speed probably won't be too dissimilar in terms of pace, but you won't feel that shove in the back. I used to own a modified Escort Cosworth and that gave a real shove whenever you put your foot down. It was great, but completely different delivery of speed to the Exige S.
As others have said, just drive one
As others have said, just drive one
(in fact there's one at Lotus Lipscomb right now).
Running costs arent to much an issue...Spending near £200 a week on fuel currently. I just dont want the potch of conversions...engine...or supercharger.
Doesnt matter what anyone says, theres always lots of little faults that need sorting that i havent got the patience for.
I do on average 25,000 miles a year.
Doesnt matter what anyone says, theres always lots of little faults that need sorting that i havent got the patience for.
I do on average 25,000 miles a year.
EvoJay said:
Running costs arent to much an issue...Spending near £200 a week on fuel currently. I just dont want the potch of conversions...engine...or supercharger.
Doesnt matter what anyone says, theres always lots of little faults that need sorting that i havent got the patience for.
I do on average 25,000 miles a year.
that's a very sweeping statment on several levels...Doesnt matter what anyone says, theres always lots of little faults that need sorting that i havent got the patience for.
I do on average 25,000 miles a year.
this is a lotus you are talking about, the factory std cars are not exactly top of the JD powers list to start with.
to take on the point about Honda's, they have proven to be the fastest, most cost effective, reliable Lotus's out there, period.
Im still not interested...Im really not interested in messing about with new engine. Lotus spent millions developing the car. Some company spent a few k developing a conversion kit..just doesnt have the same background.
For me...the engine from the factory is the only way to go. Having had alot of different cars with engine conversions...or alot of power..Im looking forward to keeping it simple.
My original question relates back to i want an S..But have been offered an N/A exige by a local garage..and was wondering how the N/A would compare with basic Mods.
For me...the engine from the factory is the only way to go. Having had alot of different cars with engine conversions...or alot of power..Im looking forward to keeping it simple.
My original question relates back to i want an S..But have been offered an N/A exige by a local garage..and was wondering how the N/A would compare with basic Mods.
Edited by EvoJay on Thursday 22 November 19:04
I have an n/a car and TBH I don't think you'll get what you are looking for in terms of power without an S or an aftermarket kit.
I've got what must be the most expensive induction kit going (carbon ITG) combined with a Lotus and more recently Larini exhaust and have run both with and without CATs. Stock manifold and not down the ECU flash (this just changes the cam point). But, I'd say if it is quicker than a stock car, it's maybe by 1% if that.
It's a great base for tweaking and "playing" but that's about it. You're not going to get much more from an n/a Exige without forced induction.
I've got what must be the most expensive induction kit going (carbon ITG) combined with a Lotus and more recently Larini exhaust and have run both with and without CATs. Stock manifold and not down the ECU flash (this just changes the cam point). But, I'd say if it is quicker than a stock car, it's maybe by 1% if that.
It's a great base for tweaking and "playing" but that's about it. You're not going to get much more from an n/a Exige without forced induction.
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