Elise R/111R Supercharger Upgrade Campaign
Discussion
Gooby said:
I have been seriously trying to get the new SC on my car as part of the rebuild. Talking to lotus - they will supply a exige (intercooled) SC kit but no elise kit.
I was told the only way is to have a very "creative" parts guy at a dealership.
SO YES I WANT A SUPERCHARGER KIT
Gooby - the new elise s/c has only just been released and I would imagine the factory parts etc will be very scarce at this stage. If anyone wants to wait long enough I'm sure the elise s/c factory bits will become more readily obtainable eventually.I was told the only way is to have a very "creative" parts guy at a dealership.
SO YES I WANT A SUPERCHARGER KIT
If you want a s/c on your elise right now - do yourself a favour and try the sinclaire's katana kit ... it really is very very impressive
- tidy finish and felt more grunty than my standard exige s. Kevin and I (amongst others) drove it for several laps at NW 
and it never missed a beat all day and idled perfectly despite being driven enthusiastically by a number of people which bodes well for the robustness of the conversion 
Going back to the original OP, I see nothing wrong with the approach although I suspect the factory would prefer that you buy a new s/c car ... at least at this stage of the new model's launch ... ...
Bada Bing! said:
I want it fitted for 4k or under with a 12 month/9,000 mile warranty. Anyone else with me? 
Yeah...good luck with that 
Have a word with Sinclaires, they'll get you nearer 240 BHP and it feels like a brand new factory car - bearing in mind their demo car is Mini's old Exige that's pretty good going
Edited by kevin ritson on Tuesday 4th December 22:58
kevin ritson said:
Bada Bing! said:
I want it fitted for 4k or under with a 12 month/9,000 mile warranty. Anyone else with me?
Yeah...good luck with that Have a word with Sinclaires, they'll get you nearer 240 BHP and it feels like a brand new factory car - bearing in mind their demo car is Mini's old Exige that's pretty good going
Edited by kevin ritson on Tuesday 4th December 22:58
kevin ritson said:
Bada Bing! said:
I want it fitted for 4k or under with a 12 month/9,000 mile warranty. Anyone else with me?
Yeah...good luck with that Have a word with Sinclaires, they'll get you nearer 240 BHP and it feels like a brand new factory car - bearing in mind their demo car is Mini's old Exige that's pretty good going
Edited by kevin ritson on Tuesday 4th December 22:58
I'm in discussions with them at the moment.
What about us Exige S owners that want 240 hp with warranty. Hell no 255 hp preferably?
I can't see Lotus offering either with warranty. The risks to them are too great, and in the end it does hit the sales of new cars. Why bother buying a new one when you can pick up a bargain neearly new car and whack a S/C kit on it. There would even be more profit for the dealer too with this scenario.
After market seems the only way to go.
I can't see Lotus offering either with warranty. The risks to them are too great, and in the end it does hit the sales of new cars. Why bother buying a new one when you can pick up a bargain neearly new car and whack a S/C kit on it. There would even be more profit for the dealer too with this scenario.
After market seems the only way to go.
Bada Bing! said:
Who is the best contact at Lotus for us to post lots of mail on the subject to. Email is no good, neither are online petitions, IMO. Must be bags full of mail, and not written in txt spk.
I want it fitted for 4k or under with a 12 month/9,000 mile warranty. Anyone else with me?
Seriously, go get a aftermarket one. Better built, more power, no more compromise and at ~£7k worth every penny.I want it fitted for 4k or under with a 12 month/9,000 mile warranty. Anyone else with me?
I just can't get over the fact that so many are wanting to retro-fit a kit that is held back by marketing and doesn't really offer that much more. At least the after-market kits aren't held back by what some marketing department thinks is best for the cooporation and instead gets the best out of what's possible (what in fact Lotus should be doing).
7k isn't worth it for me. I could put a 4k deposit down on an Elise SC with my car as trade in and have a car that costs me the same in repayments as my 111R.
A 4k kit (either katana or a Lotus badged one) means I get my own car (which has the expensive paint and aircon already), and I only need to wait the couple of day sit takes to fit. At 7k, I'd be substantially cheaper buying a brand new Elise SC with lightweight wheels, fancy paint, aircon and hardtop.
A 4k kit (either katana or a Lotus badged one) means I get my own car (which has the expensive paint and aircon already), and I only need to wait the couple of day sit takes to fit. At 7k, I'd be substantially cheaper buying a brand new Elise SC with lightweight wheels, fancy paint, aircon and hardtop.
Edited by Bada Bing! on Wednesday 5th December 12:01
Bada Bing! said:
7k isn't worth it for me. I could put a 4k deposit down on an Elise SC with my car as trade in and have a car that costs me the same in repayments as my 111R.
A 4k kit (either katana or a Lotus badged one) means I get my own car (which has the expensive paint and aircon already), and I only need to wait the couple of day sit takes to fit. At 7k, I'd be substantially cheaper buying a brand new Elise SC with lightweight wheels, fancy paint, aircon and hardtop.
4k kit for a katana S/C is another story and would yield at least a larger supercharger than what Lotus would be offering if they'd retro fit the Elise-S kit. In both cases though, you don't get a charge-cooler. If the Katana is road legal in the UK is another thing though - it isn't in California AFAIK as per the secor111 website.A 4k kit (either katana or a Lotus badged one) means I get my own car (which has the expensive paint and aircon already), and I only need to wait the couple of day sit takes to fit. At 7k, I'd be substantially cheaper buying a brand new Elise SC with lightweight wheels, fancy paint, aircon and hardtop.
And I doubt at a mear 3k more you'd suddenly get away with a brand-new Elise-S + lightweight wheels, fancy paint, aircon AND a hardtop - did you check the pricelist recently?! On the other hand, even if you would - for that 3k more (over a hypothetical non-existant Lotus retro-fit for 4k), you get a lot more power, torque, better quality product and car in the end.
4k for 30bhp more or 80bhp for 7k...
Edited by Phil-CH on Wednesday 5th December 12:36
Bada Bing! said:
7k isn't worth it for me. I could put a 4k deposit down on an Elise SC with my car as trade in and have a car that costs me the same in repayments as my 111R.
A 4k kit (either katana or a Lotus badged one) means I get my own car (which has the expensive paint and aircon already), and I only need to wait the couple of day sit takes to fit. At 7k, I'd be substantially cheaper buying a brand new Elise SC with lightweight wheels, fancy paint, aircon and hardtop.
Exactly my point. This is why Lotus are unlikely to do an after market kit. And you will only have 220 hp which is pretty poor value if it did cost £4k. The Komo-tec Turbodrive, (S/C), usually makes 255 bhp for £7k, which is much better value.A 4k kit (either katana or a Lotus badged one) means I get my own car (which has the expensive paint and aircon already), and I only need to wait the couple of day sit takes to fit. At 7k, I'd be substantially cheaper buying a brand new Elise SC with lightweight wheels, fancy paint, aircon and hardtop.
Edited by Bada Bing! on Wednesday 5th December 12:01
Neil E.S. Turner
Product Quality &
Customer Services Manager
Tel: +44 (0)1953 608844
Fax: +44 (0)1953 608514
NESTurner@lotuscars.co.uk
Product Quality &
Customer Services Manager
Tel: +44 (0)1953 608844
Fax: +44 (0)1953 608514
NESTurner@lotuscars.co.uk
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