Disc & Pad recommendations - 111r

[elise2000]

Hi

I need to replace the discs and pads (front & rear) on my 04 111r.

It currently has drilled/grooved discs (not sure whether genuine lotus or not)

Just after some recommendations of types/brands really with estimates of prices if poss... The car is a daily driver, never tracked. (yet). Ideally I want a setup that's effective, but doesn't cost a fortune!

Thanks in advance

Andrew

[Beachbum]

I have a 54 111R and have the Lotus discs with EBC Yellow stuff pads. I always had issues with the original Lotus setup, however since moving to EBC Yellow's, there has been a significant improvement.
If memory serves, the Pads for all 4 corners are just over a ton

[Gooby]

I may not fit your budget but I have braided hoses, Pagid pads and alu bellied rotors and decent brake fluid. It seems to solve many of the "feel" problems on the OEM set up.

[siztenboots]

just go for normal disks, but change pads to Carbone Lorraine , RC5+ compound. Amazing feel and power

[jeweller]

Hi

I am having a new race 111r car built by www.track-club.com. They are next to Eliseparts in Kimbolton. Stephen is the MD there and he is a performance friction and padgid dealer (probably too extreme for road) and fits all of the Elise Parts options.

I raced on the Eliseparts Discs and Bells and found them fine. Mintex or Padgid pads are great for the road.

That said the standard brakes are off my car (the car has never turned a wheel it was collected from the Lotus Factory 2 weeks ago and the discs and pads removed)

If you want them give Stephen a buzz on 07590688211 he will do you a deal on them as they are no use to me!!!

Jeweller

[sdd]

Lots of options for the Elise R, if it's road use then you don't need to do anything other than standard Lotus stuff or Mintex 1144 which are fine for fast road, light track day use. Performance Friction are the best disc and pad combination available for the R but slightly too noisy for road use.

Last year we went to Bruntingthorpe and tested a number of disc (295mm) & pad combinations, we supply all of the combinations so we had no preference eitherway, margins similar. Hoses were always Mocal full stainless;

AP & Pagid
AP & Performance Friction 97
AP & Carbon Lorraine
Eliseparts & Pagid
Eliseparts & Performance Friction
Eliseparts & Mintex 1155
Eliseparts & Mintex 1166
AP & Mintex 1166
Performance Friction & Performance Friction 97
Performance Friction & Performance Friction 01

We did this on an Elise S1 and an Exige S, mainly focusing on the front and looking for something that gave the best stopping distance, feel and ability to modulate the pedal (S1). We didn't have time to test every possible combination but were happy that the above was a reasonable test. We swapped cars every 20 minutes and did full cool down laps of circa 3 miles in between changeovers.

The best combination was the wholly Performance Friction set up which actually used the Eliseparts AP bells. We then raced on Performance Friction 97 compound pads front and rear in the Elise Trophy. As some of the other Elise Trophy guys switched to PF some preferred the higher initial bite & torque of the 01 compound.

On the rear of the car (can't fit 295mm discs) so we ran Eliseparts own brand discs & bells with PF pads. I know Geary doesn't recommend these for racing but we used them on the front and rear of an S1 for a season and a half with no issues and a number of wins and podiums. This year will be part PF and part Eliseparts. I think that shortly Performance Friction will be available from Eliseparts as I know that Geary already uses the Performance Friction disc as part of his top brake option, the fully floating belly system (http://www.eliseparts.com/products/show/21/774/floating-bell-discs/) The set up that will be on this years S1 and also on the new Elise R in the series will be;

Front: Performance Friction Disc \ Eliseparts Bell \ Performance Friction 97 \ Motul RBF660 Fluid
Rear: Eliseparts Disc \ Eliseparts Bell \ Performance Friction 97 \ Motul RBF 660 Fluid

The front set up will cost around £600 for 2 discs, 2 bells, new bolt & aluminium spacer kit, PF 01 pads. The rear set up will cost around £350 for 2 discs, 2 bells, new bolt & aluminium spacer kit, PF97 pads

I've got a new set of OEM discs and pads that are £150 to the first buyer, if you want Mintex pads these are £49.95 for fronts and £54.95 for rears. e-mail me via [e-mail] if anyone here wants these.

Stephen

www.track-club.com

[randy]

You obviously didn't try the CL pads as the results would have been different... we should have a chat about them.

[piers1]

My 111R has standard Lotus discs with EBC yellows, which I like...but it does appear to be a taste thing. I hear the Carbon Lorraine (sp) pads are great but leave lots of mess on your wheels, is this true? Will need to change mine soon too....

[Brummmie]

RC5 plus are very clean, its a new compound designed to be user friendly.
Check my website.