Race Harness - Recomendation for everyday use

[david@mediacopy]

I thinking of fitting a 4 point harness to my S2 and wondered if you guys have any recommendations for a set up thats reasonably convientent for everyday use?

Ta.

[LD1Racing]

I fitted a 4-point to the driver seat in my Exige, have found no problems with it on the road. Didn't bother with the passenger seat as the other half would just moan every time she had to put it on. Sometimes have to line up perpendicular to junctions to see properly (I've heard that multivex mirrors help here, but haven't tried them personally). Also don't forget to tighten the belts when fastening them otherwise there is no point wearing them.

Another point to remember is that retaining the 3-point belt when fitting a harness is not recommended, unless you use separate mounting points.

[tricky 100]

Dont bother for everyday use , you cant see out of junctions and you'll look like a poser . Keep the normal belts in for everyday use .

[Esprit]

I have the Schroth 4-pointers in my Exige and now I feel naked going back to the 3-point in my daily driver. The 4-pointers would be a hassle if I used it every day, but I don't an the extra time/hassle of the 4-point is made up for by the huge increase ni restraint Adds to the sense of occasion too... I don't just hop in and drive the Exige, I get psyched up for it

[bher]

tricky 100 said:

Dont bother for everyday use , you cant see out of junctions and you'll look like a poser . Keep the normal belts in for everyday use .

Fully agree. Had 4 p harness on mine and always use the regular 3p for road use.
If not it seems to me dangerous, if properly fitted with the 4 p. you can't even change heater control, radio (if you ever use it), close the door when fully open or bend to see quiclky if someone is coming perpendicularly (which usually never happen on track )

To me 4 p on the road makes absolutely NO SENSE

Regarding the harness for passager, I had a argument with a wall at 6200 rpm in third gear (75? mph) and was glad that we both, passager and I had the 4 points harness. I would feel bad if I was unhurt (which was the case) but the passager suffers something just to avoid the few quid for his/her harness

[nsm3]

David, well done, I was going to post that question this morning as I pick up my Exige next week.

Going from the responses it looks like the harness will be a track day/Nurburgring requirement only?

[Kev946]

I've just bought the Schroth 4 points for both driver and passenger for my Exige and I plan to take the standards out. The demostrator had them and it seems appropriate for a car with Sports Seats. Also feels safer somehow.

[LD1Racing]

bher said:

if properly fitted with the 4 p. you can't even change heater control, radio (if you ever use it), close the door when fully open

Do you have unusually short arms?

[bogie]

4 points on the road make a lot of sense in a car without airbags etc - the insurance industry reckon that 80% of injuries sustained from hitting parts of the car in accidents wouldnt happen if 4 points were mandatory .....but of course its enough hassle getting everyone to wear a 3 point. They are much safer if you roll too.

if you have blindspot mirrors then you soon get used to using them - make sure to get some that have quick release adjusters and are MOT legal i.e. they have a large red push button to release. The Schroth ones that Lotus use are ideal

[Kev946]

bogie said:

4 points on the road make a lot of sense in a car without airbags etc - the insurance industry reckon that 80% of injuries sustained from hitting parts of the car in accidents wouldnt happen if 4 points were mandatory .....but of course its enough hassle getting everyone to wear a 3 point. They are much safer if you roll too.

if you have blindspot mirrors then you soon get used to using them - make sure to get some that have quick release adjusters and are MOT legal i.e. they have a large red push button to release. The Schroth ones that Lotus use are ideal

The Schroth come in 2 styles, twist and push button. The push are Euro marked, although MOT stations are unlikely to know the regs and could fail either.

http://english.schroth.com/tuning/

[TIPPER]

I fitted Luke harnesses to my car for track days and then didn't bother fitting the inertias back as the car is not a daily driver. Like the Scroth and Willans harnesses the Lukes have a quick release buckle that enables you to slacken them off very quickly for junctions etc. Re-tightening them is just a quick tug.To be honest having got used to them I prefer the feeling of security they give me in preferance to inertias. The car has just gone through its MOT without a murmer from the garage although it might help that they prep rally cars.

[david@mediacopy]

Cheers for all the feedback guys. I've been thinking about it for a while after a nasty crash locally where an Elise was involved in a head on with a taxi who was overtaking on a blind crest.

What prompted the post was a conversation I had on Friday with a Fireman who related the common injuries they find in Road Traffic Accidents. It seems that there are a lot of smashed knees and smashed upper legs where they impact on the dash.


Are these the ones:

http://english.schroth.com/tuning/produktdetail.ph...

Edited by david@mediacopy on Sunday 16th December 17:17

[Kev946]

david@mediacopy" Target="_blank">class="forumQuoter">david@mediacopy said:

Cheers for all the feedback guys. I've been thinking about it for a while after a nasty crash locally where an Elise was involved in a head on with a taxi who was overtaking on a blind crest.

What prompted the post was a conversation I had on Friday with a Fireman who related the common injuries they find in Road Traffic Accidents. It seems that there are a lot of smashed knees and smashed upper legs where they impact on the dash.


Are these the ones:

http://english.schroth.com/tuning/produktdetail.ph...

Edited by david@mediacopy on Sunday 16th December 17:17

Yes but the need the lotus fittings to suit the seat. Standard one won't fit.

Speak to Malcolm at MSAR. He orders them direct from Schroth for the Lotus seats.

http://www.msar-safety.com/index.php?main_page=ind...

[TIPPER]

Also, assuming you have standard seats, to get the bolt in type shoulder straps and suitable harness bar.