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Hi All,
I drove an exige s for the first time today I was amazed at its pace and handling. If I buy it I will be 70 miles/day in it which I shall enjoy but this one had a pipercross cold air and sports exhaust and was if anything to loud for every day (sorry if i have my boring hat on) how much quiter is the standard? and what difference does the pipercross make. The supercharger noise was great and the good lady who hates my TVR T350c even liked it. Thumbs up!
I drove an exige s for the first time today I was amazed at its pace and handling. If I buy it I will be 70 miles/day in it which I shall enjoy but this one had a pipercross cold air and sports exhaust and was if anything to loud for every day (sorry if i have my boring hat on) how much quiter is the standard? and what difference does the pipercross make. The supercharger noise was great and the good lady who hates my TVR T350c even liked it. Thumbs up!
Stereo placement and starter button variances are down to the year of manufacture. Newer ones have stereo in the middle etc. Changing back to a stock exhaust will make a lot of difference. Most likely it has a Lotus Stage 3 which is very loud. if it was a 2Bular it would be more refined. The induction will also boost the noise quite a bit.
You could always swap back to stock, plenty of people selling stock exhausts on here for pennies.
Worth looking on exiges.com for ideas and tweaks that will boost power for little money. I've currently got an older NA Exige but seriously thinking about an S and tinkering with it.
You could always swap back to stock, plenty of people selling stock exhausts on here for pennies.
Worth looking on exiges.com for ideas and tweaks that will boost power for little money. I've currently got an older NA Exige but seriously thinking about an S and tinkering with it.
I specifically bought one with a standard exhaust. I don't particularly care for inline fours, even an offensively loud zorst on a boggo engine like the Toyota isn't mechanical music to my ears, but perhaps I've been spoilt by Porsche flat sixes and Rover / Yank V8s 
With a standard exhaust, IMO it's perfectly refined for a track biased car. I've done 400 miles in a weekend with my girlfriend without complaint, it's not noisy unless you're nailing it and the supercharger whine overpowers the engine.
I'm (as usual) hungry for more power, whether I can achieve this without cherry bomb exhausts and ending up marginal for trackdays is what I'm concerned about. Whilst a silly-loud exhaust can be a laugh for a sunny weekend toy, it's a right pain in the arse in an Exige for regular driving unless you take the roof off (why not buy an Elise in that case). Resonance in the cabin is especially unpleasant. But the standard exhaust doesn't do this, and is acceptably quiet.
Only downside is that the standard 'quiet' exhaust apparently weighs half the car's mass
and replacing it with something decent can save a good few kilos. Whether something 'decent' can be had at low noise levels is a different question - most people in the market for aftermarket zorsts tend to want more noise...
With a standard exhaust, IMO it's perfectly refined for a track biased car. I've done 400 miles in a weekend with my girlfriend without complaint, it's not noisy unless you're nailing it and the supercharger whine overpowers the engine.
I'm (as usual) hungry for more power, whether I can achieve this without cherry bomb exhausts and ending up marginal for trackdays is what I'm concerned about. Whilst a silly-loud exhaust can be a laugh for a sunny weekend toy, it's a right pain in the arse in an Exige for regular driving unless you take the roof off (why not buy an Elise in that case). Resonance in the cabin is especially unpleasant. But the standard exhaust doesn't do this, and is acceptably quiet.
Only downside is that the standard 'quiet' exhaust apparently weighs half the car's mass
and replacing it with something decent can save a good few kilos. Whether something 'decent' can be had at low noise levels is a different question - most people in the market for aftermarket zorsts tend to want more noise...hi i have i sc car that came with loud exhast and air filter it was very lound agree grat if your gonna take the roof off and bast around the roads
not good if you use it every day or on track .
my car did not feel right with the loud exhast and air filter throttle response was all over the place so i went back to the original air box and exhast which was a stage 2 car felt loads better if a few bhp down
they r ways of getting it a bit quieter in the cabin the plastic just behind the seats makes alot of noise and allso get some mats to go under the seats if it still is not quiet then you can try to stop the engine noise traviling down the chasie . the ao48 make alot of nosie but give you grate grip on track ps. sory about the spelling
not good if you use it every day or on track .
my car did not feel right with the loud exhast and air filter throttle response was all over the place so i went back to the original air box and exhast which was a stage 2 car felt loads better if a few bhp down
they r ways of getting it a bit quieter in the cabin the plastic just behind the seats makes alot of noise and allso get some mats to go under the seats if it still is not quiet then you can try to stop the engine noise traviling down the chasie . the ao48 make alot of nosie but give you grate grip on track ps. sory about the spelling
dave111s said:
hi i have i sc car that came with loud exhast and air filter it was very lound agree grat if your gonna take the roof off and bast around the roads
not good if you use it every day or on track .
my car did not feel right with the loud exhast and air filter throttle response was all over the place so i went back to the original air box and exhast which was a stage 2 car felt loads better if a few bhp down
they r ways of getting it a bit quieter in the cabin the plastic just behind the seats makes alot of noise and allso get some mats to go under the seats if it still is not quiet then you can try to stop the engine noise traviling down the chasie . the ao48 make alot of nosie but give you grate grip on track ps. sory about the spelling
been on the pop? not good if you use it every day or on track .
my car did not feel right with the loud exhast and air filter throttle response was all over the place so i went back to the original air box and exhast which was a stage 2 car felt loads better if a few bhp down
they r ways of getting it a bit quieter in the cabin the plastic just behind the seats makes alot of noise and allso get some mats to go under the seats if it still is not quiet then you can try to stop the engine noise traviling down the chasie . the ao48 make alot of nosie but give you grate grip on track ps. sory about the spelling
zebra said:
cyberface said:
I'm (as usual) hungry for more power,
Why?Zebra
Remember that I had a tuned VXT before the Exige, and I liked the midrange torque (obviously very different engines and the same behaviour won't be possible in the Exige, but a bit more torque wouldn't go amiss).
cyberface said:
zebra said:
cyberface said:
I'm (as usual) hungry for more power,
Why?Zebra
Remember that I had a tuned VXT before the Exige, and I liked the midrange torque (obviously very different engines and the same behaviour won't be possible in the Exige, but a bit more torque wouldn't go amiss).
zebra
Acceleration is fun and with forced induction cars there's usually more to come from the engine for low outlay. That's the only reason - more of a giggle on the road.
