Paddle Shifter

[roninexige]

So there may soon be a paddle shifter for the Elise/Exige.......


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yrzQ3_M7JfM&fea...

[cyberface]

Looks like a couple of hydraulic / electric solenoids and some electronics to remotely activate the cables to the gearbox. So far so good... the Manual Gearbox option is for a Tremec box - are all manual boxes much of a muchness, and would be easy to adapt to the Toyota box?

It just strikes me as if it's really that easy - and the only inputs a cable operated manual gearbox require are two forward-back cable attachments, then a remotely solenoid-driven solution would have been on the market for years, surely?

I guess any minute degree of misalignment would result in the solenoid action *not* engaging a gear, when a human operator could wiggle the stick a bit to slightly change the relevant cable movement... but if the shift is only determined by a couple of cables then you should be able to remove the cables, connect the hydraulic rams (as shown in the video) to the inputs and know *exactly* how far you need to move to engage the gears, it's got to be deterministic inside the box, no?

I haven't pulled a gearbox to bits and I'm no engineer so I'm guessing here, hopefully I'll learn something

[Scuffers]

roninexige said:

So there may soon be a paddle shifter for the Elise/Exige.......


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yrzQ3_M7JfM&fea...

that's so last-year!

http://www.vimeo.com/5999276

[Boggy]

Scuffers said:

roninexige said:

So there may soon be a paddle shifter for the Elise/Exige.......


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yrzQ3_M7JfM&fea...

that's so last-year!

http://www.vimeo.com/5999276

That is fantastic Simon, Top Work

Boggy

[fergus]

Scuffers said:

roninexige said:

So there may soon be a paddle shifter for the Elise/Exige.......


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yrzQ3_M7JfM&fea...

that's so last-year!

http://www.vimeo.com/5999276

Geartronics? Is that a true closed loop system? Can you stack downshifts? Nice.

[Scuffers]

fergus said:

Scuffers said:

roninexige said:

So there may soon be a paddle shifter for the Elise/Exige.......


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yrzQ3_M7JfM&fea...

that's so last-year!

http://www.vimeo.com/5999276

Geartronics? Is that a true closed loop system? Can you stack downshifts? Nice.

Yes,
Yes,
Yes.

HTH

[roninexige]

Yeah but Scuffie what does your setup sell for ? This setup is under $3K and will fit behind the seats or in the boot.....
Dude tell me more...

[fergus]

roninexige said:

Yeah but Scuffie what does your setup sell for ? This setup is under $3K and will fit behind the seats or in the boot.....
Dude tell me more...

http://www.geartronics.co.uk/

http://www.geartronics.co.uk/paddleshift.htm = £2800+VAT. The 'GCU' (gear control unit) Neil has developed runs full closed loop, and is significantly more advanced than a lot of the cheaper units, which may either wreck the dogs on your gearbox, or assist in a mis shift with the associated consequences for your engine....

The pectel GCU is the daddy, but is approaching £20k (think WRC cars...)

[roninexige]

Nice air shifter but it won't work on a Toyota box..... All Toyotas are dual cable, sorry but that air shifter setup is so last decade and will not work with the Toyota gearbox..

[fergus]

roninexige said:

Nice air shifter but it won't work on a Toyota box..... All Toyotas are dual cable, sorry but that air shifter setup is so last decade and will not work with the Toyota gearbox..

? If it's so last decade, why is it being used on F3000 and other full race engines and very expensive sequential gearboxes?

It's only designed to work with sequential boxes, not H pattern ones. I'm not aware of any system that can run closed loop on an H pattern box?

[roninexige]

fergus said:

roninexige said:

Nice air shifter but it won't work on a Toyota box..... All Toyotas are dual cable, sorry but that air shifter setup is so last decade and will not work with the Toyota gearbox..

? If it's so last decade, why is it being used on F3000 and other full race engines and very expensive sequential gearboxes?

It's only designed to work with sequential boxes, not H pattern ones. I'm not aware of any system that can run closed loop on an H pattern box?

Who gives a crap what other cars with "SEQUENTIAL BOXES" it's being used on..?
It won't work on the Toyota gearbox in the S2 Elise/Exige and that's the point of the thread title..

Dude read the first post....hello..... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUbi1epN0-c&fea...

http://www.mastershift.com/

Edited by roninexige on Thursday 4th February 19:07

Edited by roninexige on Thursday 4th February 19:10

[Scuffers]

with respect, who would spend money on a solution for a box that's a pile of ste?

How many have you gone though before discarding it?

[Neil Wallace]

Indeed

BTW, big brother is watching, and Pectel are not the "daddies".

http://www.geartronics.co.uk/img/ps2as.jpg

[Scuffers]

Evening Neil!

[roninexige]

Scuffers said:

with respect, who would spend money on a solution for a box that's a pile of ste?

How many have you gone though before discarding it?

Three but who's counting ? The new Toyota E153 box can take a beating and it uses the same linkage as the stock C64...
An upgrade to paddles would make a nice difference, I might even get out of second gear it the twisties...

[roninexige]

I sould have all the bits this Friday to start work on the sequential shifter instal...