Car wont start but a clicking noise
Car wont start but a clicking noise
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hueandcry71

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1,389 posts

233 months

Monday 10th December 2007
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Any ideas??

Spent the last half an hour trying to get the AA out who keep telling me im not covered depsite the car coming with full comprehensive cover.

That will teach me not to drive it for a week.

Skyman

1,660 posts

255 months

Monday 10th December 2007
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Flat battery? Clicking noise probably the starter motor.

hueandcry71

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1,389 posts

233 months

Monday 10th December 2007
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Skyman said:
Flat battery? Clicking noise probably the starter motor.
Probably but flat aftter a week without using it?? The stereo and lights all work ok ??

kambites

71,668 posts

252 months

Monday 10th December 2007
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The lights and stereo draw a lot less power than the starter. I suspect your battery has had it if it was fully charged a week ago... either that or the alarm got itself into a strange state where it was drawing too much power.

ETA: although on a car that new, it does seem a bit odd.

Edited by kambites on Monday 10th December 08:52

hueandcry71

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1,389 posts

233 months

Monday 10th December 2007
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kambites said:
The lights and stereo draw a lot less power than the starter. I suspect your battery has had it if it was fully charged a week ago... either that or the alarm got itself into a strange state where it was drawing too much power.

ETA: although on a car that new, it does seem a bit odd.

Edited by kambites on Monday 10th December 08:52
The good thing is that the car is so bloody light i have just pushed it out of my garage and up the sloping drive all by myself without even having my shredded wheat.

Now waiting for the dealer to open so i can bollock them for not registering it with the AA.

Skyman

1,660 posts

255 months

Monday 10th December 2007
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The battery can be drained fairly quickly by the alarm, I have found. But a week does seem rather short. Get yourself a battery charger/conditioner, then no more worries.

hueandcry71

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1,389 posts

233 months

Monday 10th December 2007
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Skyman said:
The battery can be drained fairly quickly by the alarm, I have found. But a week does seem rather short. Get yourself a battery charger/conditioner, then no more worries.
It was a flat battery which was caused by something draining it.

The AA man told me that something is draining it but doesnt know what and that it will go flat again very quickly. He did suggest it may be the stereo and that i should remove the security panel if im planning not to drive it for a while.

The car is now on an AA flat bed truck on its way to my nearest Lotus dealer.

Bloody typical, first nice day for ages and i cant even drive it.

HarryW

16,076 posts

300 months

Monday 10th December 2007
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Had a similar thing with the misses TF (K series VVC) which I assume is the same/similar.
I had visions of new starter motor etc, turns out they are quite well known (by the RAC who came out) for the terminal on main power cable to the starter coming loose, tightened it up, jobs a good un thumbup.
Hope its as simple as that.

Sam_68

9,939 posts

276 months

Monday 10th December 2007
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^^^^ What Harry says.

If all you're getting is a 'chattering' noise and the engine isn't turning over, then it's the solenoid on your starter motor trying to work with a poor connection somewhere. Make sure your main connections between starter motor and battery (both live and earth) are clean and tight.

Obviously, make sure your battery is fully charged, too.

hueandcry71

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1,389 posts

233 months

Monday 10th December 2007
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Sam_68 said:
^^^^ What Harry says.

If all you're getting is a 'chattering' noise and the engine isn't turning over, then it's the solenoid on your starter motor trying to work with a poor connection somewhere. Make sure your main connections between starter motor and battery (both live and earth) are clean and tight.

Obviously, make sure your battery is fully charged, too.
The car is only 2 months old so it has gone back to a dealer. Thanks for the advice.

Cuzza

2,042 posts

284 months

Monday 10th December 2007
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hueandcry71 said:
It was a flat battery which was caused by something draining it.

The AA man told me that something is draining it but doesnt know what and that it will go flat again very quickly. He did suggest it may be the stereo and that i should remove the security panel if im planning not to drive it for a while.

The car is now on an AA flat bed truck on its way to my nearest Lotus dealer.

Bloody typical, first nice day for ages and i cant even drive it.
Why didn't he just jump it so you could drive round there? Sounds like much less hassle and the alternator should get things back up to an acceptable level pretty quick.

hueandcry71

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1,389 posts

233 months

Monday 10th December 2007
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Cuzza said:
hueandcry71 said:
It was a flat battery which was caused by something draining it.

The AA man told me that something is draining it but doesnt know what and that it will go flat again very quickly. He did suggest it may be the stereo and that i should remove the security panel if im planning not to drive it for a while.

