New Elise V8 conversion hot off the press !
New Elise V8 conversion hot off the press !
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piooly

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1,176 posts

255 months

stinkysteve

732 posts

227 months

Wednesday 17th September 2008
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Those look a bit mad.

4.2L superchraged Jag V8 in a Vx220! 450bhp. Mental!

Stu_00

1,529 posts

249 months

Wednesday 17th September 2008
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tasty !

kambites

71,599 posts

251 months

Wednesday 17th September 2008
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Hmm, no prices. I'm guessing it's not cheap.

bogie

17,100 posts

302 months

Wednesday 17th September 2008
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Id sooner have 400bhp from a 4cyl Honda or Audi and 100Kg less weight ! ...LOL ...but I guess who cares about 100Kg of extra weight slung out between a couple of bits of angle iron at the back smile

the company behind the Lotus Esthi tried to do this properly...and then the company doing it went bankrupt from development costs.......

10/10 for effort...Id like to see the finished conversion running around a track and road for some miles before trusting them with my cash though ....seems a bit like the Zcars jobbies - they look good on a show stand, never to be seen again actualy in running vehicles that customers have paid for wink

Altrezia

8,742 posts

241 months

Wednesday 17th September 2008
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I've always thought the VAG R32/36 engine with a Rotrex would work well. Lightish (not much more than a 20vT), and with a rotrex upwards of 500bhp. Same mounts as the 20v, except the gearbox, too.

Mark B

1,671 posts

295 months

Wednesday 17th September 2008
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Was this being done by Adrian Blythe some time ago, he took over where Lotus left it I believe. Great project, but from memory the car (VX derivative) looked a little odd when it was on show at the Clarkson car show in London a few years back. Great idea, but I think the increased length should have been matched to a width increase like the RTN/Lotus developed Malaysian racecar project which looked aewsome IMHO..


kambites

71,599 posts

251 months

Wednesday 17th September 2008
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Altrezia said:
I've always thought the VAG R32/36 engine with a Rotrex would work well. Lightish (not much more than a 20vT), and with a rotrex upwards of 500bhp. Same mounts as the 20v, except the gearbox, too.
I've often wondered if the VR6 engine would fit too. It's fairly compact (that's the whole idea) although I've a feeling it's pretty heavy - the older versions as used in the Corrado was definitely a lot heavier than the I4.

Edited by kambites on Wednesday 17th September 12:22

piooly

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1,176 posts

255 months

Wednesday 17th September 2008
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kambites said:
Hmm, no prices. I'm guessing it's not cheap.
£30K for the VX220 and thats with 450bhp. Wonder how it handles considering the extra lenght....

bogie

17,100 posts

302 months

Wednesday 17th September 2008
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if they really are able to offer V8 or V6 400-450bhp 950Kg sportscars essentially "new" (although based on a few year old VX200 donor) then one would think that people would be beating down their doors and there would be a fleet of test vehicles out there on road and track doing development work.

So far, this is the 2nd time ive seen this article in 3 years, but Ive not seen any happy customers yet.

Dont get me wrong - from the pics of the VX version, ...errr yes please, I will have one, for £30K I will take a 450bhp one of those with a Jag V8....if they could show me that it was a fully developed product, some road and track time, maybe even some crash testing...you know...basic stuff for a car wink

Scuffers

20,887 posts

304 months

Wednesday 17th September 2008
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This looks very much like the work of Simon Scleater...

if it is, then I would suggest that it's worth the time to take a look.

Simon is no monkey and IMHO was the guy I would credit the 300RR to...

Edited by Scuffers on Thursday 18th September 08:40

piooly

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1,176 posts

255 months

Wednesday 17th September 2008
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the VX20 with a V6 engine cane be built for around £20K inc donnor car. Thats not bad and with the vectra 2.8 V6 twin turbo engine, that think would fly.....

Stu_00

1,529 posts

249 months

Wednesday 17th September 2008
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Wonder if any Italian V8's would fit......

bogie

17,100 posts

302 months

Wednesday 17th September 2008
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Aston Martin 4.7L V8 aspirated would...and save the weight of the charged/intercooler rads etc smile

mmmm....an S2 Elise, wide body like the 300RR, an Aston V8 engine, tart up the interior ...now all that for under £40K and I will take one please wink

Scuffers

20,887 posts

304 months

Wednesday 17th September 2008
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bogie said:
Aston Martin 4.7L V8 aspirated would...and save the weight of the charged/intercooler rads etc smile

mmmm....an S2 Elise, wide body like the 300RR, an Aston V8 engine, tart up the interior ...now all that for under £40K and I will take one please wink
never going to happen at that money......

peter450

1,650 posts

263 months

Wednesday 17th September 2008
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Why would you want an Aston engine? the jag v8 is just as good and considerably less

bogie

17,100 posts

302 months

Wednesday 17th September 2008
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peter450 said:
Why would you want an Aston engine? the jag v8 is just as good and considerably less
because the Jag needs the blower (+25kg ish) to make the power you can have from the Aston aspirated - so its just a weight saving thing

of course getting a crate Aston engine is going to be a lot more expensive than a low miler Jag from a breakers smile

bogie

17,100 posts

302 months

Wednesday 17th September 2008
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Scuffers said:
bogie said:
Aston Martin 4.7L V8 aspirated would...and save the weight of the charged/intercooler rads etc smile

mmmm....an S2 Elise, wide body like the 300RR, an Aston V8 engine, tart up the interior ...now all that for under £40K and I will take one please wink
never going to happen at that money......
the pricing for the VX version on their website is £13K + vat + donor car + Jag engine and Getrag box + extras (interior trim, speedo pod etc)...so i guess a £10K S2 and you are at £25K ...the rest is engine and box...mmm...I would like to see one and the quality of finish .

bencollins

3,574 posts

235 months

Wednesday 17th September 2008
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piooly said:
the VX20 with a V6 engine cane be built for around £20K inc donnor car. Thats not bad and with the vectra 2.8 V6 twin turbo engine, that think would fly.....
I reckon this would be the best option, plus its a stock carryover, you can chip it if you want, tho maybe it is an iron block (or?)

bogie

17,100 posts

302 months

Wednesday 17th September 2008
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mmmm...hot off the press wink ...I thought Id seen this before...just forgotton how long ago it was ...onloy 4 years since it was news...still yet to see any customer cars...so maybe its not a such a good idea, or maybe the new Jag V8 options are to try and draw the punters in...

http://www.pistonheads.com/doc.asp?c=102&i=814...

http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/news/autoexpressnews/...

http://www.evo.co.uk/news/evonews/44463/320bhp_v6_...

oh well...excitement over...I wont be driving for quite a while anyway...a good job really, it may be another 4 years before the 2nd car gets made smile