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Yes indeed - In BOTH directions too.
Apparently first of this kind in the UK, and other local scamera spots soon to follow are:
Broadstone Way, Gravel Hill, Mountbatten Roundabout (Ringwood Road), Herbert Avenue and Blandford Road North
- rumour has it in the next few weeks.
Watch-out at Holes Bay, it is soooo easy to be over 30 there.
http://www.dorsetspeed.org.uk/news/sog.aspx
Apparently first of this kind in the UK, and other local scamera spots soon to follow are:
Broadstone Way, Gravel Hill, Mountbatten Roundabout (Ringwood Road), Herbert Avenue and Blandford Road North
- rumour has it in the next few weeks.
Watch-out at Holes Bay, it is soooo easy to be over 30 there.
http://www.dorsetspeed.org.uk/news/sog.aspx
It's all for OUR SAFETY of course.......
oh and Just fyi.... temp traffic lights were being setup AGAIN on sandbanks road at Lilliput this morning.
It always amazes me how stupid people can wait for the lights why blocking access to Brownsea View Avenue... so then I have to hold up the traffic behind me waiting to turn
oh and Just fyi.... temp traffic lights were being setup AGAIN on sandbanks road at Lilliput this morning.
It always amazes me how stupid people can wait for the lights why blocking access to Brownsea View Avenue... so then I have to hold up the traffic behind me waiting to turn
Edited by Grinnders on Wednesday 1st July 13:25
foolycooly said:
Have they been made high vis now that they have been converted to speed traps?
Yep, the complementary yellow back's are now in place. Now I'm not sure if they have put any warning signs up yet, I can only see 'traffic signal cameras' but no speed trap warnings unless they're further up the road. I think they need to be within a set distance.It's scary, when you drive a route so often with your drive-to-work subconcious doing the work. Must think!
Well, here is the list as I have just heard it is.
Please be advised that new 'traffic light' speed cameras (30mph) start from 1st July at the following junctions:
> Pen Hill Avenue, Poole
> Richmond Park Road j/w Bennett Road
> Wellington Road j/w Beechy Road Bournemouth Sbd
> Wellington Road j/w Beechy Road Nbd
> Holes Bay Road j/w Sterte Road Nbd (A350)
> Charminster Road j/w Richmond Park Road, Bournemouth (B3063)
> Holes Bay Road (A350)
> Wimborne Road j/w Dorchester Road Sbd (A35)
> Wimborne Road j/w Dorchester Road NWbd (A35)
> Wimborne Road, Darby's Lane Sbd (A35)
> Waterloo Road, Poole j/w Cabot Lane Sbd (A349)
> New Road West Parley-Sbd (A347)
> Wimborne Road, Bournemouth (Cemetery Junction) NEbd (A347)
> Slip Road Wessex Way, Castle Lane West-NEbd (A338)
See link below for details!!
http://www.dorsetsafetycameras.org.uk/index.php?op...
Anyone got a chain saw, or maybe some of that expanding foam
Please be advised that new 'traffic light' speed cameras (30mph) start from 1st July at the following junctions:
> Pen Hill Avenue, Poole
> Richmond Park Road j/w Bennett Road
> Wellington Road j/w Beechy Road Bournemouth Sbd
> Wellington Road j/w Beechy Road Nbd
> Holes Bay Road j/w Sterte Road Nbd (A350)
> Charminster Road j/w Richmond Park Road, Bournemouth (B3063)
> Holes Bay Road (A350)
> Wimborne Road j/w Dorchester Road Sbd (A35)
> Wimborne Road j/w Dorchester Road NWbd (A35)
> Wimborne Road, Darby's Lane Sbd (A35)
> Waterloo Road, Poole j/w Cabot Lane Sbd (A349)
> New Road West Parley-Sbd (A347)
> Wimborne Road, Bournemouth (Cemetery Junction) NEbd (A347)
> Slip Road Wessex Way, Castle Lane West-NEbd (A338)
See link below for details!!
http://www.dorsetsafetycameras.org.uk/index.php?op...
Anyone got a chain saw, or maybe some of that expanding foam
I'm going to put my flame proof jacket here and ask why you would want to do more than 30 through most of those junctions (when it's a 30 limit)?
Junctions are notoriously bad for red light jumping, or emergency services going against the flow that I think it's about as good a place as any for them IMHO.
Junctions are notoriously bad for red light jumping, or emergency services going against the flow that I think it's about as good a place as any for them IMHO.
Bing o said:
I'm going to put my flame proof jacket here and ask why you would want to do more than 30 through most of those junctions (when it's a 30 limit)?
Junctions are notoriously bad for red light jumping, or emergency services going against the flow that I think it's about as good a place as any for them IMHO.
Funnily enough, I agree with you. One of those rare occasions, where speeding really does increase the risk of accidentsJunctions are notoriously bad for red light jumping, or emergency services going against the flow that I think it's about as good a place as any for them IMHO.
Bing o said:
I'm going to put my flame proof jacket here and ask why you would want to do more than 30 through most of those junctions (when it's a 30 limit)?
