Shock horror Lotus win something!..........
Shock horror Lotus win something!..........
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Gallandro

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103 posts

281 months

Monday 7th July 2008
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Yep our Gav wins the GT4 Sports Light at Oschersleben on the weekend

ahead of the pesky X-Wing(Bows)!

see link...

//www.gt4cup.com/gallerypic.php?countkey=37&key=351&season=2008&event=3

Sorry not sure how to picture capture!

bandit

ariba

Boggy

4,603 posts

266 months

Monday 7th July 2008
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Gallandro said:
Yep our Gav wins the GT4 Sports Light at Oschersleben on the weekend

ahead of the pesky X-Wing(Bows)!

see link...

//www.gt4cup.com/gallerypic.php?countkey=37&key=351&season=2008&event=3

Sorry not sure how to picture capture!

bandit

ariba
Great news!

2 11 still a way to go but starting to make some head way

Boggy

Boggy

4,603 posts

266 months

Tuesday 8th July 2008
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Very odd that no one else commented when Lotus win isn't it? I kept wondering when they would whip the arse of that silly KTM

Boggy

Gallandro

Original Poster:

103 posts

281 months

Tuesday 8th July 2008
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Yep

It would have only been interesting to some if it had won with a Honda

in the back...........

whistle

Boggy

4,603 posts

266 months

Tuesday 8th July 2008
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Gallandro said:
Yep

It would have only been interesting to some if it had won with a Honda

in the back...........

whistle
Love itmusicwoohoocoffee

That Gavin is Mustard thou

Boggy

Boggy

4,603 posts

266 months

Tuesday 8th July 2008
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06/07/2008 Alex Buncombe wins 3rd GT4 race at Oschersleben
With race 3 of the GT4 Championship, the weekend at Oschersleben draws to a close. Alex Buncombe, racing in the nr 14 RJN Motorsport Nissan 350Z, managed to win 2 out of 3 of the races after narrowly missing pole in both qualifying sessions, an impressive start for a latecomer to the series. Eric de Doncker finished second in the nr 1 Motorsport98 Mustang FR500C, making a good comeback after his suspension gave way in race 2, knocking him out of the race. Jurgen Van Hover got his best result of the weekend, finishing 3rd in the nr 3 SpeedLover Aston Martin N24. In the Sports Light category, newcomer Gavan Kershaw in the nr 211 Lotus Sport Lotus 2-Eleven came first narrowly beating Christopher Haase the nr 101 Reiter Engineering KTM Xbow, with his team mate Catharina Felser third in the nr 100 Reiter Engineering KTM Xbow.

Alex Buncombe also takes away best Silver driver of the weekend, with Rick Pearson in the nr 23 Derek Palmer Nissan 350Z taking best Bronze.

Boggy

Gallandro

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103 posts

281 months

Tuesday 8th July 2008
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No ones biting.....

Maybe there has been a mass recall on Honda engines....

biglaugh

Boggy

4,603 posts

266 months

Tuesday 8th July 2008
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Gallandro said:
No ones biting.....

Maybe there has been a mass recall on Honda engines....

biglaugh
Well I've always said and I stand by my word the 2 11 with the same driver will beat a N/A Honda. Once they've finished with it I'm sure it will be a lot better even against the S/C Honda

Boggy

Scuffers

20,887 posts

305 months

Tuesday 8th July 2008
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what's the point?

pretty sad that that's the best they can do in all honestly, when you consider what the competition is.

Also, I don't belibe that the SL class as you put it is pointed seperatly from the rest of the field, the reason for the SL class was to give the heavy cars a break by putting the SL cars on treaded tyres. Let's not loose sight here that the Aston N24 etc. are all very much std production cars kitted out for racing, not low volume/kit cars.

Scuffers

20,887 posts

305 months

Tuesday 8th July 2008
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Boggy said:
Gallandro said:
No ones biting.....

Maybe there has been a mass recall on Honda engines....

biglaugh
Well I've always said and I stand by my word the 2 11 with the same driver will beat a N/A Honda. Once they've finished with it I'm sure it will be a lot better even against the S/C Honda

Boggy
your dreaming again, it's not even remotly close, as has already been shown several times so far this year.

Also worth pointing out that the 2-11 in GT4 was apparently running the 280 'upgrade' engine, still get's betten by the N24/Mustang/Nissan, to put this in context, 2007 Btircar 24H qually we put up a time 5 sec's ahead on the N24 with a BOG STD NA Honda engined car (with somewhat less than 280Bhp)

Boggy

4,603 posts

266 months

Tuesday 8th July 2008
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Scuffers said:
Boggy said:
Gallandro said:
No ones biting.....

Maybe there has been a mass recall on Honda engines....

biglaugh
Well I've always said and I stand by my word the 2 11 with the same driver will beat a N/A Honda. Once they've finished with it I'm sure it will be a lot better even against the S/C Honda

Boggy
your dreaming again, it's not even remotly close, as has already been shown several times so far this year.

Also worth pointing out that the 2-11 in GT4 was apparently running the 280 'upgrade' engine, still get's betten by the N24/Mustang/Nissan, to put this in context, 2007 Btircar 24H qually we put up a time 5 sec's ahead on the N24 with a BOG STD NA Honda engined car (with somewhat less than 280Bhp)
Crumb's Simon that is impressive

Was that in your Car or Randy's N/A Honda?

