How do i get the edge in my 135R
How do i get the edge in my 135R
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notsogreedy

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642 posts

267 months

Wednesday 13th February 2008
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Hi guys,

Just want to pick your brains. Ive got a standard 135R and i want to do a few bits to it to get a bit extra out of it with out spending thousands on engine changes or rebuilds.

Any ideas for performance modifications for performance and handling??

Cheers

Foolish Dave

2,101 posts

287 months

Wednesday 13th February 2008
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I'd recommend Don Palmer.

S Works

10,166 posts

281 months

Wednesday 13th February 2008
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a) Get the car properly set-up at somewhere like Plans Motorsport or Guglielmi's
b) Get some advanced driver training in your own car (I highly recommend Andrew Walsh @ carlimits.com)
c) Upgrade the brakes (braided hoses, better pads)
d) Get Harnesses fitted
e) Get adjustable suspension fitted and the set-up redone

If you do all that progressively before considering power upgrades you'll learn a huge amount about the car.

I went from a standard S1 Elise, to a Sport 160, to an NA Honda'd S2 and I've realised that (despite having a HUGE amount of fun in the more powerful car), I'm more happy with a car with the power/weight of the Sport 160. The Honda'd car is going today, and I'm going to have a think about what to replace it with over the next month or so. A 135R is on the 'maybe' list. It's a fabulous car, enjoy it! thumbup

rfoster

1,482 posts

285 months

Wednesday 13th February 2008
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I have to say that the 135R is the sweetest of the Elise range - would suggest that you don't play around with power upgrades, it's just about perfect as it is! Echo S Work's comments on geo & brakes - Walshy day is a great idea.

VladTheDad

1,086 posts

248 months

Wednesday 13th February 2008
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notsogreedy

Original Poster:

642 posts

267 months

Wednesday 13th February 2008
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clap

hehe

Love it!!!

Yee haa!

590 posts

247 months

Wednesday 13th February 2008
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Harnesses have been the best upgrade to mine. Oh and getting it on track biggrin

nigelayres

22 posts

255 months

Wednesday 13th February 2008
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I have a 135R too and am doing a lot of track days. I would agree with the suggestions not to bother (at least yet) with any power upgrades. I would suggest:

  • Braided brake hoses - they do make a big difference
  • Upgraded brake pads - Pagid or SBS
  • Harnesses
  • Training
Not necessarily in that order. You should then also experiment with tyre pressures and make sure that your tyres aren't too old (VoE). You'll be surprised how much faster you can go with training and practice and no power increase.

crackthatoff

3,314 posts

244 months

Wednesday 13th February 2008
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S Works said:
a) Get the car properly set-up at somewhere like Plans Motorsport or Guglielmi's
b) Get some advanced driver training in your own car (I highly recommend Andrew Walsh @ carlimits.com)
c) Upgrade the brakes (braided hoses, better pads)
d) Get Harnesses fitted
e) Get adjustable suspension fitted and the set-up redone

If you do all that progressively before considering power upgrades you'll learn a huge amount about the car.

I went from a standard S1 Elise, to a Sport 160, to an NA Honda'd S2 and I've realised that (despite having a HUGE amount of fun in the more powerful car), I'm more happy with a car with the power/weight of the Sport 160. The Honda'd car is going today, and I'm going to have a think about what to replace it with over the next month or so. A 135R is on the 'maybe' list. It's a fabulous car, enjoy it! thumbup
they already have adjustables as standard wink get a larini club sport and a hurricaine, they sound awesome on my 135R

TIPPER

2,955 posts

250 months

Wednesday 13th February 2008
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Got to agree with S Works. Make the most of what you have by getting it set up properly.
Then as Tim says,
Brake hoses,
Pagid Rs 42 for regular track days or Mintex 1144 for occasional (I'd have killed a set after a third track day and about 4k road miles)track use.
Plant or Eliseparts Ali-belled discs when you kill what you have.
Nitron suspension. Talk to Randy at Hoffmans and Mountfort in Henley. He has developed his own valving for these over and above Nitrons own development.
Most rate the Nitrons as considerably better than the LSS Konis.
Finally if you feel you want more power then talk to Kiwirog at Sabre Heads (I think he developed the 135R head originally) or DVAPower.

S Works

10,166 posts

281 months

Wednesday 13th February 2008
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crackthatoff said:
S Works said:
a) Get the car properly set-up at somewhere like Plans Motorsport or Guglielmi's
b) Get some advanced driver training in your own car (I highly recommend Andrew Walsh @ carlimits.com)
c) Upgrade the brakes (braided hoses, better pads)
d) Get Harnesses fitted
e) Get adjustable suspension fitted and the set-up redone

If you do all that progressively before considering power upgrades you'll learn a huge amount about the car.

I went from a standard S1 Elise, to a Sport 160, to an NA Honda'd S2 and I've realised that (despite having a HUGE amount of fun in the more powerful car), I'm more happy with a car with the power/weight of the Sport 160. The Honda'd car is going today, and I'm going to have a think about what to replace it with over the next month or so. A 135R is on the 'maybe' list. It's a fabulous car, enjoy it! thumbup
they already have adjustables as standard wink get a larini club sport and a hurricaine, they sound awesome on my 135R
Er, no you don't. You have adjustable platforms but not dampers. Not the same thing dear boy.

Yee haa!

590 posts

247 months

Wednesday 13th February 2008
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yup, adjustable spring platforms and also adjustable anti roll bar. he's right about the sound tho, the clubsport sounds awsome

hbaumhardt

950 posts

310 months

Wednesday 13th February 2008
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If its for track try this http://wiki.seloc.org/a/S2_Track_Modifications (you'll already have a bunch of it on the 135R). If its for road, no idea.

crackthatoff

3,314 posts

244 months

Thursday 14th February 2008
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S Works said:
crackthatoff said:
S Works said:
a) Get the car properly set-up at somewhere like Plans Motorsport or Guglielmi's
b) Get some advanced driver training in your own car (I highly recommend Andrew Walsh @ carlimits.com)
c) Upgrade the brakes (braided hoses, better pads)
d) Get Harnesses fitted
e) Get adjustable suspension fitted and the set-up redone

If you do all that progressively before considering power upgrades you'll learn a huge amount about the car.

I went from a standard S1 Elise, to a Sport 160, to an NA Honda'd S2 and I've realised that (despite having a HUGE amount of fun in the more powerful car), I'm more happy with a car with the power/weight of the Sport 160. The Honda'd car is going today, and I'm going to have a think about what to replace it with over the next month or so. A 135R is on the 'maybe' list. It's a fabulous car, enjoy it! thumbup
they already have adjustables as standard wink get a larini club sport and a hurricaine, they sound awesome on my 135R
Er, no you don't. You have adjustable platforms but not dampers. Not the same thing dear boy.
clever bastard

gorrieman

84 posts

275 months

Thursday 14th February 2008
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TIPPER said:
Most rate the Nitrons as considerably better than the LSS Konis.
But the S2 LSS on the 135R are Bilsteins. Although, with only the platforms being adjustable, they are never going to be able to match what you can do with 2-way adjustables.

BTW, I'll 3rd the Clubsport...



Edited by gorrieman on Thursday 14th February 17:53

TIPPER

2,955 posts

250 months

Thursday 14th February 2008
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gorrieman said:
TIPPER said:
Most rate the Nitrons as considerably better than the LSS Konis.
But the S2 LSS on the 135R are Bilsteins.



Edited by gorrieman on Thursday 14th February 17:53
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