This second cam thingy - another daft question

[hueandcry71]

What do i have to do to get it to "kick in"??

Was doing just above 90 on the motorway this morning and was holding my breath for the big moment but nothing happened. I was in 4th or 5th and the revs were around 5000 rpm. How will i know when it does kick in??

[JeremyK]

It kicks in at 6250 rpm

[kevin ritson]

Spending Christmas in Germany, eh?

[NathanE]

You weren't revving it hard enough Get it above 6000 rpm or so and then you will know for sure.

I bet the first time it happens you will lift off

BTW: A motorway is probably not the best place to use 2nd cam anyway. It's better on the b-roads!

Edited by NathanE on Saturday 22 December 19:30

[hueandcry71]

JeremyK said:

It kicks in at 6250 rpm

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Thanks, i think i would have kittens if i drove a car at 6250 revs though.

[hueandcry71]

kevin ritson said:

Spending Christmas in Germany, eh?

For once the motorway was empty hence the speed i was doing.

[chrisstringer]

Get the damn thing revved. It'll go no further than the limiter, and as long as it's using pure Silkolene or similar for it's blood, you'll do no damage.

[Silent1]

hueandcry71 said:

JeremyK said:

It kicks in at 6250 rpm

Thanks, i think i would have kittens if i drove a car at 6250 revs though.

You what!! The car is destined to be revved, are you saying you've never gone above 5k rpm?

The amount of crap in your exhaust must be massive.

[21TonyK]

111R < 6250 rpm

111R > 6250 rpm

I really can't believe you've not gone above this already...? Warm it up properly and don't change until the light flashes!!

[riwiho]

Take your time with it though and make sure if you are going to do it that the conditions are ok. At this time of year with all manner of things on the road (oil, water, ice etc) take it easy.

6250rpm is amazing. when done in lower gears the kick is so so addictive!

[aussiebeano]

111R 2nd cam recipe -

1. Warm up engine
2. Find nice quiet road with lots of bends and occasional straights
3. Get in 2nd gear
4. Push throttle pedal until resistance felt from floor of car
5. Start grinning
6. Wait for 6200 rpm
7. At sudden surge of power, grin further. A whoop at this point may be helpful
8. Change gear just as red light flashes
9. Repeat as often as possible

[Furyous]

aussiebeano said:

111R 2nd cam recipe -
0.5. Send ecu to Lotus Sport for reflash
1. Warm up engine
2. Find nice quiet road with lots of bends and occasional straights
3. Get in 2nd gear
4. Push throttle pedal until resistance felt from floor of car
5. Start grinning
6. Wait for 6300rpm 5800 rpm
7. At sudden surge of power, grin further. A whoop at this point may be helpful
8. Change gear just as red light flashes
9. Repeat as often as possible

EFA.

[kevin ritson]

aussiebeano said:

111R 2nd cam recipe -

1. Warm up engine
2. Find nice quiet road with lots of bends and occasional straights
3. Get in 2nd gear
4. Push throttle pedal until resistance felt from floor of car
5. Start grinning
6. Wait for 6200 rpm
7. At 5,600 rpm notice approaching corner and swear profusely
8. Repeat for rest of run

[hueandcry71]

Silent1 said:

hueandcry71 said:

JeremyK said:

It kicks in at 6250 rpm

Thanks, i think i would have kittens if i drove a car at 6250 revs though.

You what!! The car is destined to be revved, are you saying you've never gone above 5k rpm?

The amount of crap in your exhaust must be massive.

The car hasnt done 500 miles yet and is still being run in so there wont be any crap in the exhaust.

[Saied]

It may be wise to forego using the 2nd cam until after the first oil change when the engine will be almost run in.

[kevin ritson]

From what I've heard the second cam should be used during the running-in procedure - check the handbook

[hueandcry71]

Thats whats great about this forum, the two posts above this one both say the opposite thing.

I cant see anything in the handbook that says the second cam should be used during the run in period but it does mention about keeping the revs down so i suppose the second cam should not be used.

With the short journeys that i undertake and the weather being the way it is it will prorobaly be after the first oil change before i get a chance to put my foot down again anyway.

[Tina K]

When I bought my 111R the dealership specifically said that the second cam should NOT be used until the car has had the aftersales service (the 1,000 mile jobby).

[Bada Bing!]

hueandcry71 said:

JeremyK said:

It kicks in at 6250 rpm

#

Thanks, i think i would have kittens if i drove a car at 6250 revs though.

Ah, now I know you're on the wind up.

[Boggy]

hueandcry71 said:

Thats whats great about this forum, the two posts above this one both say the opposite thing.

I cant see anything in the handbook that says the second cam should be used during the run in period but it does mention about keeping the revs down so i suppose the second cam should not be used.

With the short journeys that i undertake and the weather being the way it is it will prorobaly be after the first oil change before i get a chance to put my foot down again anyway.

When the car has completed 600 + miles the occasional use of the 2nd cam is fine as long as you don't use it for prolonged period. Speak to your supplying dealer who will clarify this, worth mentioning thou I'd wait for till it's been serviced at 1000 mile's till you start using it regularly

Stewart

Edited by Boggy on Monday 24th December 14:28