Boggy

Grinnders

1,558 posts

235 months

Tuesday 8th July 2008
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Isn't that X-bow just a 340R in drag ? as per VXR and S2 ?

coxy79

65 posts

253 months

Tuesday 8th July 2008
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Boggy said:
Scuffers said:
Boggy said:
Gallandro said:
No ones biting.....

Maybe there has been a mass recall on Honda engines....

biglaugh
Well I've always said and I stand by my word the 2 11 with the same driver will beat a N/A Honda. Once they've finished with it I'm sure it will be a lot better even against the S/C Honda

Boggy
your dreaming again, it's not even remotly close, as has already been shown several times so far this year.

Also worth pointing out that the 2-11 in GT4 was apparently running the 280 'upgrade' engine, still get's betten by the N24/Mustang/Nissan, to put this in context, 2007 Btircar 24H qually we put up a time 5 sec's ahead on the N24 with a BOG STD NA Honda engined car (with somewhat less than 280Bhp)
Crumb's Simon that is impressive

Was that in your Car or Randy's N/A Honda?

Boggy
It was Randy's green Exige running NA.




Edited by coxy79 on Tuesday 8th July 15:25


Edited by coxy79 on Tuesday 8th July 15:27

Boggy

4,603 posts

266 months

Tuesday 8th July 2008
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Ok,

That is a very special car thou to be fair, how much money has been spent on that and what was the weight? When you watch all of the other Honda'd car's in the Trophy even Andrew's their not much quicker than the 2 11

I stand by my words

Boggy

shangani

3,069 posts

268 months

Tuesday 8th July 2008
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Last year at spa, randy was so far ahead of the rest of the pack, including the 211's, that he could have stopped for a tea break and still won.

In the Lot race at Brands GP, randy drove an NA honda S1 elise (he sold his exige) and won by a big margin. It was a well prepped car, but actually less powerful than the 211's.

Same driver, the SC honda cars are the quickest out there at the moment, even when the power was reduced to keep within regulations. AFAIK randy was running his SC honda at less than 280 bhp to comply with regs. The 211 is a brilliant off the shelf track car, but it is not exactly the panacea of race performance yet.

Credit to Gav for his win. The man can drive, no doubt, but the fact that they have dropped out of GT3 to GT4 is somewhat telling.

Boggy

4,603 posts

266 months

Tuesday 8th July 2008
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shangani said:
Last year at spa, randy was so far ahead of the rest of the pack, including the 211's, that he could have stopped for a tea break and still won.

In the Lot race at Brands GP, randy drove an NA honda S1 elise (he sold his exige) and won by a big margin. It was a well prepped car, but actually less powerful than the 211's.

Same driver, the SC honda cars are the quickest out there at the moment, even when the power was reduced to keep within regulations. AFAIK randy was running his SC honda at less than 280 bhp to comply with regs. The 211 is a brilliant off the shelf track car, but it is not exactly the panacea of race performance yet.

Credit to Gav for his win. The man can drive, no doubt, but the fact that they have dropped out of GT3 to GT4 is somewhat telling.
Good point's

But Martin wasn't racing and Gavin crashed out, that mean's without an disrespect to the other's who drive 2 11's in the Trophy their wasn't really a competitive driver in a 2 11? So that doesn't stack up

I do agree that to beat Randy in a S/C Honda Lotus Sport are going to have to spend some proper time on the 2 11, they also have to realise that enthusiasts such as us are beginning to look elsewhere unless they can produce the good's so to speak. Once this Eagle is out their let's hope they get back to racing

Boggy

Scuffers

20,887 posts

305 months

Tuesday 8th July 2008
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Boggy said:
Ok,

That is a very special car thou to be fair, how much money has been spent on that and what was the weight? When you watch all of the other Honda'd car's in the Trophy even Andrew's their not much quicker than the 2 11

I stand by my words

Boggy
FFS you really are a fan-boy arn't you?

explain to me then how come Randy in a DIFFERENT car, with another bog std NA Honda won outright at BHGP ending up almost half a minute ahead of the rest of the field including 2-11's?

or how come Dave Porter in his over-weight, road going NA Honda within 6th tenths of the great F1 driver in a 2-11



Boggy

4,603 posts

266 months

Tuesday 8th July 2008
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Scuffers said:
Boggy said:
Ok,

That is a very special car thou to be fair, how much money has been spent on that and what was the weight? When you watch all of the other Honda'd car's in the Trophy even Andrew's their not much quicker than the 2 11

I stand by my words

Boggy
FFS you really are a fan-boy arn't you?

explain to me then how come Randy in a DIFFERENT car, with another bog std NA Honda won outright at BHGP ending up almost half a minute ahead of the rest of the field including 2-11's?

or how come Dave Porter in his over-weight, road going NA Honda within 6th tenths of the great F1 driver in a 2-11
I thought that was somebody else driving Martin's Car, Martin wasn't racing that day was he? Who crashed his Car

Boggy

Scuffers

20,887 posts

305 months

Tuesday 8th July 2008
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what's the point?

The blinkers are well and truly welded shut on this one.....

Boggy

4,603 posts

266 months

Tuesday 8th July 2008
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Scuffers said:
what's the point?

The blinkers are well and truly welded shut on this one.....
Don't worry Simon I am taking on board everything you've said, but your right I am a bit of a Lotus fan (Or is it fanny)eek

I couldn't afford to run either a 2 11 or a S/C Honda in the Trophy it's telephone number's when something goes wrong I'll have to stick to class A

Are you racing anymore this year?

Boggy