On track the limiting factor is already my bravery - I can handle the car just fine when it starts to slide but don't feel confident leaving braking as late as the car is capable of. I'd gain more time on track braking later than I would by increasing power (within reason) so don't think I believe that more power will make me quicker on track...
Why are you bothered that I may want more power? Lotus supplied the car with 218, 240 and 260 bhp engines, I bought second hand and the nicest car I found had the 218 bhp engine - no reason why I shouldn't upgrade it.
On track the limiting factor is already my bravery - I can handle the car just fine when it starts to slide but don't feel confident leaving braking as late as the car is capable of. I'd gain more time on track braking later than I would by increasing power (within reason) so don't think I believe that more power will make me quicker on track...
Why are you bothered that I may want more power? Lotus supplied the car with 218, 240 and 260 bhp engines, I bought second hand and the nicest car I found had the 218 bhp engine - no reason why I shouldn't upgrade it.
Chris Marriott said:
1 more question and a stupid one at that. How many miles do you get out of a tank with normal driving i.e motorway odd blast every now and then? I know there will be a million different answers but I just need to get an idea cost wise as I am coming out of a company car!
I generally have to visit the pumps every 200 miles in mine.Silent1 said:
You don't tune cars much do you?
Zebra
ETA _ loads of people talk about upgrades to improve 0-60 times that have litt;e or no affect _ what some people need is a driving course so they know how to get the most out of their lotus first. The place I ormally start is suspension and brakes.
Edited by zebra on Saturday 7th March 12:11
zebra said:
Silent1 said:
You don't tune cars much do you?
Zebra
ETA _ loads of people talk about upgrades to improve 0-60 times that have litt;e or no affect _ what some people need is a driving course so they know how to get the most out of their lotus first. The place I ormally start is suspension and brakes.
Edited by zebra on Saturday 7th March 12:11
Upgrading the brakes is all well and good for track use (and something I'm going to do) but really doesn't give much benefit on the road - as I said in another thread, running into brake fade on the road really shouldn't happen. Also, unless you're getting brake fade, upgraded brakes only add value on track if you're willing to brake later and harder. And that's a measure of confidence / bravery of the driver - something I have a specific problem with after a brake failure at Goodwood (brake disc snapped clean in half, 5 seconds earlier and I'd have been killed). On track I find that faster drivers make up time against me under braking, but I carry more corner speed on other sections.
Suspension is a can of worms I'm not going to open until I'm too fast for the standard kit on track. On road, irrelevant unless you want more comfort.
As to Silent1's MINI - it's a f
king monster and shows what you can do with a supercharged motor. Impressively quick, though I'm not considering spending nearly as much (all the engine telemetry would be overkill for me since I won't have time to monitor intake temps and EGTs etc. whilst lapping a circuit...) cyberface said:
Heh. Methinks Zebra was trying to catch me out with a SELOC-style 'you don't need more power, you need to go on a carlimits course' cliché.
Don't even know what that is mate.cyberface said:
Upgrading the brakes is all well and good for track use (and something I'm going to do) but really doesn't give much benefit on the road - as I said in another thread, running into brake fade on the road really shouldn't happen.
By the same stretch of imagination, I don't honestly believe you'll see much benefit in upgrades [short of a honda conversion] on the road.
cyberface said:
Suspension is a can of worms I'm not going to open until I'm too fast for the standard kit on track. On road, irrelevant unless you want more comfort.
Totally agree.Zebra
Edited by zebra on Sunday 8th March 20:40
Chris Marriott said:
200 Miles? how big are the tanks?
43l rings a bell? I can get <150 if I try but realistically about 200 from a tank (and thats in a NA car!)Just watch out for parking on a RH camber. Drains the tank away from the pump and will not start with less than about 1/4 tank
Chris Marriott said:
Hi All,
I drove an exige s for the first time today I was amazed at its pace and handling. If I buy it I will be 70 miles/day in it which I shall enjoy but this one had a pipercross cold air and sports exhaust and was if anything to loud for every day (sorry if i have my boring hat on) how much quiter is the standard? and what difference does the pipercross make. The supercharger noise was great and the good lady who hates my TVR T350c even liked it. Thumbs up!
I test drove N/A Exiges back to back and went for the one without the noisy bits for the same reason. I can drive at 80MPH and happily have a conversation with a passenger. The pipercross seemed the worst culprit for noise.I drove an exige s for the first time today I was amazed at its pace and handling. If I buy it I will be 70 miles/day in it which I shall enjoy but this one had a pipercross cold air and sports exhaust and was if anything to loud for every day (sorry if i have my boring hat on) how much quiter is the standard? and what difference does the pipercross make. The supercharger noise was great and the good lady who hates my TVR T350c even liked it. Thumbs up!
I then went on to drive the car round the M25 during rush hour for a month and a half in ALL weathers (yep, including the snow and still on A048's) and thoroughly enjoyed it.
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