I don't think this is about people travelling in excess of 30mph through a junction while there's free flowing traffic... This is to catch people who may accelerate through on Amber (to ensure they are not snapped breaking the "red" law) and catch them speeding instead as a consequence. kerchingLets look at the holes bay road lay out . Large well lit junction on to 2 lanes of open road with excelent vis and very little foot traffic. The limit has been artificially lowered across that whole stretch because the mobile scameras make a killing when you brow the rise over the railway. This whole transfer of red light cams to speed cams is a sneeky way around the scamera planning and placing rules. It is sneeky and underhand ( like ALL the activities of the local scamera partnership). It is also being used as a replacement for decent road policing and dissolving the entire road safety debate down to one issue, speed.
But you are free to believe speed kills (if it did, I would certainly be dead). Can I suggest if that is your belief, you are in the wrong car!
But you are free to believe speed kills (if it did, I would certainly be dead). Can I suggest if that is your belief, you are in the wrong car!
Edited by Gooby on Thursday 9th July 15:21
Not wishing to turn this into a discussion about speeding in general, however to say speed does not kill whilst taken in isolation is correct, taken as part of the whole is a major contributer.
As a massive generality, driving skills for the vast majority of people have declined over the nearly 30yrs I have been driving. A small minority seem to have improved. Those with less than adequate skills have more difficulty in driving well as their speed increases, plus the fact that the accidents that they do have then occur at greater speeds then result in more severe injuries and potentially death.
Slowing the idiots down is a good thing, however we all suffer as a result, as there is little that can be done to segregate the bad from the good. Yes I know more traffic cops would help with that, but lets not become so blinkered to think that money will be diverted from other areas of the police, just to provide for more cops on the road, so that the few that feel hard done by, by the camera's, can feel good about going out for a drive.
As a massive generality, driving skills for the vast majority of people have declined over the nearly 30yrs I have been driving. A small minority seem to have improved. Those with less than adequate skills have more difficulty in driving well as their speed increases, plus the fact that the accidents that they do have then occur at greater speeds then result in more severe injuries and potentially death.
Slowing the idiots down is a good thing, however we all suffer as a result, as there is little that can be done to segregate the bad from the good. Yes I know more traffic cops would help with that, but lets not become so blinkered to think that money will be diverted from other areas of the police, just to provide for more cops on the road, so that the few that feel hard done by, by the camera's, can feel good about going out for a drive.
Beachbum said:
Not wishing to turn this into a discussion about speeding in general, however to say speed does not kill whilst taken in isolation is correct, taken as part of the whole is a major contributer.
As a massive generality, driving skills for the vast majority of people have declined over the nearly 30yrs I have been driving. A small minority seem to have improved. Those with less than adequate skills have more difficulty in driving well as their speed increases, plus the fact that the accidents that they do have then occur at greater speeds then result in more severe injuries and potentially death.
Slowing the idiots down is a good thing, however we all suffer as a result, as there is little that can be done to segregate the bad from the good. Yes I know more traffic cops would help with that, but lets not become so blinkered to think that money will be diverted from other areas of the police, just to provide for more cops on the road, so that the few that feel hard done by, by the camera's, can feel good about going out for a drive.
without getting into a debate, why do you think driving skills has declined over the last 30 years?As a massive generality, driving skills for the vast majority of people have declined over the nearly 30yrs I have been driving. A small minority seem to have improved. Those with less than adequate skills have more difficulty in driving well as their speed increases, plus the fact that the accidents that they do have then occur at greater speeds then result in more severe injuries and potentially death.
Slowing the idiots down is a good thing, however we all suffer as a result, as there is little that can be done to segregate the bad from the good. Yes I know more traffic cops would help with that, but lets not become so blinkered to think that money will be diverted from other areas of the police, just to provide for more cops on the road, so that the few that feel hard done by, by the camera's, can feel good about going out for a drive.
cars do too much for you. abs, tc, etc etc
not allowed to drive at a half decent pace when it is safe to do so
not 100% concentration due to worrying about being caught rather than just being in the zone and "driving"
not being allowed to find out how a car responds to different circumstances
personally i believe its a combo of all 3 and give it 50 years then it will become like personal public transport, pay your money, get in and your taken there or monitored for the whole of your journey.
apart from track days and the odd bit of hooning early morning or late at night when was the last time any of you actually drove?
Edited by Andy G Bmth on Thursday 9th July 16:32
It is a slippery slope. A combination of the public believing that all speed is evil and anyone who speeds is a baby killing son of Satan. The introduction of road pricing and the associated tracking tech. This will be all the leverage the govt will require in order to track our movements a fine us directly from our bank accounts for any speed over 31 mph.
I may sound paranoid but I have seen the government specs that they have put out to tender with some of the largest consultancies for road pricing systems. This is not an "if" it will happen, the only options are to delay as long as possible
I may sound paranoid but I have seen the government specs that they have put out to tender with some of the largest consultancies for road pricing systems. This is not an "if" it will happen, the only options are to delay as long as possible
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