The car is now on an AA flat bed truck on its way to my nearest Lotus dealer.

Bloody typical, first nice day for ages and i cant even drive it.
Why didn't he just jump it so you could drive round there? Sounds like much less hassle and the alternator should get things back up to an acceptable level pretty quick.
He did jump it to get it going but he left his meter on measuring the battery and said something was draining it and it would go flat again. Not entirely convinced he knew what he was talking about although flat after only a week without use seems strange.
Kind of regretting letting it go the dealers as i am sure a good drive would have sorted it. Not sure when i will get it back either as there is no-one in the Service Department today cos they are all sick.

badger828

15 posts

242 months

Tuesday 11th December 2007
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Hi, did the same to me, racked my brains for hours, what is that clicking noise? And then it dawned on me, The God Damn Immobiliser was still on, I was half way to stripping the electrics.

jondude

2,441 posts

248 months

Tuesday 11th December 2007
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The problem is many sporadically used cars have batteries in a permanent state of near discharge, and it is being kicked from low charge to high charge ( when the alternator kicks in and charges quickly, or you run a boost charger ) which kills a battery.

This time of year then yes, alarm on and a week can be enough - not least because you have a weak battery.

The complete package for you is to fit a new one, clean all the terminals and leads while doing so, go for a long spin, connect to an Optimate or Accumate.

100% sorted. You can leave the car connected to the conditioners above for as lonmg as you like.

hueandcry71

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1,389 posts

233 months

Tuesday 11th December 2007
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jondude said:
The problem is many sporadically used cars have batteries in a permanent state of near discharge, and it is being kicked from low charge to high charge ( when the alternator kicks in and charges quickly, or you run a boost charger ) which kills a battery.

This time of year then yes, alarm on and a week can be enough - not least because you have a weak battery.

The complete package for you is to fit a new one, clean all the terminals and leads while doing so, go for a long spin, connect to an Optimate or Accumate.

100% sorted. You can leave the car connected to the conditioners above for as lonmg as you like.
The thing that really annoys me is that the battery isnt covered by the warranty (remember the car is 2 months old and done only 300 miles)so if i want to replace the battery then its at my cost. Any new battery will come with 12 months warranty (i think)..........just doesnt make sense.

Anyway, im not buying a new battery as im going to see how the current one performs but i have promised not to leave the car standing for over a week ever again, its a confidence thing at the moment cos i dont want to drive it in the wet but if i dont drive it then i wont get confident. Chicken and egg scenario.

Had a cracking drive back from the dealers in it today and realised what i have missed by not driving it.

Edited by hueandcry71 on Tuesday 11th December 16:43

LivinLaVidaLotus

1,626 posts

232 months

Tuesday 11th December 2007
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Get out in the wet, honestly it isn't scary mate - I was worried as well, but as long as you're sensible (like you should be in any car) it's pretty well planted, I was on the M1 the other week and it was bucketing it down and rivers of water in places and it felt okay - Okay, not as planted as a heavier car, but not scary either. I was out in mine at 6:30am this morning - took me 5 mins to fold my bloody cover as it was stiff as a board from the frost.

noodleman

827 posts

244 months

Tuesday 11th December 2007
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I agree. The Elise's reputation in the wet isn't really deserved IMO.

If you don't drive like a tit, you'll be fine.

TonyHetherington

32,091 posts

281 months

Tuesday 11th December 2007
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A week is a very short amount of time; I regularly left mine for weeks (3 perhaps) on end and it was fine. I would then plug a battery conditioner into it after that though.

My Exige is exactly the same; weeks of not using and it's fine.

So charge the battery up and get a conditioner anyway but, as Mr AA says, something is draining it and it shouldn't be; a week is way too short yes

hueandcry71

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1,389 posts

233 months

Wednesday 12th December 2007
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TonyHetherington said:
A week is a very short amount of time; I regularly left mine for weeks (3 perhaps) on end and it was fine. I would then plug a battery conditioner into it after that though.

My Exige is exactly the same; weeks of not using and it's fine.

So charge the battery up and get a conditioner anyway but, as Mr AA says, something is draining it and it shouldn't be; a week is way too short yes
Im not sure if the AA man was right or not, the dealer checked it out thoroughly and said it was fine. I will play it by ear and see what happens. Thanks for the advice.

TonyHetherington

32,091 posts

281 months

Wednesday 12th December 2007
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That's strange? As I say, a week seems a really short amount of time for it to be so flat which is why I thought it was being drained by something.

Keep on top of it, and get yourself a battery conditioner anyway; they're great biggrin